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farcus

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Mar 27, 2002, 12:56:31 AM3/27/02
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I often get emails composed in English on a Japanese system.
My girlfriend composes emails in English on the Japanese version of
Netscape 6.XX and they display just fine when they get to me.
However, the same composed on OE do not display correctly when they get
to me. I have my computer set to auto detect for Japanese but still have
to set this manually every time I get such an email composed on
something other than Netscape.
Is this a known bug?
I'm using Moz 0.9.9 on Win ME.

farcus

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Mar 27, 2002, 11:21:49 PM3/27/02
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Sorry I'm reposting this - but it got lost in the spam.

Erik Corry

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Mar 28, 2002, 8:08:53 AM3/28/02
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farcus <farc...@yahoo.co.nz> wrote:
> I often get emails composed in English on a Japanese system.
> My girlfriend composes emails in English on the Japanese version of
> Netscape 6.XX and they display just fine when they get to me.
> However, the same composed on OE do not display correctly when they get
> to me. I have my computer set to auto detect for Japanese but still have
> to set this manually every time I get such an email composed on
> something other than Netscape.

One can't really diagnose this unless you send the headers of
the problem mail, so we can see how OE is indicating the charset
and encoding.

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Erik Corry

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Mar 29, 2002, 6:42:42 AM3/29/02
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farcus <farc...@yahoo.co.nz> wrote:
> Sorry I'm reposting this - but it got lost in the spam.

You need a newsreader with a kill file so you don't get overwhelmed.
:-)

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=a7v4l5%24kag%244%40news.net.uni-c.dk

Katsuhiko Momoi

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Mar 29, 2002, 7:59:16 AM3/29/02
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farcus wrote:

> I've had another look at the problem. It seems that the emails that
> are sent to me do display correctly using this encoding "Japanese
> ISO2022-jp" however they do not display correctly using "Japanese
> Shift-JS"
> While I have Mozilla set to auto detect Japanese I do not get to
> choose which version of Japanese it should use. Is this a problem or
> should it detect the correct one used?

Your description is actually confusing. The only way to tell what the
problem is for you to copy/paste the source of the message that is
having this problem. You can engage the menu, View | Message Source and
then copy/pastejust the headers, e.g.:

From: farcus <farc...@yahoo.delete.co.nz.netscape.com>
Newsgroups: netscape.public.mozilla.mail-news
Subject: Re: auto detect
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 12:45:18 +0900
Organization: Another Netscape Collabra Server User
Lines: 26
Message-ID: <3CA3E34E...@yahoo.delete.co.nz>
References: <3CA15F0F...@yahoo.co.nz> <a7v4l5$kag$4...@news.net.uni-c.dk>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.139.94.23
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.9) Gecko/20020311
X-Accept-Language: en-us, en
Resent-Message-ID: <"qOJZS.A.0YD.PY_o8"@gila.mozilla.org>
Resent-From: mozilla-...@mozilla.org
X-Mailing-List: <mozilla-...@mozilla.org> archive/latest/22271
X-Loop: mozilla-...@mozilla.org
Precedence: list

- Kat
Resent-Sender: mozilla-mail...@mozilla.org


>
>
> Erik Corry wrote:
>
>>farcus <farc...@yahoo.co.nz> wrote:
>>
>>>I often get emails composed in English on a Japanese system.
>>>My girlfriend composes emails in English on the Japanese version of
>>>Netscape 6.XX and they display just fine when they get to me.
>>>However, the same composed on OE do not display correctly when they get
>>>to me. I have my computer set to auto detect for Japanese but still have
>>>to set this manually every time I get such an email composed on
>>>something other than Netscape.
>>>
>>
>>One can't really diagnose this unless you send the headers of
>>the problem mail, so we can see how OE is indicating the charset
>>and encoding.
>>
>
--

Katsuhiko Momoi <mo...@netscape.com>
Web Standards/Embedding
Netscape Technology Evangelism/Developer Support


farcus

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Apr 1, 2002, 8:50:54 AM4/1/02
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Does this help any?
This message does not auto detect while others that I receive from a
Netscape source do.

From - Wed Mar 27 12:47:43 2002
X-UIDL: 6f4b2c7eadad07f6c632a392d30e63e7
X-Mozilla-Status: 0003
X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
X-Apparently-To: farc...@yahoo.co.nz via web14808.mail.yahoo.com; 26 Mar 2002 18:10:18 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <yop...@attglobal.net>
Received: from out4.prserv.net (EHLO prserv.net) (32.97.166.34)
by mta402.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Mar 2002 18:10:18 -0800 (PST)
Received: from oemcomputer (slip-210-88-168-118.os.jp.prserv.net[210.88.168.118])
by prserv.net (out4) with SMTP
id <2002032702101320406g1i3fe>; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 02:10:14 +0000
Message-ID: <002001c1d53d$2a4e9940$71a858d2@oemcomputer>
From: "yoko watanabe" <yop...@attglobal.net>
To: "Mark Fairbairn" <farc...@yahoo.co.nz>
References: <3C0C9A54...@yahoo.co.nz>
Subject: ?g??
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 12:10:14 +0900
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200

Erik Corry

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Apr 1, 2002, 10:30:02 AM4/1/02
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farcus <farc...@yahoo.delete.co.nz> wrote:

>>> I've had another look at the problem. It seems that the emails that
>>> are sent to me do display correctly using this encoding "Japanese
>>> ISO2022-jp" however they do not display correctly using "Japanese
>>> Shift-JS"
>>> While I have Mozilla set to auto detect Japanese I do not get to
>>> choose which version of Japanese it should use. Is this a problem or
>>> should it detect the correct one used?

> Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="us-ascii"

A mail marked like this should have neither ISO2022 or Shift-JS
in it, so there's a bug in the sender if it contains anything
but English letters.

Whether it is possible for Mozilla to be clever and detect the
true character encoding I don't know.

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