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Matthew H. Fields

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Aug 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/27/95
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You may be able to find them in alt.usenet.kooks now

Albert Silverman

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In article <41q9p5$9...@news.eecs.umich.edu>,

Matthew H. Fields <fie...@zip.eecs.umich.edu> wrote:
>
>You may be able to find them in alt.usenet.kooks now

I DO wish that we could keep such mentally deranged nuts from posting to
a newsgroup which is intended solely for the use of those who have Netcom
shell accounts.

Don't look now, "Doctor" Strangelove, but those men in the white coats
are sneaking up behind you to take you away. How on earth did you get
loose THIS time?

*HOME SWEET HOME!*

Jason Untulis

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Albert Silverman (slv...@netcom.com) wrote:
: In article <41q9p5$9...@news.eecs.umich.edu>,

: Matthew H. Fields <fie...@zip.eecs.umich.edu> wrote:
: >
: >You may be able to find them in alt.usenet.kooks now

: I DO wish that we could keep such mentally deranged nuts from posting to
: a newsgroup which is intended solely for the use of those who have Netcom
: shell accounts.

Don't worry, Al. If Matt couldn't post, I almost certainly would.

It's just another part of the conspiracy against you, Al. 8-)
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Ty Fairchild

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Albert Silverman (slv...@netcom.com) wrote and I quote:
: How is it, NutLoose, than whenever you are invited to put up or shut up,
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: it is ALWAYS the "shut up" option which you choose?

: Can this be because of your serious case of foot-in-mouth disease?

Hmmmmmmm. This is a real hard one. Hmmm. O.K. If you don't
want him to make a choice, don't offer one. Duh. However, if your
cleverosity is such that you offer a choice when you really meant
not to, then, weeeeell, I guess you're the NutLoose. HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa
HaHaHaHaHa . . . more like a case of a banana up your nose. HaHaHaHaHa
HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa@#*%$@#NO CARRIER.

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Albert Silverman

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In article <jrdavisD...@netcom.com>,
John Davis <jrd...@netcom.com> wrote:
>William J. Evans (w...@netcom.com) wrote:
>
>: slv...@netcom.com (Albert Silverman) wrote:
>: :Well if you don't know much about music, then what the hell are you
>: :posting about? It is folks like you that give this place such a bad name.
>
>: Your original recent posts in netcom.general were not about music.
>: Others said, effectively, "See how obnoxious he is? If you want to
>: see more examples of his obnoxiosity, see ..."
>
>: So I looked at the archives not to check out the musical debate, but
>: the obnoxiosity level. You passed the test with flying colors.
>
>: :Speaking of a double set of values, I don't hear YOU yelling, screaming,
>: :ranting, and raving about the mentally deranged "Doctor" Strangelove
>: :posting to netcom.general, when he is not even a netcom customer.
>
>: That's because I didn't want to change the subject. We were talking
>: about you, not him. But you're right on that score. So:
>
>: Matthew: Get the hell out of netcom.general with this very
>: enlightening shit.
>
>Why, Bill, you greatly misunderstand poor Al. He's been invited to a
>Bar-B-Q. They're going to have his favorite things, steak and corn on the
>cob, and he can't find his teeth. He put them in the glass last night
>and someone went and moved them on him. Why, it's enough to make a saint
>grouchy.

Some of us have been endowed with the ability to participate
intelligently in a discussion in a newsgroup topic thread. For your
information, this self-discipline is referred to as staying "on-topic."
Unfortunately, those who are less endowed have no idea what staying
within a discussion topic means, choosing instead to ramble on aimlessly,
incoherently, and absurdly about anything and everything that might suit
their fancy. By the way, John, how's the weather outside? Do you think
that OJ is guilty? Is Clinton going to be reelected president? What is
your assessment of Newt's book? Etc., etc., etc.

Folks with such limited intelligence do not need designated newsgroups,
with topics specific to each group. They are equally disposed to posting
anything they wish in any newsgroup, or to posting any idea they wish in
any discussion thread, whether or not it is relevant (look it up in the
dictionary) to the topic being discussed. It also seems that such folks
are highly disposed toward posting personal attacks, which have nothing
to do with the topic of the discussion thread. Can you figure out to WHOM
I am referring? Try real hard, John. You can do it. I know you can.

