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Ant

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Feb 28, 2009, 1:14:55 AM2/28/09
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Hello.

I noticed Debian's Lenny doesn't have IceApe packages. What happened to
it? I use this Web browser suite. Is there a Debian package of it? :(

Thank you in advance. :)
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Robert Kaiser

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Feb 28, 2009, 5:29:09 AM2/28/09
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Ant wrote:
> I noticed Debian's Lenny doesn't have IceApe packages. What happened to
> it? I use this Web browser suite. Is there a Debian package of it? :(

You need to ask Debian. IceApe is a Debian project that ships a
substantially modified version of our software, and we neither have
control over it nor want control over it. Only the Debian people can
know what's up with that package.
The real SeaMonkey is available for download at
http://www.seamonkey-projct.org/

Robert Kaiser

Ant

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Feb 28, 2009, 9:26:44 AM2/28/09
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On 2/28/2009 2:29 AM PT, Robert Kaiser typed:

I got the answer:

Subject: Plans for Iceape
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 12:00:25 +0100
From: Mike Hommey
To: pkg-mozilla...@lists.alioth.debian.org
CC: Moritz Muehlenhoff, RingoBell

Hi all,

As it took some time for me to decide the fate of Iceape, and mails
about it started gathering, here are my current plans for Iceape.

As I can't commit to follow the seamonkey 1.1 branch mainly because
of time constraints, except if some people stand up to give a hand,
which has happened despite several calls for help, Iceape 1.1.x, which
wasn't shipped in Lenny because we couldn't commit to support it for
security, won't be restored to unstable.

My current plan, which might take some time, is to first get xulrunner
1.9.1 in experimental, and then get iceape 2.0 alphas, or betas built
against it. Progression to unstable will depend on how xulrunner
reverse dependencies can deal with 1.9.1.

Cheers,

Mike

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So, that means v1.1 for Debian is currently dead.

I tried to install SeaMonkey (SM) from mozilla.org, but am having
problems getting my plugins and Adblock Plus v1.0.1 (from apt-get
command; works fine in IceWeasel, but not showing up in SM).

Are there any documents on how to migrate over and make them work SM
v1.1.14 correctly? :(

Thank you in advance. :)
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Jens Hatlak

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Feb 28, 2009, 9:50:04 AM2/28/09
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Ant wrote:
> I tried to install SeaMonkey (SM) from mozilla.org, but am having
> problems getting my plugins and Adblock Plus v1.0.1 (from apt-get
> command; works fine in IceWeasel, but not showing up in SM).

Concerning plugins: Locate IceWeasel's plugins directory (e.g. find /usr
-type d -name plugins) and copy its contents preserving symlinks (e.g.
cp -p /usr/share/iceweasel/plugins/* /path/to/seamonkey/plugins).

Concerning Adblock Plus: I wonder where you got v1.0.1 from. Lenny
contains v0.7.5.5 (cf. <http://packages.debian.org/lenny/adblock-plus>).
Anyway, that package won't help you installing the extension in the
original SeaMonkey. Simply install it from
<https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/1865>.

HTH

Jens

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Ant

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Feb 28, 2009, 10:13:54 AM2/28/09
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On 2/28/2009 6:50 AM PT, Jens Hatlak typed:

>> I tried to install SeaMonkey (SM) from mozilla.org, but am having
>> problems getting my plugins and Adblock Plus v1.0.1 (from apt-get
>> command; works fine in IceWeasel, but not showing up in SM).
>
> Concerning plugins: Locate IceWeasel's plugins directory (e.g. find /usr
> -type d -name plugins) and copy its contents preserving symlinks (e.g.
> cp -p /usr/share/iceweasel/plugins/* /path/to/seamonkey/plugins).

