Re: Whitelist versus Blacklist

[android netcompss]

Thanks Jordan,
I'm aware of the usability issue, and are working to improve it,
We first wanted to concentrate in the technology, and make it the best you can find in the market.

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 9:25 PM, Jordan T. Cohen <jordan...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thank you. I am glad that this is possible through the use of regular expressions. 

I personally think you could sell more apps if this was made clearer in the application. In fact, I think that just including the word blacklist in the market description will boost sales. 

If you can't easily separate the whitelist and blacklist features in the application, and therefore want to leave it to the more difficult use of regular expressions, then it may be worthwhile putting a note in the application when you are creating filters that says "Are you looking to blacklist (i.e. prevent) certain senders or subjects from triggering notification? If so, see these examples of how to do that..."

I look forward to your examples using regular expressions, as I am not familiar with that. 

- Jordan

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 1:58 PM, android netcompss <and...@netcompss.com> wrote:

Hi Jordan,
Thanks for you important comments!
We support this using regular expression filter.
You can see a regular expression example in the last template,
anyway, since this is a little hard, I will create an example for this tomorrow.

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Jordan T. Cohen <jordan...@gmail.com> wrote:

I just purchased the app, but think I made a mistake. I thought this would allow me to create a blacklist. Instead, it seems that it is a whitelist. Do I have to create a rule for every person I want to receive notifications for? What I want to do is create a blacklist to block notifications for a handful of senders. Whitelisting every sender I want to come through is not practical, and could lead to me not being notified about important emails from individuals contacting me for the first time (i.e. the human resources person at the job I applied for whom I have never contacted before). 

It would be a game changer if you could add the option of allowing all notifications except the ones that match the filter. There are plenty of discussions online about this functionality, especially from blackberry users who could add email addresses and subjects to a blacklist. It's also worth noting that, at least for gmail users, a whitelist application is essentially available from an app called GMail Label Notifier. I have yet to find a blacklist app. 

If you think that you could create this functionality in the near future, I would gladly not request a refund and just wait for the functionality. If you don't think that you will be enabling this feature -- which I think could be an economic mistake -- then I will request a refund. 

Sincerely, 

Jordan

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 12:56 AM, android netcompss <and...@netcompss.com> wrote:

Yes, the filtering happens on the device, the communication with the mailserver is secured.

Eli Hassson,
NetComps LTD

On May 26, 2011 7:23 AM, "Jordan T. Cohen" <jordan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for your email.
>
> So the act of filtering is occurring on the device, not on your site? Is
> this correct?
>
> If I understand it correctly, efilter will serve as a middle man on the
> device, and block notifications based on certain criteria? Is this correct?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jordan
>
> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 12:19 AM, android netcompss
> <and...@netcompss.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> Using Google OAuth is not good in this case, since the user will need, from
>> time to time, to update his password.
>> We choose to keep the password securly stored on the device.
>>
>> Eli Hassson,
>> NetComps LTD
>> On May 26, 2011 1:49 AM, "Jordan T. Cohen" <jordan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi Netcomps,
>> >
>> > I have some privacy and security questions regarding efilter.
>> >
>> > Do I have to give you my username and password in order to filter my
>> gmail?
>> > Are the credentials themselves encrypted?
>> >
>> > I love the idea of the program, but I am a little bit wary of providing
>> my
>> > credentials.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Jordan
>>

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Best Regards,
Eli Hasson,
Netcomps Android Team

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Best Regards,
Eli Hasson,
Netcomps Android Team

[android netcompss]

Jordan,
I uploaded a version to the market that add easy black list support (removing the need for complex regular expression).
Please download and give it a try.
In the template I set the from filter as the black list regular expression:
regex^:(.*[Ee]li.*)||(.*[Gg]inger.*)
which means Eli and Ginger are on the black list (can be also eli of ginger, or every other word which contains eli or ginger).
for example, if you get an email from: eli hasson
eFilter will not send you a notification.

What makes it a black list is the regex^: which negates the expression, if it was regex: then it was a regulat white list.