2003-09-02 - Summary of mozilla.org staff meeting

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Gervase Markham

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Sep 8, 2003, 12:59:56 PM9/8/03
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2003-09-02 - Summary of mozilla.org staff meeting
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Present: gerv, myk, asa, blizzard, chofmann.

*1.5 Final update*

- No disastrous feedback from the beta release
- 5 blocker bugs remain
- 25 bugs nominated to evaluate
- We are about 1 week behind schedule - slip everything out one week
- This gives us breathing room around Thanksgiving too

*Thunderbird 0.2*

- Going to happen any minute now
- mscott has cut a branch, which needs a fix or two
- He is aiming to ship 0.3 at the same time as 1.5
- Perhaps Firebird 0.7 as well

*FTP*

- We need to set up a mirror network and/or FTP server
ourselves
- We should use 1.6 alpha as a bandwidth/load test for komodo alone -
help to judge
- What about bittorrent? P2P? Push builds there first?

*More user-friendly builds*

- Focus on 1.5, rather than 1.4.1, for friendly builds
- 1.5 is not too locked down yet, but we need to hurry up
- Pull out Tinderbox sidebar panel; reduce hits on mozilla.org servers
- We need to move discussion directly to a tracking bug

*Software patents demo*

- It's possible there will be a repeat of the online demo at the end of
September
- There's disagreement about whether we want to do anything on this
- We need to have a discussion before we alter the website again

Gerv

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Sep 8, 2003, 2:26:33 PM9/8/03
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Gervase Markham wrote:
> *Software patents demo*
>
> - It's possible there will be a repeat of the online demo at the end of
> September
> - There's disagreement about whether we want to do anything on this
> - We need to have a discussion before we alter the website again

What's this about?

/ David

Thomas Kaschwig

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Sep 8, 2003, 3:04:24 PM9/8/03
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* none <"@> wrote:

http://swpat.ffii.org/

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Michael Lefevre

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Sep 8, 2003, 3:05:27 PM9/8/03
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A bunch of open source websites shut down (replaced with a page) or just
had an extra gateway page, to protest about the proposed software patents
in Europe.

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/0,39020381,39116053,00.htm
http://slashdot.org/articles/03/08/29/0510200.shtml?tid=155&tid=185&tid=99

and for more about the issue:
http://swpat.ffii.org/
http://www.eurolinux.org/

Someone actually changed the Mozilla.org home page (much to my surprise,
having predicted they wouldn't do anything), but it was changed back an
hour or so later.

Evidently some people weren't happy that the home page was changed without
a discussion (because they felt Mozilla.org shouldn't be involved in such
a protest). Call me cynical, but I would imagine that the chances of
having a such a discussion and concluding that everyone was happy to
support the protest are not high...

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Grey Hodge / jesus X

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Sep 8, 2003, 9:46:56 PM9/8/03
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On 9/8/2003 3:05 PM Michael Lefevre cranked up the brainbox and said:
> Evidently some people weren't happy that the home page was changed without
> a discussion (because they felt Mozilla.org shouldn't be involved in such
> a protest). Call me cynical, but I would imagine that the chances of
> having a such a discussion and concluding that everyone was happy to
> support the protest are not high...

No, there will always be complainers, and that's fine with me. This is an issue
that DIRECTLY effects Mozilla.org and it's software technologies, and every
other open source effort out there. Let the complainers do so. This is an
important issue that even major corporations are taking sides on. Sometimes, you
_have_ to fight, no matter how much you don't want to.

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Michael Lefevre

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Sep 9, 2003, 6:10:26 AM9/9/03
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In article <bjjasq$5j...@ripley.netscape.com>, Grey Hodge / jesus X wrote:
> On 9/8/2003 3:05 PM Michael Lefevre cranked up the brainbox and said:
>> Evidently some people weren't happy that the home page was changed without
>> a discussion (because they felt Mozilla.org shouldn't be involved in such
>> a protest). Call me cynical, but I would imagine that the chances of
>> having a such a discussion and concluding that everyone was happy to
>> support the protest are not high...
>
> No, there will always be complainers, and that's fine with me. This is an issue
> that DIRECTLY effects Mozilla.org and it's software technologies, and every
> other open source effort out there. Let the complainers do so. This is an
> important issue that even major corporations are taking sides on. Sometimes, you
> _have_ to fight, no matter how much you don't want to.

I agree. However, in terms of Mozilla stuff, from what I've seen it tends
to be the case that if there are "complainers", then the path of least
resistance is followed. I hope I will be proved wrong in this case...

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Gervase Markham

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Sep 9, 2003, 11:51:04 AM9/9/03
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> Evidently some people weren't happy that the home page was changed without
> a discussion (because they felt Mozilla.org shouldn't be involved in such
> a protest).

That, and the fact that the protest page had a few technical problems.

Gerv

Christopher Blizzard

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Sep 17, 2003, 2:36:58 PM9/17/03
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No, there were technical issues.  (I kept breaking stuff - our web site is so fragile.  *sigh*)  It wasn't an issue of people complaining too loudly.  I was happy that the firebird site went ahead and did it.

--Chris

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