$ ls -all /usr/share/iceweasel/plugins/
ls: cannot access /usr/share/iceweasel/plugins/: No such file or directory

$ cd /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/
$ ls -all
total 8
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2009-02-25 08:38 .
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 2009-02-27 22:15 ..
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 39 2009-02-25 08:38 flashplugin-alternative.so
-> /etc/alternatives/iceweasel-flashplugin
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 44 2008-11-05 07:16 libtotem-basic-plugin.so ->
../../totem/default/libtotem-basic-plugin.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 45 2008-11-05 07:16 libtotem-basic-plugin.xpt
-> ../../totem/default/libtotem-basic-plugin.xpt
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 46 2008-11-05 07:16 libtotem-complex-plugin.so
-> ../../totem/default/libtotem-complex-plugin.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 47 2008-11-05 07:16 libtotem-complex-plugin.xpt
-> ../../totem/default/libtotem-complex-plugin.xpt
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 42 2008-11-05 07:16 libtotem-gmp-plugin.so ->
../../totem/default/libtotem-gmp-plugin.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 43 2008-11-05 07:16 libtotem-gmp-plugin.xpt ->
../../totem/default/libtotem-gmp-plugin.xpt
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 44 2008-11-05 07:16 libtotem-mully-plugin.so ->
../../totem/default/libtotem-mully-plugin.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 45 2008-11-05 07:16 libtotem-mully-plugin.xpt
-> ../../totem/default/libtotem-mully-plugin.xpt
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 50 2008-11-05 07:16
libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so ->
../../totem/default/libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 51 2008-11-05 07:16
libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.xpt ->
../../totem/default/libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.xpt

I did the same for IceApe's old plugins, and that worked. So now it
looks like:

# ls -all
total 980
drwxr-xr-x 2 ant ant 4096 2009-02-28 07:06 .
drwxr-xr-x 12 ant ant 4096 2009-02-27 22:47 ..
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 44 2009-02-28 07:06 libflashplayer.so ->
/usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 63 2009-02-28 06:59 libjavaplugin_oji.so ->
/home/Programs/jre1.6.0_12/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ant ant 20764 2008-12-05 00:43 libnullplugin.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 ant ant 4008 2009-02-27 23:22
librhythmbox-itms-detection-plugin.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 ant ant 283216 2009-02-27 23:27 mplayerplug-in-qt.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 ant ant 1067 2009-02-27 23:27 mplayerplug-in-qt.xpt
-rw-r--r-- 1 ant ant 285072 2009-02-27 23:27 mplayerplug-in.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 ant ant 283600 2009-02-27 23:27 mplayerplug-in-wmp.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 ant ant 1067 2009-02-27 23:27 mplayerplug-in-wmp.xpt
-rw-r--r-- 1 ant ant 1067 2009-02-27 23:27 mplayerplug-in.xpt
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ant ant 62662 2009-02-27 23:27 nphelix.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ant ant 5086 2009-02-27 23:27 nphelix.xpt

Thanks! :)


> Concerning Adblock Plus: I wonder where you got v1.0.1 from. Lenny
> contains v0.7.5.5 (cf. <http://packages.debian.org/lenny/adblock-plus>).
> Anyway, that package won't help you installing the extension in the
> original SeaMonkey. Simply install it from
> <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/1865>.

Whoops, I meant unstable (always get confused with the codenames):
http://packages.debian.org/sid/adblock-plus

$ apt-cache show adblock-plus
Package: adblock-plus
Priority: optional
Section: web
Installed-Size: 1520
Maintainer: Dmitry E. Oboukhov <un...@debian.org>
Architecture: all
Version: 1.0.1-1
Depends: iceweasel | iceape-browser
Conflicts: mozilla-firefox-adblock
Filename: pool/main/a/adblock-plus/adblock-plus_1.0.1-1_all.deb
Size: 320250
MD5sum: 946ced55b30af246c65d55a8bf28689b
SHA1: 535c90b3497f336f337c79b61b9708e06d5e4fb3
SHA256: 26547cd3f5943e113c982595ec665210c89fbec8c535ddc4d1b3ceeee4022ba0
Description: Advertisement filter extension for the Iceweasel/Iceape
The Adblock-plus extension adds to Iceweasel and Iceape browsers
an ability to filter unwanted objects on webpages. Filters can
be specified using wildcards in order to block e.g. all images
or JavaScript files from specific servers or directories.
.
Adblock-plus is the development of the Adblock extension.
Homepage: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865
Tag: interface::x11, role::plugin, suite::mozilla, use::filtering,
works-with::text, works-with-format::html, x11::application

