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Terri Miyamoto

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Jul 1, 2008, 6:53:22 PM7/1/08
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A few of us have put up the site at http://stclaresi.com/, just learning NOF
along the way.
We're not really designers, so friendly input would be appreciated. We've
used snippets from some of the stained glass in the church for the banner.
We're thinking about changing the buttons to pick up some of the same colors
and textures as in the banner, but keeping them the same size and shape.

And I know the circular graphic in the top left doesn't have a transparent
background -- that's a place holder just now for a series of pictures that
will rotate through there.

There are three puzzles that have us scratching our heads. First, the site
is centered in Internet Explorer, but not in Firefox, and we're at a loss as
to what to look at to track that down.

The Second is how to share development tasks among a group of people. What
we've been doing is assigned one person the central/publishing
responsibility. Every day he exports the site as a template and places it
where the rest of us can download it. We use it to create a new site on our
own PCs, then change the page(s) we're assigned. When they're ready, we
export just those pages as a template and send them back to the central
person, who then imports them into the master copy. Problem is, when you
create internal links, they get messed up on the final import if someone
else has edited and replaced the page you're linking to. Also, it's not easy
communicating exactly where new pages are supposed to go in the structure.

Third -- not every page should show up on our menus. I looked at the support
web site and found an answer to this, saying you can mark a page to not be
included in the menu in the Properties Palette in Site view. But that
doesn't seem to be an option in the version we're using (Fusion Essentials).
Or are we missing it?

- Terri

Rosalind

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Jul 17, 2008, 5:34:22 AM7/17/08
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For the problem with the centered layout you might wish to have a look at
http://alt-web.com/Tutorials/centered.html and see if that helps.

It might be worth making your pages slightly wider. I am viewing on 15"
monitor set at 1024x768 and I figure if it looks OK for me it will look OK
for most. After publishing I can also check out on a 17" laptop and 19".

Fonts should be consistent throughout your site and Verdana is generally
regarded as the best as it was written for screen use. Size is very
important and while the larger text is using Arial is OK the very small
Times New Roman is not, and think of your readers, are they all 20 year olds
with 20/20 vision?
The same applies to your navigation button, which are default Nof and they
are too small.

I have two church sites, the first www.holytrinity-madeira.com was
originally built using NOF, it still looks much the same now as it did then,
but is due another upgrade to use PHP. And the second is a new project,
still awating all the text and pictures www.madeiraevangelicalchurch.com
which was built with DW.

Rosalind

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Carl Kruck

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Jul 18, 2008, 6:42:45 AM7/18/08
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I agree with Rosalind

Definitely use Arial or Verdana for all your text, with highlights and
headings as H1-H3 text; not only will they stand out but I think the search
engines will look at those as important text on your site. For viewing on
800*600 minimum, set your page width to 770 pixels.

It would be worth you adding Google Analytics code to your site ("End of
Body" in MasterBorder HTML) to track your visitor usage as well. We have had
it on our site http://www.humeridgechurch.org for over a year now and have
been able to track all sorts of info about what pages people visit most and
least, screen resolutions users have and connection speeds, so we can
optimise the site for as many people as possible. Becasue it is a church
site I highly recommend subscribing to the ChurchSite-Chat mailing list -
http://guide.gospelcom.net/resources/churchsite-chat.php
Lots of 2-way talk for building church websites especially.

Carl


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Terri Miyamoto

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Jul 29, 2008, 5:59:44 PM7/29/08
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Thank you for your input!
I guess we figured that the NOF defaults would be set up by people who know
better than we do about good design, so we didn't change most of fonts . I
appreciate your comments. We'll work on that. We have a pile of pages that
we've brought over from a previous site, so sometimes I guess we just did
copy & paste and must have kept some of the old formatting.

I'll try looking at the church site chat. Sounds interesting.

The challenge we have is we have so much information, it's hard to figure
out how to make it all find-able.

- Terri


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Rosalind

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Jul 30, 2008, 10:33:45 AM7/30/08
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I hope you didn't copy and paste from Microsoft Frontpage, both that and
copying from Word can break your website. Best to copy into notepad and
remove all the formatting.
Maybe some sort of site map will help viewers find their way around, I have
put one on as pages had been moved and regular viewers couldn't find the
relevant pages.

Rosalind

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