Perhaps you will recall that, in a recent post, I took you to task for
criticizing my criticism about Netcom's news service, and for pointing
out that you do not understand the nature of the variations in news
threading with different newsreaders. But instead of recognizing when
Silence is Golden and pulling in your horns, you have now set out upon
the same course taken by "Doctor" Strangelove. You seem intent upon
exacting revenge for my exposing your lack of knowledge and your low
standards for ISP performance. So, burning with desire to get that sweet
revenge (just like NutLoose and "Doctor" Strangelove before you), you
can't wait to return for another crack at the brass ring. Well, John,
you're just not going to get that ring. Some people will NEVER learn.

For your information (surprise, surprise), the subject of this particular
discussion thread is the invasion of netcom.general by a
mentally-deranged alien from cyberspace, who is unable to compose himself
(which, incidentally, is a prerequisite for composing a piece of music).
If you cannot stick to this topic about the alien Strangelove, then feel
free to keep your big mouth shut.
As I recently advised NutLoose here in netcom.general:

A word to the wise is sufficient.
A thousand words to a fool are wasted.

Try to figure out which of these individuals you are. Really, John, it is
not all that difficult. I'll give you a little hint; count the number of
words!

Albert Silverman
(Al is in Wonderland!)

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William J. Evans

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slv...@netcom.com (Albert Silverman) wrote:
:But I'll tell you what, NutLoose. Why don't you pick up a copy of
:"Doctor" Strangelove's archives, which surely must be involved with music
:theory, in which I am sure you a real expert. So let's go over to
:rec.music.compose, where I will be delighted to discuss music theory with
:you ("on-topic" for that newsgroup) to your heart's content.

Don't bother. I've looked at a copy of the archives. I don't know
much about music, but my general impression is that Mr. Silverman in
indeed in Wonderland. He has an answer for everything, and will
continue to do so no matter what you say. His answers seem to me
to be far more obnoxious than called for. These two traits remind
us of previous Netcom folk. I need not name names.

YMMV, of course. Look at the archives and judge for yourself.

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Albert Silverman

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Aug 29, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/29/95
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In article <wjeDE2...@netcom.com>, William J. Evans <w...@acm.org> wrote:
>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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>slv...@netcom.com (Albert Silverman) wrote:
>:But I'll tell you what, NutLoose. Why don't you pick up a copy of
>:"Doctor" Strangelove's archives, which surely must be involved with music
>:theory, in which I am sure you a real expert. So let's go over to
>:rec.music.compose, where I will be delighted to discuss music theory with
>:you ("on-topic" for that newsgroup) to your heart's content.
>
>Don't bother. I've looked at a copy of the archives. I don't know
>much about music, but my general impression is that Mr. Silverman in
>indeed in Wonderland. He has an answer for everything, and will
>continue to do so no matter what you say. His answers seem to me
>to be far more obnoxious than called for. These two traits remind
>us of previous Netcom folk. I need not name names.

Well if you don't know much about music, then what the hell are you

posting about? It is folks like you that give this place such a bad name.

Speaking of a double set of values, I don't hear YOU yelling, screaming,

ranting, and raving about the mentally deranged "Doctor" Strangelove
posting to netcom.general, when he is not even a netcom customer.

I can only conclude that you are a fake, Billy boy!

Albert Silverman

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In article <untulisD...@netcom.com>,

Jason Untulis <unt...@netcom.com> wrote:
>Albert Silverman (slv...@netcom.com) wrote:
>: In article <41q9p5$9...@news.eecs.umich.edu>,
>: Matthew H. Fields <fie...@zip.eecs.umich.edu> wrote:
>: >
>: >You may be able to find them in alt.usenet.kooks now
>
>: I DO wish that we could keep such mentally deranged nuts from posting to
>: a newsgroup which is intended solely for the use of those who have Netcom
>: shell accounts.
>
>Don't worry, Al. If Matt couldn't post, I almost certainly would.