Package: adblock-plus
Priority: optional
Section: web
Installed-Size: 1172
Maintainer: Dmitry E. Oboukhov <un...@debian.org>
Architecture: all
Version: 0.7.5.5-3
Depends: iceweasel | iceape
Conflicts: mozilla-firefox-adblock
Filename: pool/main/a/adblock-plus/adblock-plus_0.7.5.5-3_all.deb
Size: 251464
MD5sum: 2cb6193be0f815dd78be6516d73729ba
SHA1: 02eac7f81e131e61c6ae1a4d687b62e8799a09be
SHA256: 8410da4601c45bb4e40d4c9e34adbb77cdd36b7e0ab493c8db787aba4e98ac9a
Description: Advertisement filter extension for the Iceweasel/Iceape
The Adblock-plus extension adds to Iceweasel and Iceape browsers
an ability to filter unwanted objects on webpages. Filters can
be specified using wildcards in order to block e.g. all images
or JavaScript files from specific servers or directories.
.
Adblock-plus is the development of the Adblock extension.
Homepage: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865
Tag: interface::x11, role::plugin, suite::mozilla, use::filtering,
works-with::text, works-with-format::html, x11::application


Is it me or I cannot find SM's icon in the installed directory?
seamonkey-installer's README said:

To hook up SeaMonkey complete with icon to the GNOME Panel, follow these
steps:

1. Click the GNOME Main Menu button, open the Panel menu, and then open
the Add to Panel submenu and choose Launcher.

2. Right-click the icon for SeaMonkey on the Panel and enter the
following command:
directory_name./seamonkey

where directory_name is the name of the directory you downloaded
SeaMonkey to. For example, the default directory that SeaMonkey suggests
is /usr/local/seamonkey.

3. Type in a name for the icon, and type in a comment if you wish.

4. Click the icon button and type in the following as the icon's location:

directory_name/icons/mozicon50.xpm

where directory name is the directory where you installed SeaMonkey. For
example, the default directory is /usr/local/seamonkey/icons/mozicon50.xpm.

--

$ locate mozicon50.xpm
/usr/share/iceweasel/chrome/icons/default/mozicon50.xpm
/usr/share/iceweasel/icons/mozicon50.xpm
/usr/share/xulrunner-1.9/icons/mozicon50.xpm

--

$ pwd
/home/Programs/seamonkey1.1.14
$ ls -all
total 5292
drwxr-xr-x 12 ant ant 4096 2009-02-27 22:47 .
drwxr-sr-x 7 root staff 4096 2009-02-27 22:48 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 ant ant 0 2009-02-27 22:47 .autoreg
drwxr-xr-x 3 ant ant 4096 2009-02-28 07:06 chrome
drwxr-xr-x 2 ant ant 4096 2009-02-28 07:06 components
drwxr-xr-x 7 ant ant 4096 2009-02-27 22:47 defaults
drwxr-xr-x 2 ant ant 4096 2009-02-27 22:47 dictionaries
drwxr-xr-x 2 ant ant 4096 2009-02-27 22:47 greprefs
drwxr-xr-x 2 ant ant 4096 2009-02-27 22:47 init.d
-rw-r--r-- 1 ant ant 41878 2009-02-27 22:47 install.log
drwxr-xr-x 2 ant ant 4096 2009-02-27 22:47 isp
-rw-r--r-- 1 ant ant 476 2008-12-05 00:43 libfreebl3.chk
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ant ant 246796 2008-12-05 00:43 libfreebl3.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ant ant 10104 2008-12-05 00:43 libgfxpsshar.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ant ant 149012 2008-12-05 00:43 libgkgfx.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ant ant 141648 2008-12-05 00:43 libgtkembedmoz.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ant ant 14704 2008-12-05 00:43 libgtkxtbin.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ant ant 103784 2008-12-05 00:43 libjsj.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ant ant 166500 2008-12-05 00:43 libldap50.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ant ant 720364 2008-12-05 00:43 libmozjs.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ant ant 70772 2008-12-05 00:43 libmozz.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ant ant 517096 2008-12-05 00:43 libmsgbaseutil.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ant ant 206648 2008-12-05 00:43 libnspr4.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ant ant 461212 2008-12-05 00:43 libnss3.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ant ant 288492 2008-12-05 00:43 libnssckbi.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ant ant 16240 2008-12-05 00:43 libplc4.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ant ant 9380 2008-12-05 00:43 libplds4.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ant ant 14816 2008-12-05 00:43 libprldap50.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ant ant 141472 2008-12-05 00:43 libsmime3.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 ant ant 476 2008-12-05 00:43 libsoftokn3.chk
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ant ant 332232 2008-12-05 00:43 libsoftokn3.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ant ant 167132 2008-12-05 00:43 libssl3.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ant ant 115316 2008-12-05 00:43 libxpcom_compat.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ant ant 922236 2008-12-05 00:43 libxpcom_core.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ant ant 10108 2008-12-05 00:43 libxpcom.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ant ant 12704 2008-12-05 00:43 libxpistub.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ant ant 11488 2008-12-05 00:43 mozilla-xremote-client
drwxr-xr-x 2 ant ant 4096 2009-02-28 07:06 plugins
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ant ant 15336 2008-12-05 00:43 regchrome
-rw-r--r-- 1 ant ant 335 2009-02-27 22:47 registry
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ant ant 35444 2008-12-05 00:43 regxpcom
drwxr-xr-x 6 ant ant 4096 2009-02-27 22:47 res
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ant ant 10492 2008-12-05 00:43 run-mozilla.sh
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ant ant 8432 2008-12-05 00:43 seamonkey
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ant ant 232828 2008-12-05 00:43 seamonkey-bin
drwxr-xr-x 2 ant ant 4096 2009-02-27 22:47 searchplugins
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ant ant 27100 2008-12-05 00:43 xpicleanup


