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Ant

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Mar 16, 2009, 12:59:37 AM3/16/09
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Since I had to dump Debian's IceApe a few weeks ago, I had to install
SeaMonkey (SM) v1.1.4 from
seamonkey-1.1.14.en-US.linux-i686.installer.tar.gz into
/home/Programs/seamonkey/ ... Mostly everything works, but I noticed
saving files cause SM to freeze hard. CPU usage is in used from SM.

I have to kill its three processes through KDE v3.5.10's terminal since
regular kills weren't enough. At first, I thought it was the old
SessionSaver extension but I was still able to reproduce the freeze. I

I tried to use strace but it seems to stop when SM loads a Web page and
doesn't output anymore.

Any ideas? Thank you in advance. :)
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Philip Chee

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Mar 16, 2009, 12:39:05 PM3/16/09
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On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 21:59:37 -0700, Ant wrote:
> Since I had to dump Debian's IceApe a few weeks ago, I had to install
> SeaMonkey (SM) v1.1.4 from
> seamonkey-1.1.14.en-US.linux-i686.installer.tar.gz into
> /home/Programs/seamonkey/ ... Mostly everything works, but I noticed
> saving files cause SM to freeze hard. CPU usage is in used from SM.
>
> I have to kill its three processes through KDE v3.5.10's terminal since
> regular kills weren't enough. At first, I thought it was the old
> SessionSaver extension but I was still able to reproduce the freeze. I
>
> I tried to use strace but it seems to stop when SM loads a Web page and
> doesn't output anymore.
>
> Any ideas? Thank you in advance. :)

Use the -debug command line switch.

seamonkey -debug

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Bill Davidsen

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Mar 16, 2009, 3:26:43 PM3/16/09
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Ant wrote:
> Since I had to dump Debian's IceApe a few weeks ago, I had to install
> SeaMonkey (SM) v1.1.4 from
> seamonkey-1.1.14.en-US.linux-i686.installer.tar.gz into
> /home/Programs/seamonkey/ ... Mostly everything works, but I noticed
> saving files cause SM to freeze hard. CPU usage is in used from SM.
>
> I have to kill its three processes through KDE v3.5.10's terminal since
> regular kills weren't enough. At first, I thought it was the old
> SessionSaver extension but I was still able to reproduce the freeze. I
>
> I tried to use strace but it seems to stop when SM loads a Web page and
> doesn't output anymore.
>
> Any ideas? Thank you in advance. :)

You might try creating a brand new profile with no extensions or add-ons, and
see if the behavior continues.I will say that I would use 'top' in a window and
see if SM grows over time and behaves badly when it hits 450-550MB in size.

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clay

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Mar 16, 2009, 6:05:55 PM3/16/09
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Ant wrote:
> Since I had to dump Debian's IceApe a few weeks ago, I had to install
> SeaMonkey (SM) v1.1.4 from
> seamonkey-1.1.14.en-US.linux-i686.installer.tar.gz into
> /home/Programs/seamonkey/ ... Mostly everything works, but I noticed
> saving files cause SM to freeze hard. CPU usage is in used from SM.
>
> I have to kill its three processes through KDE v3.5.10's terminal since
> regular kills weren't enough. At first, I thought it was the old
> SessionSaver extension but I was still able to reproduce the freeze. I
>
> I tried to use strace but it seems to stop when SM loads a Web page and
> doesn't output anymore.
>
> Any ideas? Thank you in advance. :)

I don't know from SeaMonkey but I installed Firefox in Ubuntu once and
it did exactly the same thing.
Yahoo maps blew up the version from the repos so I installed a 'newer'
release.
Popups like download manager took forever to popup then hung forever
when downloading.
Turned out, I had grabbed a beta from the FTP site.
Installed the release version and everything worked fine.

Phillip Pi

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Mar 16, 2009, 8:39:18 PM3/16/09
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On 3/16/2009 12:26 PM PT, Bill Davidsen wrote:

> You might try creating a brand new profile with no extensions or
> add-ons, and see if the behavior continues.I will say that I would use
> 'top' in a window and see if SM grows over time and behaves badly when
> it hits 450-550MB in size.

I did watch top when saving my files. No CPU usage and memory usage
changed. I will try again later.