Yes, NutLoose, you undoubtedly would because you have the same type of
mentality as "Doctor" Strangelove, who of course has *NO BUSINESS*
posting in this newsgroup.

Netcom shell users have no interest in your juvenile, demented, postings.
You are a loser, as was demonstrated in your recent fiasco in
comp.sys.mac.apps. Now you want to carry your grudge over into
netcom.general.

But I'll tell you what, NutLoose. Why don't you pick up a copy of
"Doctor" Strangelove's archives, which surely must be involved with music
theory, in which I am sure you a real expert. So let's go over to
rec.music.compose, where I will be delighted to discuss music theory with
you ("on-topic" for that newsgroup) to your heart's content.

You can then show the world your depth of knowledge in music. I can't
wait. Just give the word and I'll meet you there. You put up the initial
post, and I will be glad to respond. Then I will have a few questions of
my own to ask. Answering them will be trivial--for YOU.

And finally, as I said recently (apparently you did not hear me):

A word to the wise is sufficient.
A thousand words to a fool are wasted.

William McHarg

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slv...@netcom.com (Albert Silverman) wrote:

>In article <wjeDE2...@netcom.com>, William J. Evans <w...@acm.org> wrote:
>>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>
>>=== Nothing above this line is part of the message. ===
>>
>>slv...@netcom.com (Albert Silverman) wrote:

>>:But I'll tell you what, NutLoose. Why don't you pick up a copy of


>>:"Doctor" Strangelove's archives, which surely must be involved with music
>>:theory, in which I am sure you a real expert. So let's go over to
>>:rec.music.compose, where I will be delighted to discuss music theory with
>>:you ("on-topic" for that newsgroup) to your heart's content.
>>

>>Don't bother. I've looked at a copy of the archives. I don't know
>>much about music, but my general impression is that Mr. Silverman in
>>indeed in Wonderland. He has an answer for everything, and will
>>continue to do so no matter what you say. His answers seem to me
>>to be far more obnoxious than called for. These two traits remind
>>us of previous Netcom folk. I need not name names.

>Well if you don't know much about music, then what the hell are you
>posting about? It is folks like you that give this place such a bad name.

>Speaking of a double set of values, I don't hear YOU yelling, screaming,
>ranting, and raving about the mentally deranged "Doctor" Strangelove
>posting to netcom.general, when he is not even a netcom customer.

>I can only conclude that you are a fake, Billy boy!

Yeah, I went and looked at them too. You are right Bill, he looks and
posts like a cross between a Keeganbot and BSW....

(Bill shudders and has to reach for a banana to steady himself....)

Of course the learned Silverman will probably have a scathing comeback
for me as well.....

Mac
William K. McHarg
______________________________________________________________

Tis not so wide as a churchdoor nor so deep as a well, but
twill suffice.


William J. Evans

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=== Nothing above this line is part of the message. ===

slv...@netcom.com (Albert Silverman) wrote:
:Well if you don't know much about music, then what the hell are you


:posting about? It is folks like you that give this place such a bad name.

Your original recent posts in netcom.general were not about music.


Others said, effectively, "See how obnoxious he is? If you want to
see more examples of his obnoxiosity, see ..."

So I looked at the archives not to check out the musical debate, but
the obnoxiosity level. You passed the test with flying colors.

:Speaking of a double set of values, I don't hear YOU yelling, screaming,


:ranting, and raving about the mentally deranged "Doctor" Strangelove
:posting to netcom.general, when he is not even a netcom customer.

That's because I didn't want to change the subject. We were talking


about you, not him. But you're right on that score. So:

Matthew: Get the hell out of netcom.general with this very
enlightening shit.

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John Davis

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William J. Evans (w...@netcom.com) wrote:

: slv...@netcom.com (Albert Silverman) wrote:
: :Well if you don't know much about music, then what the hell are you
: :posting about? It is folks like you that give this place such a bad name.