What am I missing or is the README incorrect?
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Jens Hatlak

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Ant wrote:
> Is it me or I cannot find SM's icon in the installed directory?
> seamonkey-installer's README said:
> (...)

> 4. Click the icon button and type in the following as the icon's location:
>
> directory_name/icons/mozicon50.xpm
>
> where directory name is the directory where you installed SeaMonkey. For
> example, the default directory is /usr/local/seamonkey/icons/mozicon50.xpm.
> (...)

> What am I missing or is the README incorrect?

I only looked at the German version but I think the README is wrong. I
found icons under chrome/icons/default, default*.xpm and seamonkey.png.
Robert, care to fix it / file a bug?

Ant

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Feb 28, 2009, 6:13:05 PM2/28/09
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>> Is it me or I cannot find SM's icon in the installed directory?
>> seamonkey-installer's README said:
>> (...)
>> 4. Click the icon button and type in the following as the icon's
>> location:
>>
>> directory_name/icons/mozicon50.xpm
>>
>> where directory name is the directory where you installed SeaMonkey.
>> For example, the default directory is
>> /usr/local/seamonkey/icons/mozicon50.xpm.
>> (...)
>> What am I missing or is the README incorrect?
>
> I only looked at the German version but I think the README is wrong. I
> found icons under chrome/icons/default, default*.xpm and seamonkey.png.
> Robert, care to fix it / file a bug?

Thank you. Robert, let's us know if we need to file it.
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Robert Kaiser

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Jens Hatlak wrote:
> I only looked at the German version but I think the README is wrong. I
> found icons under chrome/icons/default, default*.xpm and seamonkey.png.
> Robert, care to fix it / file a bug?

i can't, as I don't even know what and where the exact problem is. Care
to file it yourself and mention that exactly?

Robert Kaiser

Ant

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On 3/1/2009 3:49 AM PT, Robert Kaiser typed:

I submitted it: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=480823 ... :)
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NoOp

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Mar 2, 2009, 2:25:16 PM3/2/09
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On 03/01/2009 09:33 AM, Ant wrote:
> On 3/1/2009 3:49 AM PT, Robert Kaiser typed:
>
>> Jens Hatlak wrote:
>>> I only looked at the German version but I think the README is wrong. I
>>> found icons under chrome/icons/default, default*.xpm and seamonkey.png.
>>> Robert, care to fix it / file a bug?
>>
>> i can't, as I don't even know what and where the exact problem is. Care
>> to file it yourself and mention that exactly?
>
> I submitted it: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=480823 ... :)

