How do I delete one tab, before I open Friefox?
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I've had this problem both in WinXP and 98. Until I get my XP working
again, I'm back in 98SE and I can only open 10 to 20 tabs, and
sometimes I open too many.
Even worse is when I open up a tab that win98 can't handle with FF2.
What I've been doing is watching carefully when the tabs start to
load, and deleting the last one (it's usually the last one which is
the problem).
But yesterday I couldn't even do that. By the time there was more
than one tab, the program was already "jumpy", or the cursor was, and
it took 3 tries, forced closing and reopening of Firefox, to eliminate
that last tab.
Isn't there a file where the urls of the tabs are kept? Could I edit
the file and remove enough tabs so I don't use all my RAM, or remove
the tab that is causing the freeze or crash?
I've looked through the data areas I could find, looking for a file
that changed in the last few minutes, the last time I changed a url in
a tab, but I can't find any file that just changed. I looked in the
FF folder at least. I'm still confused by the windows heirarchy and
don't know where else to look.
Anyone know the file name, or where it is?
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
there isn't any specific file. If FF crashes and when
you reopen FF, then the same 10 tabs are there, then
thats called session restore. You could turn that off.
In the address bar type in about:config and look for
this entry:
browser.sessionstore.enabled
once found, double click on it and change it to false.
I don't know if this will help, but you could delete
the history.dat file. However, that will also remove
ALL of the sites you have visited and other stuff.
Also, FF should be crashing all the time. I used
win98FE and I never had a problem with the way you
discribe. So, perhaps you should be looking at why
win98se is always crashing FF. Perhaps its a FF addon
you have. So, try and start FF in safe mode. To do
that, close FF, then click on the windows start button,
then run and enter:
firefox.exe -safe-mode
does the problem continue in safe mode?
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Hmmm. I don't want to turn it off. I use it all the time. I only
want to eliminate the tab I think is causing problems.
> In the address bar type in about:config and look for
>this entry:
>
>browser.sessionstore.enabled
Can't do that, because FF freezes before it opens fully.
I searched carefully before I posted, but I searched again, maybe more
carefully :( , and I found the file, which was updated only an hour
ago. Of course they wil have a different path in other OSes, but the
filename is like you said, sessionstore.js The full path in win98 is:
c:\windows\application
data\mozilla\firefox\profiles\qx6d36k9.default\sessionstore.js .
There is also
c:\windows\application
data\mozilla\firefox\profiles\qx6d36k9.default\sessionstore.bak, which
has the same date and time, but is 54,000 bytes instead of 54,427.
(I know what the difference is. Very specific to me. Last time I
clicked okay for the general userid and password to use the county
plat map service, but this time I clicked cancel and got the 401 that
shows at the end.)
If I can find my binary file compare program, I will compare the two
files and the difference will likely be a tab I added in between.
That should quickly tell me the format.
But if fc.exe (part of Norton Utilities iirc) doesn't work, I'll
compare it by eye. Then I will back up the current copy and I also
have fileedit, iirc in Norton Utilities tha will let me, delete one
tab (the info for one tab), and if it won't let me do that, it will
certainly allow me to change the url to a simple one, or to one that
doesn't exist.
>once found, double click on it and change it to false.
>
>I don't know if this will help, but you could delete
>the history.dat file. However, that will also remove
>ALL of the sites you have visited and other stuff.
I certainly don't want to lose all that stuff.
>Also, FF should be crashing all the time. I used
>win98FE and I never had a problem with the way you
>discribe. So, perhaps you should be looking at why
>win98se is always crashing FF. Perhaps its a FF addon
If I were going to be here long, I would look into it more. But as
soon as I get XP working again, I'll be back there. And I never lose
data when FF crashes, and all the same tabs open up the next time, so
it's not a big problem.
>you have. So, try and start FF in safe mode. To do
>that, close FF, then click on the windows start button,
>then run and enter:
>
>firefox.exe -safe-mode
>
>does the problem continue in safe mode?
I havent' tried that yet. Maybe I should. Windows98 safe mode always
messes a couple things up for me. I know that has no relationship to
FF safe mode, but it's still has made me safe-mode-shy. :)
BTW, here's the first part of sessionstore.js:
({windows:[{tabs:[{entries:[#4={url:"http://www.baltimorecountymd.gov/Agencies/budfin/taxsearch/taxbill101.html",
children:[], title:"Tax Bill Thumbnails", ID:2282804154,
scroll:"0,606"}], index:1, zoom:1, disallow:"", xultab:"",
extData:null, text:"", _tab:#5={}},
{entries:[{url:"http://ds1.domainspa.com/hc3.asp",
children:[{url:"http://ds1.domainspa.com/blank.htm", children:[],
ID:2334826515, scroll:"0,0"}], title:"Plat.net", ID:2334826514,
scroll:"0,0"},
{url:"http://www.msa.md.gov/megafile/msa/stagser/s1500/s1529/html/0000.html",
children:[], title:"401 Authorization Required", ID:2334826516,
scroll:"0,0"},
{url:"http://plato.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/stagser/s1500/s1529/cfm/dsp_court.cfm?county=ba",
children:[], title:"Maryland State Archives, Baltimore County Circuit
Court, Land Survey, Subdivision, and Condominium Plats",
ID:2334826517, scroll:"0,0"},.....
Looking at it here, instead of another program I have, makes it easier
to eyeball it, because in Agent, the hurls are in green and
underlined. I thought the entries would be longer, because I assume
they have to include all the Back and Forward urls for each tab (the
chidren? Are there parents too?), but I see they are there, just not
many.
Also, looking at the file in Notepad++, it highlights the ID: number
in red, and [] and () in bold, so that helps see the pattern too.
4DOS List and NTDOS List (free now) will display the file and display
it in hex, so I can see verify that the line breaks are put in by
notepad++. I think they are.
The tabs may be numbered, they must have some way to put them in the
right order. Maybe if I take out 4 and don't renumber the tabs
greater than 4, that will cause problems. But maybe not. Well, I'd
like to learn how to do this, but maybe today there is a quicker way.
Maybe if I said Yes instead of Cancel to the password questions, it
would open correctly.
When I have this many tabs open and one may be using more ram than
others, or something, I think I have to close every other program
before I open FF. In XP that's not been necessary, and I've had up to
70 tabs open at one time. (In 98SE, with the same amount of RAM, 1
gig, I can only open 22 and sometimes fewer.) So I'm going to post
this now before I have any real results. I plan to post back with the
results.
Thanks.
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
yeah, sessionstore.js might be the file. Thats the
file that will contain all the pages you have visited
at the time of a crash, and will restore them upon a
restart. So, if you can figure it out, good luck. Or,
perhaps just remove the file altogether, with FF
closed, and see what happens when you restart.
mm
This time, the other problem was figuring out what tab is causing the
problem. I opened FF again, and this last time I said OK, to the
small box that held the universal userid and password for the county
plat maps. And this time FF started. And it displayed again the
compressed Quicktime map of my n'hood. It may be that that was
easier for FF than the 401 I got when I said cancel to the
userid/password screen.
Other times I've had a good idea which tab was the problem, usually
the right-most, but maybe not every time. At least I'll be further
along when this happens again.