XBMC Q (for Nero or anyone else)

[Joe Born]

Couple questions about the XBMC skin for the LINK:

1. Any thoughts about what would be involved in upgrading the version of XBMC to something newer?  We've upgraded the LINK to Ubuntu 9.10 (image to be released soon) and curious to get your thoughts on what would be involved updating XBMC

2. the power button shuts down gnome, but in the XBMC it no longer (with new 9.10 ubuntu image) shuts down XBMC, but brings up the shut down screen (with options to shut down, information, etc) thus requiring users to pick up the keyboard, etc.  Thoughts on how to fix this?

Joe

[Ugo Riboni]

> Couple questions about the XBMC skin for the LINK:
>
> 1. Any thoughts about what would be involved in upgrading the version of
> XBMC to something newer?  We've upgraded the LINK to Ubuntu 9.10 (image to
> be released soon) and curious to get your thoughts on what would be involved
> updating XBMC

I suppose it's just a matter of pulling the newer version of xmbc from
their repo,
fixing any conflict with our patches and then rebuilding the app and package it.
If I still have around the xmbc build env on my laptop, I don't expect
it to take long.
Otherwise it will need to be set up again, it may take a bit longer.

> 2. the power button shuts down gnome, but in the XBMC it no longer (with new
> 9.10 ubuntu image) shuts down XBMC, but brings up the shut down screen (with
> options to shut down, information, etc) thus requiring users to pick up the
> keyboard, etc.  Thoughts on how to fix this?

I suppose we can patch it to just do the shutdown action immediately
as before, like
we patched other things. But I don't have the code in front of me
right now so can't be sure.
--
nero

[Joe Born]

I suppose it's just a matter of pulling the newer version of xmbc from
their repo,
fixing any conflict with our patches and then rebuilding the app and package it.
If I still have around the xmbc build env on my laptop, I don't expect
it to take long.
Otherwise it will need to be set up again, it may take a bit longer.

So there were patches to XBMC itself, not just the skin?

I suppose we can patch it to just do the shutdown action immediately

as before, like
we patched other things.

I'm still using XBMC from our repo, it just doesn't shutdown on 9.10, I guess its some conflict with 9.10?

Joe 

[Anthony DeRobertis]

FYI, xbmc has a git repo, so if we're going to patch xbmc, lets do it
the proper git way this time... Should make pulling updates much easier.

[Jeremy Coleman]

Have you looked at the rapier skin? It is very clean and IMO faster
than the mediastream skin. If you are going to stick with mediastream
for consistency, then I recommend looking at the update/mod version
(by JezzX?) which is optimized to run smoother than the original.

On 11/17/09, Anthony DeRobertis <google...@derobert.net> wrote:
> FYI, xbmc has a git repo, so if we're going to patch xbmc, lets do it
> the proper git way this time... Should make pulling updates much easier.
>

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[mammlouk]

There were a few patches to the actual XBMC code, I think the biggest
chunk was the stuff for switching between XBMC and other apps. I have
been running XBMC from the xbmc-svn PPA without issue (well at least
until I hit a package conflict with the latest build). One thing to
watch out for is the video rendering mode settings. For some reason
when the renderer was set to auto, XBMC was choosing VDPAU on me which
led to a crash everytime I tried to watch a video, setting it to GLSL
cleared things right up.

As far as the direct shutdown goes it should be a quick patch to the
skin to directly call the shutdown just as Ugo mentioned.

On a side note, I'll be eagerly awaiting the new 9.10 based image.
What I would really like to see is a tool that allows easy backup/
restore/migration of a user's home directory. Something simple built
with python/gtk maybe that you could pop in the USB drive, run the
app, specify the device to pull from and the image to push into, then
the app would just copy your home directory from the thumb drive into
the img file. Then you could just write the new img to the thumb
drive and be all set. I don't know how other users are handling
things, but my primary solution to keep the LINK OS fitting on the
thumb drive and still have expandability is to use my external 1TB
drive which holds my movies as a place to also store any large sets of
hidden application data and then symlink from the thumb drive. It
keeps me from having to reconfigure applications to look for data in a
non standard location. Anyway, it's just a thought.

[Ugo Riboni]

> So there were patches to XBMC itself, not just the skin?

Yeah, there were a few patches to xmbc itself, mainly to change some
defaults (since we could not install/change configs from debian
packages, IIRC) and add some commands to (un)fullscreen from scripts.
I think the app was also recompiled with some options different from
what is in the default packages.

I can try to go and check the repo to see what the changes were
exactly if more info is needed.

>> I suppose we can patch it to just do the shutdown action immediately
>> as before, like we patched other things.
>
> I'm still using XBMC from our repo, it just doesn't shutdown on 9.10, I
> guess its some conflict with 9.10?

I don't think I touched anything that was related to the shutdown (in
the app), so it sounds like your theory may be right.

Cheers,
--
nero

[Ugo Riboni]

> FYI, xbmc has a git repo, so if we're going to patch xbmc, lets do it
> the proper git way this time... Should make pulling updates much easier.

Didn't know that. Where is it located ?
But anyway, yeah, I agree with you. I much prefer git to svn anyway.

Cheers,
--
nero

[Anthony DeRobertis]

http://xbmc.org/download/ says

git clone git://xbmc.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/xbmc/xbmc

[Joe Born]

>> 2. the power button shuts down gnome, but in the XBMC it no longer (with new
>> 9.10 ubuntu image) shuts down XBMC, but brings up the shut down screen (with
>> options to shut down, information, etc) thus requiring users to pick up the
>> keyboard, etc.  Thoughts on how to fix this?
>
> I suppose we can patch it to just do the shutdown action immediately
> as before, like
> we patched other things. But I don't have the code in front of me
> right now so can't be sure.

Here's where I am with this:
http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?p=446457&posted=1

a bit stuck, I can't easily figure out what the name of the power
switch is to map it to some new functionality, I guess our code is in
the neuros git repo and I should look there, although I would assume
that the xml files I've got are exactly what's in the git repo right?
if so, there's seemingly nothing in there about the power button that
I can see.