The location has always been wrong for SM 1.x. See my install
instructions in
Message-ID: <JPudnfu9iNY-W9_U...@mozilla.org>

Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:16:34 -0800
From: NoOp <gl...@sbcglobal.net.invalid>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.19)
Gecko/20081204 NOT Firefox/3.0 SeaMonkey/1.1.14
MIME-Version: 1.0
Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey
Subject: Re: SM Themes and Ubuntu

<quote>
> Add a SeaMonkey icon to the panel and menu:
>
> 1. Click Applications|Internet|right-click on your existing SeaMonkey
> icon and select 'Add this launcher to panel'. That will put a new
> SeaMonkey icon on your top panel. Right-click that new panel icon and
> click on 'Properties'.
>
> 2. Click the 'Browse' button to the right of 'Command'. Scoll down until
> you find your 'seamonkey' folder, double-click that. Scroll down until
> you see 'seamonkey', double-click that. You will now see
> '/home/<yourusername>/seamonkey/seamonkey' in the Command box. Yes, we
> could have just entered '/home/<yourusername>/seamonkey/seamonkey'
> instead, but I wanted you to try the browse feature so that you are
> familiar with where your new SeaMonkey is installed.
>
> 3. Now let's put a proper icon in place. To the left of Type/Name etc.,
> you will see the icon button. In your case it should already show a
> SeaMonkey logo, in other circumstances it will show 'Choose icon' or
> show a Gnome launcher icon (springboard type icon). Click it.
>
> In the icon box (left of Browse) enter:
>
> ~/seamonkey/chrome/icons/default
>
> That will bring up the standard SeaMonkey icons for that version. Click
> on default.xpm (or seamonkey.png if you prefer) and click OK. Close the
> Launcher Properties - click Close.
>
> You will now be able to launch SM 1.1.14 from the SeaMonkey panel icon.
> Your old Ubuntu menu item is still in Applications|Internet|SeaMonkey.
> Use the new version for awhile until you are comfortable that it is
> working the way you want, then post back and let us know when you are
> ready to remove the Ubuntu version.
>
> BTW: Ignore the incorrect Gnome instructions in the release notes
> (http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey1.1.13/installation#linux)
> - they are incorrect. There is _no_ mozicon50.xpm for SeaMonkey linux -
> only for Thunderbird, Firefox, sunbird, xulrunner, and komposer. Further
> they point you to a nonexistent icon directory - there is no
> /usr/local/seamonkey/icons/mozicon50.xpm - never has been in 1.x that
> I'm aware of. The icons for a default install are in
> <installdirectorypath>/chrome/icons/default.

README instructions for SM 2.x show the correct location:

> 4. Click the icon button and type in the following as the icon's location:
>

> directory_name/chrome/icons/default/default.xpm
>
> where directory_name is the directory where you installed SeaMonkey.


> For example, the default directory is

> /usr/local/seamonkey/chrome/icons/default/default.xpm.

Jens Hatlak

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NoOp wrote:
> README instructions for SM 2.x show the correct location:
>
>> 4. Click the icon button and type in the following as the icon's location:
>>
>> directory_name/chrome/icons/default/default.xpm
>>
>> where directory_name is the directory where you installed SeaMonkey.
>> For example, the default directory is
>> /usr/local/seamonkey/chrome/icons/default/default.xpm.

The location is right but the filename is not. ;-) I added a comment to
the bug.

Greetings,

NoOp

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On 03/02/2009 03:21 PM, Jens Hatlak wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
>> README instructions for SM 2.x show the correct location:
>>
>>> 4. Click the icon button and type in the following as the icon's location:
>>>
>>> directory_name/chrome/icons/default/default.xpm
>>>
>>> where directory_name is the directory where you installed SeaMonkey.
>>> For example, the default directory is
>>> /usr/local/seamonkey/chrome/icons/default/default.xpm.
>
> The location is right but the filename is not. ;-) I added a comment to
> the bug.

Ah... your are right; default.xpm in SM 1.x and default.png (or
seamonkey.png) in SM 2.x - thanks & good catch :-)

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