Land For sale — Metro Grocery Store

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Gosse B. Bruinsma

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Nov 29, 2021, 4:11:13 PM11/29/21
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All, Please note that the land now occupied by Metro is for sale and destined to be developed as high rise mixed use. The Metro’s lease expires 2023. Our next closest grocery store would likely be Loblaws. See link:
https://www.collierscanada.com/en-ca/properties/residential-development-site-with-holding-income/can-50-beechwood-avenue-ottawa-ontario-canada/can2008364


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Susan Rodocanachi

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Nov 29, 2021, 4:40:47 PM11/29/21
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That's awful news. Urban planning in this city is abysmal. Traffic is already terrible on Beechwood - I can't imagine what it will be like once the development at the old army base is complete, let alone another one on Beechwood. We  need a neighbourhood grocery store more than we need another high-density highrise.

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Margot Silver

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Nov 29, 2021, 5:38:34 PM11/29/21
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Hi Gosse,

Thank you again for getting this message out in our community.

I have lived in New Edinburgh for 31 years and it is very sad and depressing to see our neighbourhood and so many of the other downtown neighbourhoods being spoiled by developments like this.
Our city council has had no vision and understanding of what downtown neighbourhoods are all about. It is frustrating to see the character, fabric and soul of New Edinburgh being eroded.

We have a 4 plex in Montreal and it is really inspiring to see all the cool projects going on in downtown neighbourhoods......'green laneways', community gardens, sharing of plants, cool and interesting parks and a significant increase in bike paths.....
A really different vision about what downtown neighbourhoods are all about!!!!!

I was wondering if anything can be done to stop this. ( the scale of this development)
Is there is a group being formed?

In solidarity,

Margot Silver Dumas and Jacques Dumas
147 Crichton Street

Richard J. Riopelle, Dr.

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Nov 29, 2021, 6:05:19 PM11/29/21
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Margot’s comments resonate highly
Why have we not seen the community input in this regard to our QOL????
Please!!!!!!
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Richard J. Riopelle, Dr.

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Nov 29, 2021, 6:53:37 PM11/29/21
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You have nailed it Susan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rick


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Alex Binkley

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Nov 30, 2021, 6:43:13 AM11/30/21
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For starters, communicate your disapproval of turning the Metro into another highrise that will further plug up Beechwood to our local councilor and CC the mayor. We want the grocery store and not another eye sore.

CindyP

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Nov 30, 2021, 8:57:17 AM11/30/21
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The issue is broad -- the new Official Plan, with its emphasis on intensification, favours development over neighbourhoods (despite loose language about respecting neighbourhood character).  That said, there are three near-term activities that residents can leverage to try to achieve an outcome that will serve to create/reinforce our 15-minute neighbourhood.  1) Work will begin soon (hopefully) on a Secondary Plan for the Beechwood Corridor, to be lead by the City in consultation with residents and community organizations; 2) By-law reviews will begin in the next year to reflect the strategic policies established in the Official Plan at the neighbourhood level; and 3) there will be a municipal election next year where residents can seek to change the current developer-focused leadership at City Hall.

Katherine Hall

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Nov 30, 2021, 9:03:03 AM11/30/21
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If we follow the Rideau street lead, we could at least ensure to have a grocery on the ground floor.

Christopher Straka

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Nov 30, 2021, 11:30:46 AM11/30/21
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I believe that the Metro store and the other smaller food sellers on Beechwood are extremely important elements of our community and are essential elements of a “15 minute neighbourhood” (https://engage.ottawa.ca/the-new-official-plan/news_feed/15-minute-neighbourhoods).  If the City’s planning staff and politicians are to be successful in their planning policy goals, a grocery store must be maintained on Beechwood Avenue.  


However, I know of no progressive urban thinker who would consider the existing built form in the block between Beechwood, Barrette, Charlevoix and Loyer as an exemplary contributor to a model urban environment.  A single-use single-story commercial building, isolated from the sidewalk by surface parking  punctuated with a gas station is more likely to be found in the sub-urban neighbourhoods of Anytown, Canada - not the great urban neighbourhoods in Montreal and other world cities that we aspire to be more like. 


We do have some good urban grocery store precedents in Ottawa that offer us examples to improve upon.  Consider the Rideau Street Loblaws with its doors opening directly onto the sidewalk and parking hidden below grade.  Also of note is the public terrace off the wide sidewalk outside the Farm Boy on Metcalfe Street.  It will be interesting to see how the grocery store is reintegrated into the multi-use building under construction on Rideau  Street near King Edward.  


Regardless of one’s opinion of land use densification and diversification in our urban neighbourhoods, one can not deny that (as the only constant) change is inevitable.  Our collective challenge is to manage that change for the better, both for of those who live in the neighbourhood as well as those who invest in it.  


It is important to note that the sale of land does not necessarily result in a change of use or a change in density.  Given the relatively recent renovation of the grocery store, Metro may very well want to continue leasing the building and property as it is from a new landowner.  


A fundamentalist opposition to all densification and diversification of urban land use along Beechwood Avenue may hinder opportunities to improve less desirable existing conditions.  A less militant, more diplomatic approach, will have better outcomes over the long term.  Let’s start with an expression of interest in collaborating with the landowner and tenant to find common ground, then work toward creating mutual benefits.  If the notion of dialogue with the landowner and tenant is unfathomable, one sure way to prevent change is to buy the land.  


Christopher Straka

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Paula Thompson

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Nov 30, 2021, 5:53:07 PM11/30/21
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Thanks Chris for the thoughtful post. I agree the critical  issue is reaching out to ensure that a grocery store remains part of the plans. I expect it must, as you suggest. And if we end up with a more interesting space AND a grocery store it could be a win for the community. As you say, that isn’t hard to do better than the eye sore we have today.

 I do like the old mural on the side of metro that references the historic watering hole that once was there, the Claude Hotel I think. My grandfather (lived on MacKay at Noel) was apparently a regular there and when he died his comrades gathered outside the pub as the hearse drove by with their beers raised in toast to their friend on his way to his final resting place in Notre Dame Cemetery. I never met my grandfather, but the mural makes me think of him every time I go to Metro, which is kind of wonderful. 



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Alex Binkley

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Dec 1, 2021, 5:55:54 AM12/1/21
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While the space occupied by the Metro might be better used, let's have a public discussion about it. Metro put a lot of money into that store in the last few years and worked during the pandemic to keep the shelves stocked. 

Susan Rodocanachi

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Dec 1, 2021, 6:15:00 AM12/1/21
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Thanks Alex for your defense of our local grocery store - it's irksome and unhelpful to read posts criticizing its appearance and the fact that it has a parking lot (!). In the almost 40 years that I've lived in New Edinburgh, I have always appreciated having my grocery store a short walk away from home and losing it would be a significant loss to the quality of life in this neighbourhood.

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