On Nov 10, 4:27 pm, true <true...@gmail.com
> Maybe I am not understanding what you mean by "ACE Meetings?"
> I am not ACE and have no desire to be. Training is flawed. Also, a
> language discussion between only those who have spent money on flawed
> training seems both elitist and wrong. If any discussions occur it
> should be amongst any interested parties.
That's a different discussion all together, we need to be sure of a
certain standard, and unless people openly show some code we aren't
sure of their level.
ACE should at least signify the capabilities of someone who hasn't
openly posted code or made good suggestions.
> I don't think any of us have been in contact with AMX. The only good
> relation I have is with a sales guy. Keep in mind, most of their
> programming force is used to staring at capslock and improperly used
> systems hungarian.
I'm hoping we can convince them of this path, make them see the light.
The light that's called modern world and that also means modern
programming conventions and a modern language.
> AMX also loves to make money. Since discussions
> would likely involve alienating the first and have nothing to do with
> the second, I am not sure how far they would go or how much they would
> care to listen...
Don't we all love making money to some degree?
Discussions would definitely mean 'alienating' their current standard
and has everything to do with the second. For if the language given to
the programmers is more powerful and easier to use it also means less
support and better systems, which turns in to more sales etc.
> Also, I haven't read this paper, but is it a system / compiler spec
> with formatting guidelines added or does it deal mostly with formatting?
It's virtually a book about what the language can do and a way to do
it. It's as much a formatting guideline as an explanation of the
I've seen it updated twice in a short time, however nothing is said
about what has changed and why it has changed. It is clear that
programmer's of different levels have 'messed about' with this
document as some examples are good and consistent and others are pure
In the end it all boils down to what we as a community do, but with
the support of the creators we can achieve a new standard.
Maybe it's time to let AXCESS go and focus completely on this new