: Your original recent posts in netcom.general were not about music.
: Others said, effectively, "See how obnoxious he is? If you want to
: see more examples of his obnoxiosity, see ..."

: So I looked at the archives not to check out the musical debate, but
: the obnoxiosity level. You passed the test with flying colors.

: :Speaking of a double set of values, I don't hear YOU yelling, screaming,
: :ranting, and raving about the mentally deranged "Doctor" Strangelove
: :posting to netcom.general, when he is not even a netcom customer.

: That's because I didn't want to change the subject. We were talking
: about you, not him. But you're right on that score. So:

: Matthew: Get the hell out of netcom.general with this very
: enlightening shit.

Why, Bill, you greatly misunderstand poor Al. He's been invited to a

Bar-B-Q. They're going to have his favorite things, steak and corn on the
cob, and he can't find his teeth. He put them in the glass last night
and someone went and moved them on him. Why, it's enough to make a saint
grouchy.

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Jason Untulis

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Albert Silverman (slv...@netcom.com) wrote:
: In article <untulisD...@netcom.com>,

: Jason Untulis <unt...@netcom.com> wrote:
: >Albert Silverman (slv...@netcom.com) wrote:
: >: In article <41q9p5$9...@news.eecs.umich.edu>,
: >: Matthew H. Fields <fie...@zip.eecs.umich.edu> wrote:
: >: >
: >: >You may be able to find them in alt.usenet.kooks now
: >
: >: I DO wish that we could keep such mentally deranged nuts from posting to
: >: a newsgroup which is intended solely for the use of those who have Netcom
: >: shell accounts.
: >
: >Don't worry, Al. If Matt couldn't post, I almost certainly would.

: Yes, NutLoose, you undoubtedly would because you have the same type of
: mentality as "Doctor" Strangelove, who of course has *NO BUSINESS*
: posting in this newsgroup.

Al is correct about that Matt shouldn't be posting here. Amazing that Al can
actually make sense... sometimes...

: Netcom shell users have no interest in your juvenile, demented, postings.

: You are a loser, as was demonstrated in your recent fiasco in
: comp.sys.mac.apps. Now you want to carry your grudge over into
: netcom.general.

Bwhaaaaa!! How many people publically killfiled me, Al? No, I'm just
pointing out for the n.g. denizens your "kook"iness and that they should
take your posts with a grain of salt. Like when you went off on gerg when
he took you to task for not explaining the SD POP situation re: Kael's
reply.

[wow, even a little bit on-topic for n.g... 8-)]

: But I'll tell you what, NutLoose. Why don't you pick up a copy of

: "Doctor" Strangelove's archives, which surely must be involved with music
: theory, in which I am sure you a real expert.

No, Al, I'm not. I played trumpet through junior high. That's the extent
of my musical creativity. I certainly enjoy listening to music and
my minimal playing background helps in that appreciation. But, no, I
have little to no knowledge about musical theory. Do you see any posts
by me in the r.m.c spool?

Matt's archives, as they relate to music theory, pretty much go over my head.
But as the Swami said, they point to your kookiness.

: So let's go over to

: rec.music.compose, where I will be delighted to discuss music theory with
: you ("on-topic" for that newsgroup) to your heart's content.

I have very little desire to do so, considering I don't know squat about
music theory and I certainly don't *want* to have a discussion with you...
especially when you won't answer the points I bring up in countless articles
in c.s.m.a.

: You can then show the world your depth of knowledge in music. I can't

: wait. Just give the word and I'll meet you there. You put up the initial
: post, and I will be glad to respond. Then I will have a few questions of
: my own to ask. Answering them will be trivial--for YOU.

Have fun playing with yourself. I won't be joining you.


