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Hendrik Maryns

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Oct 13, 2006, 5:21:58 AM10/13/06
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Hello,

When viewing a message in TB, there is this little plus (minus) sign
next to the message subject, to make the addressees appear (disappear).

Is there some keyboard shortcut or access key to do this?

I can’t find it anywhere in the View menu or elsewhere either.

H.
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Hendrik Maryns

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Oct 13, 2006, 11:40:50 AM10/13/06
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Rom schreef:


> On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 11:21:58 +0200, Hendrik Maryns wrote:
>
>> When viewing a message in TB, there is this little plus (minus) sign
>> next to the message subject, to make the addressees appear (disappear).
>>
>> Is there some keyboard shortcut or access key to do this?
>>
>> I can’t find it anywhere in the View menu or elsewhere either.
>

> Try the Headers Toggle extension:
> <https://addons.mozilla.org/thunderbird/1489/>

That is not what I am asking for. Read carefully my description, I
cannot word it better.

Is there no way to do this inside TB? That is a serious flaw, if you
ask me. Not a good thing for users that can’t/won’t use a mouse...

H.
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Hendrik Maryns
http://tcl.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de/~hendrik/
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Andy Luddy

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Oct 13, 2006, 1:11:08 PM10/13/06
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> Rom schreef:
>> On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 11:21:58 +0200, Hendrik Maryns wrote:
>>
>>> When viewing a message in TB, there is this little plus (minus) sign
>>> next to the message subject, to make the addressees appear (disappear).
>>>
>>> Is there some keyboard shortcut or access key to do this?
>>>
>>> I can’t find it anywhere in the View menu or elsewhere either.
>> Try the Headers Toggle extension:
>> <https://addons.mozilla.org/thunderbird/1489/>
>
> That is not what I am asking for. Read carefully my description, I
> cannot word it better.
>
> Is there no way to do this inside TB? That is a serious flaw, if you
> ask me. Not a good thing for users that can’t/won’t use a mouse...

Are you referring to the "+" or "-" sign that appears next to the first
message in a thread, and which expands or collapses the thread? If so,
you can expand a thread when the message (with the "+" sign next to it)
is selected by pressing the right arrow key. You can collapse a thread
by pressing the left arrow key to navigate up the thread until you are
on the message with the "-" sign, then pressing the left arrow will
collapse the thread.

Alternately, you can press "*" to expand all threads, or "\" to collapse
all threads. I don't know of a single key stroke to collapse just the
current thread. In a very deep thread, it can require multiple
pressings of the left arrow to climb to the first message, and only then
will the left arrow collapse the thread. I find it easiest if in that
situation to use "\", collapsing all threads, and then re-expand other
threads as necessary. YMMV.

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Andy Luddy
Perform appendectomy to reply
aluddy....@adelphia.net

Mumia W. (reading news)

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Oct 13, 2006, 3:25:21 PM10/13/06
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On 10/13/2006 10:40 AM, Hendrik Maryns wrote:
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> Rom schreef:
>> On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 11:21:58 +0200, Hendrik Maryns wrote:
>>
>>> When viewing a message in TB, there is this little plus (minus) sign
>>> next to the message subject, to make the addressees appear (disappear).
>>>
>>> Is there some keyboard shortcut or access key to do this?
>>>
>>> I can’t find it anywhere in the View menu or elsewhere either.

>> Try the Headers Toggle extension:
>> <https://addons.mozilla.org/thunderbird/1489/>
>
> That is not what I am asking for. Read carefully my description, I
> cannot word it better.
>
> Is there no way to do this inside TB? That is a serious flaw, if you
> ask me. Not a good thing for users that can’t/won’t use a mouse...
>

I believe the Mnenhy extension provides this (and other) functionality:
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=mnenhy

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Mumia W.
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Samuel Proulx

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Oct 13, 2006, 4:25:50 PM10/13/06
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Andy Luddy wrote:
> Are you referring to the "+" or "-" sign that appears next to the first
> message in a thread, and which expands or collapses the thread? If so,
> you can expand a thread when the message (with the "+" sign next to it)
> is selected by pressing the right arrow key. You can collapse a thread
> by pressing the left arrow key to navigate up the thread until you are
> on the message with the "-" sign, then pressing the left arrow will
> collapse the thread.
You can also toggle (expand/collapse) the current thread by pressing
enter on the message. This, I think, is a bug; enter also opens the
message. This means that, if I have a thread expanded, and then open
the first message in that thread (by pressing enter), the thread is
collapsed. This is extremely irritating.

Also, if you're using a screen reader, the state of threads will not be
correctly read out. This resulted in me missing tons of messages before
I realized they could be opened and the replies were underneath. This
is interesting, as the new/unread/replied icons are read just fine.

--
Samuel Proulx
mailto: sam...@interfree.ca
http://fastfinge.livejournal.com
I'll never be cruel to an electron in a particle accelerator again. --
The Doctor, in "The Pirate Planet"

Hendrik Maryns

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Oct 16, 2006, 6:44:57 AM10/16/06
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Mumia W. (reading news) schreef:

It gives a lot of possibilities to explicitly choose which headers to
show etc, but I can’t find a key combination to get them to show.

H.
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Hendrik Maryns
http://tcl.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de/~hendrik/
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