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Katherine

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Jul 6, 2005, 2:48:06 PM7/6/05
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I've edited this possible site design a bit and would appreciate your
comments.

New:
http://www.realestatesellingstory.com/test2/

Old:
http://www.realestatesellingstory.com/test/

(E-cover graphic is unchanged.)

As always, thanks for your help........K


Charles Edmonds

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Jul 6, 2005, 5:19:27 PM7/6/05
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On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:48:06 -0400, Katherine wrote:

> New:
> http://www.realestatesellingstory.com/test2/

Katherine,

I like the new better, but I (personally) would like to see the line of
text "Real Estate Selling Story" raised above the line it sits on. To me
the bottom of the letters get lost a bit there.

HTH,

Charles


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Allison Moore

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Jul 6, 2005, 6:30:13 PM7/6/05
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>>http://www.realestatesellingstory.com/test2/

Katherine,

I like your shop awning idea. The new version has more snap.
I know what Charles means about "Real Estate Selling Story",
but I don't have a solution. Maybe the problem is that
design-wise it's in limbo between the awning and the text.
Should it be more like a shop sign? Should it have a shadow
so it's on par with the ebooks and the text plaque?

Allison


Katherine

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Jul 7, 2005, 11:44:49 AM7/7/05
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Charles and Allison,

Thanks so much for taking the time to look at my design and offer comments.

I worked some more on it and would like to know what you think, if you would
indulge me one more time.

It's at http://www.realestatesellingstory.com/test3/

The old #2 edition is at http://www.realestatesellingstory.com/test2/

The one thing I didn't try was putting the "Real Estate Selling Story" title
within a frame. If you think the title still needs work, I'll give that a
try next.

Again, thanks for your help. My idea is a little ambitious for my graphic
design skill level, so I need all the input I can get!

K


Katherine

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Jul 7, 2005, 1:13:41 PM7/7/05
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Optimizing for the Web really washes out the green in this stripe. In
Photoshop, I tried adjusting the green to compensate. I can't get it
exactly. Would like to know how it looks on other monitors in comparison to
the unadjusted one.

Color adjusted:
It's at http://www.realestatesellingstory.com/test4/

Color NOT adjusted

Does anyone have a method for adjusting colors to compensate for the
compression of Web optimization? Or is it just trial and error for everyone?

Thanks.......K


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Allison Moore

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Jul 7, 2005, 12:59:05 PM7/7/05
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Nice awning supports! :>)

> The one thing I didn't try was putting the "Real Estate Selling Story" title
> within a frame.

Even though the shadow makes the letters in the title a lot
softer, I think it's ok because they don't get quite so lost
in the border (which makes a very nice baseline). It also
makes more visual sense with the other elements. Since the
same title is clearly displayed twice immediately to the
left and the "magic of storytelling" deserves more focus,
the softer text is ok (perhaps even preferable).

I thought about the frame last night (possibly even
partially transparent so the baseline would show through),
but I think it might give the title too much focus.

Neat concept, Katherine.

Allison


Allison Moore

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Jul 7, 2005, 6:53:33 PM7/7/05
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> Color adjusted:
> It's at http://www.realestatesellingstory.com/test4/
>
> Color NOT adjusted
> It's at http://www.realestatesellingstory.com/test3/

FWIW, on my rig, the adjusted version (test4) looks greener
and the unadjusted (test3) looks grayer. The light blue
doesn't seem to change, but the dark blue, the green, the
khaki and the red-brown are all affected. The shift isn't huge.

My rig: IBM ThinkVision 22" monitor running at 1600x1200;
Matrox P650; Opera 8. When I started using this monitor two
months ago, I thought it had a slightly greener cast than
the Hitachi I had before.

Allison


Charles Edmonds

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Jul 7, 2005, 10:36:59 PM7/7/05
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On 7 Jul 2005 10:59:05 -0600, Allison Moore wrote:


> Neat concept, Katherine.

Katherine,

I think I pretty much agree with Allison down the line on this one<g>.

Well done,

Katherine

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Jul 8, 2005, 9:41:43 AM7/8/05
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Charles and Allison,

Thanks again for taking the time to look and comment. Your feedback has been
very helpful.

Hope you have a restful and fun weekend!

Kay


Andy Heer

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Jul 8, 2005, 9:46:42 AM7/8/05
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Restful and fun - mutually incompatible?

Seriously though Kay, what exactly do you mean about optimizing for the
web?

On test3 (not optimised) your image size is 102K and on test4
(optimised) your image size is 180K.

If you're talking about web-compatible colours, does that matter any
more with modern graphic cards and screens?

Andy

Allison Moore

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Jul 8, 2005, 1:42:52 PM7/8/05
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> I think I pretty much agree with Allison down the line on this one<g>.

Great minds, I guess. <bg>

Allison


Katherine

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Jul 8, 2005, 5:31:23 PM7/8/05
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Hi, Andy. Sorry I wasn't clear.

By optimizing for Web I simply meant using the PS "Save for Web" command
that, as you know, converts a PS file to a jpg, gif, png8 or png24. Since
the graphic you see at my test link is my whole page mockup created in PS, I
did indeed optimize it for the Web, despite it still-huge file size. Of
course, this is all done just so I could get something online and ask for
opinions.

The mockup will eventually be sliced up and portions of it used to create
the site graphics, so the file size of the graphic that's online now is not
an issue.

My concern is the *change* in colors that happens when the PS file is "Saved
for the Web." It's not anything to do with Web-safe colors. The colors in
the original PS file just look so much better (they're brighter) than what I
see once the file is compressed to a jpg. But I realize it's a moot point
since just about every monitor will render something slightly different from
all others, despite my efforts in the original PS file to up the color
saturation in hopes of maintining the brightness once the file is
compressed.

Also, in the end, I may use gif file format for the slices instead of jpg,
which may look better.

I hope I made sense this time........K


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Michael Evangelista <Evangelista Design>

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Jul 8, 2005, 6:31:18 PM7/8/05
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Katherine - for what you are doing,
try .gif format. The higher settings should get all of the colors just
right.

When you get to saving your slices, you may want to use jpg for the book
covers, and any photographic or gradient elements you place into your
graphics.


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Charles Edmonds

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Jul 9, 2005, 12:53:03 AM7/9/05
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On 8 Jul 2005 11:42:52 -0600, Allison Moore wrote:

> Great minds, I guess. <bg>

;-)

Katherine

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Jul 9, 2005, 2:55:14 AM7/9/05
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Thanks, Michael..............K

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