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In article <wmchargD...@netcom.com>,

William McHarg <wmc...@netcom.com> wrote:
>slv...@netcom.com (Albert Silverman) wrote:
>
>>In article <wjeDE2...@netcom.com>, William J. Evans <w...@acm.org> wrote:
>>>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>>
>>>=== Nothing above this line is part of the message. ===
>>>
>>>slv...@netcom.com (Albert Silverman) wrote:
>>>:But I'll tell you what, NutLoose. Why don't you pick up a copy of

>>>:"Doctor" Strangelove's archives, which surely must be involved with music
>>>:theory, in which I am sure you a real expert. So let's go over to

>>>:rec.music.compose, where I will be delighted to discuss music theory with
>>>:you ("on-topic" for that newsgroup) to your heart's content.
>>>
>>>Don't bother. I've looked at a copy of the archives. I don't know
>>>much about music, but my general impression is that Mr. Silverman in
>>>indeed in Wonderland. He has an answer for everything, and will
>>>continue to do so no matter what you say. His answers seem to me
>>>to be far more obnoxious than called for. These two traits remind
>>>us of previous Netcom folk. I need not name names.
>
>>Well if you don't know much about music, then what the hell are you
>>posting about? It is folks like you that give this place such a bad name.
>
>>Speaking of a double set of values, I don't hear YOU yelling, screaming,
>>ranting, and raving about the mentally deranged "Doctor" Strangelove
>>posting to netcom.general, when he is not even a netcom customer.
>
>>I can only conclude that you are a fake, Billy boy!
>
>Yeah, I went and looked at them too. You are right Bill, he looks and
>posts like a cross between a Keeganbot and BSW....
>
>(Bill shudders and has to reach for a banana to steady himself....)
>
>Of course the learned Silverman will probably have a scathing comeback
>for me as well.....

Why waste my breath on a hopeless case?

Albert Silverman

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How is it, NutLoose, than whenever you are invited to put up or shut up,

William McHarg

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w...@netcom.com (William J. Evans) wrote:

An incredibly long (for Bill Evans) post that was right on target.

Take a day off Bill, that post had enough for 15 one-liners.. :^)

John Davis

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Albert Silverman (slv...@netcom.com) wrote:
: In article <jrdavisD...@netcom.com>,
: John Davis <jrd...@netcom.com> wrote:
: >
: >Why, Bill, you greatly misunderstand poor Al. He's been invited to a
: >Bar-B-Q. They're going to have his favorite things, steak and corn on the
: >cob, and he can't find his teeth. He put them in the glass last night
: >and someone went and moved them on him. Why, it's enough to make a saint
: >grouchy.

: Some of us have been endowed with the ability to participate
: intelligently in a discussion in a newsgroup topic thread. For your
: information, this self-discipline is referred to as staying "on-topic."
: Unfortunately, those who are less endowed have no idea what staying
: within a discussion topic means, choosing instead to ramble on aimlessly,
: incoherently, and absurdly about anything and everything that might suit
: their fancy. By the way, John, how's the weather outside? Do you think
: that OJ is guilty? Is Clinton going to be reelected president? What is
: your assessment of Newt's book? Etc., etc., etc.

Why Al, does my suggestion that you resemble a toothless old fart with a
bad temper annoy you?

: Folks with such limited intelligence do not need designated newsgroups,

: with topics specific to each group. They are equally disposed to posting
: anything they wish in any newsgroup, or to posting any idea they wish in
: any discussion thread, whether or not it is relevant (look it up in the
: dictionary) to the topic being discussed. It also seems that such folks
: are highly disposed toward posting personal attacks, which have nothing
: to do with the topic of the discussion thread. Can you figure out to WHOM
: I am referring? Try real hard, John. You can do it. I know you can.

Any time I should happen to run across a thread in which you are holding
a discussion, rather than a self aggrandizing rant, I'll be happy to stay
on topic. In your case, I have little fear of that ever happening.

: Perhaps you will recall that, in a recent post, I took you to task for

: criticizing my criticism about Netcom's news service, and for pointing
: out that you do not understand the nature of the variations in news
: threading with different newsreaders. But instead of recognizing when
: Silence is Golden and pulling in your horns, you have now set out upon
: the same course taken by "Doctor" Strangelove. You seem intent upon
: exacting revenge for my exposing your lack of knowledge and your low
: standards for ISP performance. So, burning with desire to get that sweet
: revenge (just like NutLoose and "Doctor" Strangelove before you), you
: can't wait to return for another crack at the brass ring. Well, John,
: you're just not going to get that ring. Some people will NEVER learn.