I will also try a new profile. How do I make a new profile? I don't have
a KDE's menu shortcut for its Profile Manager like in Windows XP Pro.
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Phillip Pi

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Mar 16, 2009, 8:42:05 PM3/16/09
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On 3/16/2009 9:39 AM PT, Philip Chee wrote:

>> Since I had to dump Debian's IceApe a few weeks ago, I had to install
>> SeaMonkey (SM) v1.1.4 from
>> seamonkey-1.1.14.en-US.linux-i686.installer.tar.gz into
>> /home/Programs/seamonkey/ ... Mostly everything works, but I noticed
>> saving files cause SM to freeze hard. CPU usage is in used from SM.
>>
>> I have to kill its three processes through KDE v3.5.10's terminal since
>> regular kills weren't enough. At first, I thought it was the old
>> SessionSaver extension but I was still able to reproduce the freeze. I
>>
>> I tried to use strace but it seems to stop when SM loads a Web page and
>> doesn't output anymore.
>>
>> Any ideas? Thank you in advance. :)
>
> Use the -debug command line switch.
>
> seamonkey -debug

I will try that later on my local machine (don't want to do it over
SSH). Weird that I didn't see -debug listed:
$ ./seamonkey --help
Usage: ./seamonkey-bin [ options ... ] [URL]
where options include:

X11 options
--display=DISPLAY X display to use
--sync Make X calls synchronous
--no-xshm Don't use X shared memory extension
--xim-preedit=STYLE
--xim-status=STYLE
--g-fatal-warnings Make all warnings fatal

SeaMonkey options
-height <value> Set height of startup window to <value>.
-h or -help Print this message.
-installer Start with 4.x migration window.
-width <value> Set width of startup window to <value>.
-v or -version Print ./seamonkey-bin version.
-CreateProfile <profile> Create <profile>.
-P <profile> Start with <profile>.
-ProfileWizard Start with profile wizard.
-ProfileManager Start with profile manager.
-SelectProfile Start with profile selection dialog.
-UILocale <locale> Start with <locale> resources
as UI Locale.
-contentLocale <locale> Start with <locale> resources
as content Locale.
-remote <command> Execute <command> in an already running
SeaMonkey process. For more info, see:

http://www.mozilla.org/unix/remote.html

-splash Enable splash screen.


Also, how can I output the debug into a log file if they are shown on
screen?

Ant

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Mar 17, 2009, 12:14:05 AM3/17/09
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On 3/16/2009 9:39 AM PT, Philip Chee typed:

> Use the -debug command line switch.
>
> seamonkey -debug

$ ./seamonkey --debug
./run-mozilla.sh -g ./seamonkey-bin
MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=.
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=.:./plugins:/usr/local/lib/mre/mre-1.1.14
DISPLAY=:0.0
DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH=.:/usr/local/lib/mre/mre-1.1.14
LIBRARY_PATH=.:./components:/usr/local/lib/mre/mre-1.1.14
SHLIB_PATH=.:/usr/local/lib/mre/mre-1.1.14
LIBPATH=.:/usr/local/lib/mre/mre-1.1.14
ADDON_PATH=.
MOZ_PROGRAM=./seamonkey-bin
MOZ_TOOLKIT=
moz_debug=1
moz_debugger=
/usr/bin/gdb ./seamonkey-bin -x /tmp/mozargs.wodAef
GNU gdb 6.8-debian
Copyright (C) 2008 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later
<http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. Type "show
copying"
and "show warranty" for details.
This GDB was configured as "i486-linux-gnu"...
(no debugging symbols found)
(gdb)


Now what? I don't know how to use this gdb thing. :(
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Ant

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Mar 17, 2009, 12:16:52 AM3/17/09
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On 3/16/2009 3:05 PM PT, clay typed:

> I don't know from SeaMonkey but I installed Firefox in Ubuntu once and
> it did exactly the same thing.
> Yahoo maps blew up the version from the repos so I installed a 'newer'
> release.
> Popups like download manager took forever to popup then hung forever
> when downloading.
> Turned out, I had grabbed a beta from the FTP site.
> Installed the release version and everything worked fine.

The one I got is: 14679286 2008-12-05 01:26
seamonkey-1.1.14.en-US.linux-i686.installer.tar.gz

I hope that's the right one to use for Debian.
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clay

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Mar 17, 2009, 12:04:32 PM3/17/09
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Install the debug package maybe? I dunno...

clay

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Mar 17, 2009, 12:11:07 PM3/17/09
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Ant wrote:
> On 3/16/2009 3:05 PM PT, clay typed:
>
>> I don't know from SeaMonkey but I installed Firefox in Ubuntu once and
>> it did exactly the same thing.
>> Yahoo maps blew up the version from the repos so I installed a 'newer'
>> release.
>> Popups like download manager took forever to popup then hung forever
>> when downloading.
>> Turned out, I had grabbed a beta from the FTP site.
>> Installed the release version and everything worked fine.
>
> The one I got is: 14679286 2008-12-05 01:26
> seamonkey-1.1.14.en-US.linux-i686.installer.tar.gz
>
> I hope that's the right one to use for Debian.

I don't know which would be correct for Debian. Might search the Debian
list.
There are versions up to 2.0 on the FTP site.
<ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.0a3/seamonkey-2.0a3.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2>

Phillip Pi

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Mar 17, 2009, 2:09:35 PM3/17/09
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Which one? I am not familiar with this one.

