blue sky: virtual view of of mail and news
Seth Spitzer
virtual folders, specifically a virtual Inbox. It would be great if all
my incoming mail was viewable from one folder. (There are existing
bugzilla bugs for a virtual folders.)
That got me thinking about a purely virtual view of mail and news.
Instead of:
server 1
folders
server 2
folders
...
server n
folders
It would be:
Incoming Mail (virtual Inbox) [defaults to everything?]
Today
Yesterday
Last Week
to sspi...@netscape.com
to sspi...@sspitzer.org
Incoming News (virtual news) [defaults to only unread news items]
recently read
recently posts
just n.p.m.mail-news
just n.p.m.xpcom
Sent Mail (virtual Sent) [defaults to today?]
Today
Yesterday
Last Week
from sspi...@netscape.com
from sspi...@sspitzer.org
Recently Deleted Mail (virtual Trash)
Recent In Progress mail (virtual Drafts)
Recently Unsent Mail (virtual Unsent Messages)
Recently Filed Mail (virtual everything else)
Last Week
Folders recently accessed
Everything
[under here, the current folder structure]
Basically, merge the idea of browser history (by date, by domain) with mail.
You wouldn't be able to file into any of the virtual folders, but you'd
be able to delete, move or copy out of them.
The folders would be populated by searches. If you click on "Incoming
Mail / Yesterday", it's a search of your inboxes.
We'd probably have to come up with some tricks to make this faster, but
you get the idea.
This is big time "blue sky". I'm focusing on my 0.9.9 bug list,
addressbook issues and addressbook performance. But I thought I'd
throw this out there.
-Seth
Henrik Gemal
> I've got two active mail accounts and I've been thinking a lot about
> virtual folders, specifically a virtual Inbox. It would be great if all
> my incoming mail was viewable from one folder. (There are existing
> bugzilla bugs for a virtual folders.)
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11051
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58380
>
> That got me thinking about a purely virtual view of mail and news.
Cool!
Virtual Folders woul be soo cool!
One of the best examples is in Ximian Evolution
http://www.ximian.com/products/ximian_evolution/features.html
The vFolders there are very fast!
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Jonathan Cheyne
> The folders would be populated by searches. If you click on "Incoming
> Mail / Yesterday", it's a search of your inboxes.
> We'd probably have to come up with some tricks to make this faster, but
> you get the idea.
>
> This is big time "blue sky". I'm focusing on my 0.9.9 bug list,
> addressbook issues and addressbook performance. But I thought I'd
> throw this out there.
Would be fantastic - the very idea! Chuck that bug list out and get on
with it! :-)
J
basic
first. ;-)
basic
MAD
Seth Spitzer
> sounds great, but I would love to see more perf and fixes for mail and
> news first. ;-)
Yes, performance, footprint, quality and bug fixing comes first in my
Seth Spitzer
> Virtual Folders woul be soo cool!
> One of the best examples is in Ximian Evolution
> http://www.ximian.com/products/ximian_evolution/features.html
> The vFolders there are very fast!
When I get some cycles, I'll check out Evolutions vFolders.
In any case, this would be post 1.0.
-Seth
Nigel L
Seth Spitzer wrote:
> etc.
This would be so nice for those of us who must cope with unreliable
servers. We could instruct that mail be sent to two addresses
simultaneously.
Rgds, Nigel L
Jeremy Howard
<...>
> That got me thinking about a purely virtual view of mail and news.
> Recently Deleted Mail (virtual Trash)
It would be nice if in doing this Moz started using the 'Deleted' flag
to show stuff as being in the Trash folder, rather than actually
having a separate folder. More in spirit with "the IMAP way", and
suggested in the past by Mark Crispin, amongst others.
Seth Spitzer
> This would be so nice for those of us who must cope with unreliable
> servers. We could instruct that mail be sent to two addresses
> simultaneously.
you can already do this, if I understand you correct. Look in your
Account Settings, under Copied & Folders. You can specify an address to
always bcc when sending mail.
-Seth
Seth Spitzer
>It would be nice if in doing this Moz started using the 'Deleted' flag
>to show stuff as being in the Trash folder, rather than actually
>having a separate folder. More in spirit with "the IMAP way", and
>suggested in the past by Mark Crispin, amongst others.
>
Mozilla already supports the IMAP delete model.
Account Settings | Server Settings | [When I delete a message:]
In mozilla, the default is "Move it to the Trash folder" by default,
instead of "Mark as deleted".
(I can't remember if that's what 4.x did, or not. For some reason, I
think we defaulted to "Mark as deleted.)
-Seth
Jens Schlatter
wrote:
> That got me thinking about a purely virtual view of mail and news.
>
Also I would like to be able to switch the "from:" address and name
without switching the account. Some people call me "Tintin" and I want
to write to them as Tintin, whereas to others I want to write as "Mr.
Schlatter" or as "Jens".
Also, to some companies I'd like to write with my
anti-spam-from-address whereas others may get my good mail address.
Jens
barney
>
> Also I would like to be able to switch the "from:" address and name
> without switching the account. Some people call me "Tintin" and I want
> to write to them as Tintin, whereas to others I want to write as "Mr.
> Schlatter" or as "Jens".
> Also, to some companies I'd like to write with my
> anti-spam-from-address whereas others may get my good mail address.
>
Seems to me you can already do this, assuming you've already got those
accounts set up. In the compose window, don't you get a drop-down list
when you click on the "From:" address box?
Multiple identities for a single account is a different topic
altogether, though, but is something I would like as well.
Jonas Jørgensen
It would also be nice to be able to freely customize the From: header
per message. I'm sure I saw a bug for that once...
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Jeremy Howard
> Jeremy,
>
> Mozilla already supports the IMAP delete model.
I know Seth. It supports the two separate models. My proposal (well,
Mark's proposal that I'm echoing) is that under a "virtual folder"
approach you don't have a real Trash folder at all, but show
deleted-but-not-purged messages in the UI as being in a "Trash"
folder.
It's no big deal--just a neat approach that none of the mail clients
currently support, but is a cool thing to mention while you're
blue-skying.
PS: I just replied to your cc'd email to me not knowing that you'd
also posted. When you cc please note "cc'd to poster" or something
similar at the top to avoid "stealth cc'ing", which is pretty
annoying. Ideally Moz would do this be default when cc'ing and
following up to NG to encourage this little courtesy. :-)
barney
Yes, there have been a few times when I wanted to directly edit the
From: address, so that would be a nicety, too, but if the same aliases
are used frequently, it's much more convenient to set up (dummy)
accounts with those names. At the moment, it's the only means to get
multiple identities. It's kludgy, but it works.