Is Netcom really fighting spam?
Steven Rosen
I know Netcom will kick out its own spammers BUT what is Netcom doing
to prevent outsiders from spamming its users? I get messages from
Netcom saying the email I received and copied them (with full headers)
didn't originate from a Netcom user and that it's up to me to trace it
down and complain to the spammer's ISP.
Netcom seems to not care much about stopping spam originating from
outside it's servers.
I feel it's too difficult for individual users to complain and that
the complaints won't carry much clout. If Netcom and other big IPSs
refused to accept email from the spammer's IPS we would get better
results.
MLG
In article <3559c1f1...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>,
so get an email client with filters.
my spam count is down to no more than 2 a week :)
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Steven Rosen
On Wed, 13 May 1998 19:37:53 GMT, is...@netcom.com (MLG) wrote:
>so get an email client with filters.
>my spam count is down to no more than 2 a week :)
Eudora Pro does a great filtering job but this doesn't solve the
problem. I still get 4+spam per day. I'm loooking for heavy weight
ISPs to do something about it.
Barry Margolin
In article <3559c1f1...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>,
Steven Rosen <r...@ixnospam.netcom.com> wrote:
>Netcom seems to not care much about stopping spam originating from
>outside it's servers.
This is about the same as most large ISPs.
>I feel it's too difficult for individual users to complain and that
>the complaints won't carry much clout. If Netcom and other big IPSs
>refused to accept email from the spammer's IPS we would get better
>results.
Blocking all mail from an ISP is usually overkill, unless the ISP is
knowingly encouraging spammers or blatantly ignores requests to cancel
spammers' accounts.
And complaints from individual users are likely to be more effective than
complaints from other ISPs, mainly because there are lots more of us. If
0.1% of the recipients of a spam complain, the ISP will probably receive
hundreds of complaints, which is difficult to ignore.
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Steven Rosen
On Mon, 18 May 1998 05:26:12 GMT, bar...@netcom.com (Barry Margolin)
wrote:
>And complaints from individual users are likely to be more effective than
>complaints from other ISPs, mainly because there are lots more of us. If
>0.1% of the recipients of a spam complain, the ISP will probably receive
>hundreds of complaints, which is difficult to ignore.
Don't think so. What happens is that Netscape just generates a form
email response saying - we don't encourage spam but if doesn't
originate from one of ours, there's nothing we can do. Have a nice
day.
I'd like to see a major ISP actively go after non resident spammers -
law suits whatever. I think the public would support it with
patronage.
MLG
In article <35609789...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>,
Steven Rosen <r...@ixnospam.netcom.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 18 May 1998 05:26:12 GMT, bar...@netcom.com (Barry Margolin)
>wrote:
>
>>And complaints from individual users are likely to be more effective than
>>complaints from other ISPs, mainly because there are lots more of us. If
>>0.1% of the recipients of a spam complain, the ISP will probably receive
>>hundreds of complaints, which is difficult to ignore.
>
>Don't think so. What happens is that Netscape just generates a form
>email response saying - we don't encourage spam but if doesn't
>originate from one of ours, there's nothing we can do. Have a nice
>day.
>
which is...true.
>I'd like to see a major ISP actively go after non resident spammers -
>law suits whatever. I think the public would support it with
>patronage.
>
and how would they do that? the spammer just claims that he did not post
the spam or that someone hacked his account and he didnt know it...etc etc.
how much of your $20 a month do you think could be spent by the legal
department to go after your spammers?
Steven Rosen
I'd pay an addl. $10.00 per month for spam free email/usenet and
maybe more for good 56k connection.