Phillip Pi

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Mar 17, 2009, 2:10:39 PM3/17/09
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On 3/17/2009 9:11 AM PT, clay wrote:

>> The one I got is: 14679286 2008-12-05 01:26
>> seamonkey-1.1.14.en-US.linux-i686.installer.tar.gz
>>
>> I hope that's the right one to use for Debian.
>
> I don't know which would be correct for Debian. Might search the Debian
> list.
> There are versions up to 2.0 on the FTP site.
> <ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.0a3/seamonkey-2.0a3.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2>

Just remember, Debian dropped IceApe (basically SeaMonkey) so I have to
use Mozilla's SeaMonkey. :(

clay

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Mar 17, 2009, 4:34:55 PM3/17/09
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oops...
If you install from source the debug package wouldn't be of much use.
apps in the repositories (is that what they call them in Debian?) have
other packages available for install. debug, help files, etc.
I only ran Debian for a couple hours so I'm not up on the jargon.

Probably, you'd have to compile with debugging enabled.

clay

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Mar 17, 2009, 4:40:10 PM3/17/09
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Phillip Pi wrote:
> On 3/17/2009 9:11 AM PT, clay wrote:
>
>>> The one I got is: 14679286 2008-12-05 01:26
>>> seamonkey-1.1.14.en-US.linux-i686.installer.tar.gz
>>>
>>> I hope that's the right one to use for Debian.
>>
>> I don't know which would be correct for Debian. Might search the
>> Debian list.
>> There are versions up to 2.0 on the FTP site.
>> <ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.0a3/seamonkey-2.0a3.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2>
>
>
> Just remember, Debian dropped IceApe (basically SeaMonkey) so I have to
> use Mozilla's SeaMonkey. :(

You really should visit linux.debian.user and sign up to their mailing
list. Lots of activity there.
Probably this has already been solved by others.

Jens Hatlak

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Mar 17, 2009, 6:46:41 PM3/17/09
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Ant wrote:
> (no debugging symbols found)
> (gdb)
>
> Now what? I don't know how to use this gdb thing. :(

I don't know much more there either but the next step should be entering
"run". Then, for crash bugs, the next command after that would be "bt"
for getting a backtrace. Since in your case SM freezes I don't know
whether killing SM will give you similar results but you may try
pressing Ctrl+C in the console window instead of killing SM by other
means. Anyway, as the "(no debugging symbols found)" indicates, your SM
is stripped so you probably won't get meaningful results anyway. You'd
have to use a version compiled with debugging support but I'm not sure
whether those are available or you need to compile yourself. If you
installed SM using packages for your distribution it may be worth a try
to search for a matching package providing debugging symbols.

There are some instructions on [1] but I guess they don't apply to SM1.x.

[1]
<https://developer.mozilla.org/En/How_to_get_a_stacktrace_for_a_bug_report>

HTH

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Phillip Pi

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Mar 17, 2009, 9:15:30 PM3/17/09
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On 3/17/2009 3:46 PM PT, Jens Hatlak wrote:

> Ant wrote:
>> (no debugging symbols found)
>> (gdb)
>>
>> Now what? I don't know how to use this gdb thing. :(
>
> I don't know much more there either but the next step should be entering
> "run". Then, for crash bugs, the next command after that would be "bt"
> for getting a backtrace. Since in your case SM freezes I don't know
> whether killing SM will give you similar results but you may try
> pressing Ctrl+C in the console window instead of killing SM by other
> means. Anyway, as the "(no debugging symbols found)" indicates, your SM
> is stripped so you probably won't get meaningful results anyway. You'd
> have to use a version compiled with debugging support but I'm not sure
> whether those are available or you need to compile yourself. If you
> installed SM using packages for your distribution it may be worth a try
> to search for a matching package providing debugging symbols.

Thanks. Yeah, I can't find any Debian packages for SeaMonkey and Debian
dropped IceApe that is another name for SeaMonkey.

Oh well. I think my next plan is to try a new profile. Does anyone know
how to launch that under Linux like in Windows?

Phillip Pi

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Mar 17, 2009, 9:16:13 PM3/17/09
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On 3/17/2009 1:40 PM PT, clay wrote:

>> Just remember, Debian dropped IceApe (basically SeaMonkey) so I have
>> to use Mozilla's SeaMonkey. :(
>
> You really should visit linux.debian.user and sign up to their mailing
> list. Lots of activity there.
> Probably this has already been solved by others.

I doubt it. Thwy only handled IceApe, not SeaMonkey. They willprobably
ask Mozilla guys. :)

Ant

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Mar 18, 2009, 1:31:38 AM3/18/09
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Weird!! I no longer have freeze ups after saving something. I didn't
change anything! Maybe apt-get update and upgrade changed something
recently. I will follow-up if it happens again. Computers are strange!
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