You poor deluded soul. Your attempt to 'tag' me by your standards is
never going to work. You keep forgetting that everyone can read the whole
thread. The assertion of some fantasy on your part is just an
assertion. Calling me names or assigning motives to my actions that
correspond to your fantasies does not mean that I or anyone else will take
them seriously.

: For your information (surprise, surprise), the subject of this particular

: discussion thread is the invasion of netcom.general by a
: mentally-deranged alien from cyberspace, who is unable to compose himself
: (which, incidentally, is a prerequisite for composing a piece of music).
: If you cannot stick to this topic about the alien Strangelove, then feel
: free to keep your big mouth shut.
: As I recently advised NutLoose here in netcom.general:

No. The subject of this thread is your credibility. So far there seems
to be a consensus forming that you don't have any.

: A word to the wise is sufficient.


: A thousand words to a fool are wasted.

Lord knows it's true. But fortunately I am a patient man. I'll continue
to try and get through to you.

: Try to figure out which of these individuals you are. Really, John, it is

: not all that difficult. I'll give you a little hint; count the number of
: words!

Have no fear Al, I'm not having an identity crisis. Do you often imagine
that your problems are reflected in others.

William J. Evans

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slv...@netcom.com (Albert Silverman) wrote:
:Why waste my breath on a hopeless case?

Breathe more slowly. You'll type better.

Signatures Follow. (tm)

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William J. Evans

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slv...@netcom.com (Albert Silverman) wrote:
:In article <jrdavisD...@netcom.com>,


:John Davis <jrd...@netcom.com> wrote:
:>William J. Evans (w...@netcom.com) wrote:
:>
:>: slv...@netcom.com (Albert Silverman) wrote:
:>: :Well if you don't know much about music, then what the hell are you
:>: :posting about? It is folks like you that give this place such a bad name.
:>
:>: Your original recent posts in netcom.general were not about music.
:>: Others said, effectively, "See how obnoxious he is? If you want to
:>: see more examples of his obnoxiosity, see ..."
:>
:>: So I looked at the archives not to check out the musical debate, but
:>: the obnoxiosity level. You passed the test with flying colors.

[snip]

:>Why, Bill, you greatly misunderstand poor Al. He's been invited to a


:>Bar-B-Q. They're going to have his favorite things, steak and corn on the
:>cob, and he can't find his teeth. He put them in the glass last night
:>and someone went and moved them on him. Why, it's enough to make a saint
:>grouchy.
:
:Some of us have been endowed with the ability to participate
:intelligently in a discussion in a newsgroup topic thread. For your
:information, this self-discipline is referred to as staying "on-topic."
:Unfortunately, those who are less endowed have no idea what staying
:within a discussion topic means, choosing instead to ramble on aimlessly,
:incoherently, and absurdly about anything and everything that might suit
:their fancy.

[snip]

:For your information (surprise, surprise), the subject of this particular


:discussion thread is the invasion of netcom.general by a
:mentally-deranged alien from cyberspace, who is unable to compose himself
:(which, incidentally, is a prerequisite for composing a piece of music).
:If you cannot stick to this topic about the alien Strangelove, then feel
:free to keep your big mouth shut.

The Subject: line of this thread is (and has been for some time)
"slvrmn archives". As shown in one of the examples which I
include above, a major topic has been Mr. Silverman's posting style.

Mr. Davis has offered a (presumably) tongue-in-cheek explanation for
Mr. Silverman's hypothesized obnoxiosity.

Mr. Silverman has seen fit to adopt 5 topics in the 6 articles I've
seen by him so far on this thread:

Message-ID: <slvrmnD...@netcom.com>:
the quality of the posts of Mr. Fields

Message-ID: <slvrmnDE...@netcom.com>
the quality of the posts of Mr. Untulis

Message-ID: <slvrmnDE...@netcom.com>
the quality of the posts of yours truly

Message-ID: <slvrmnDE...@netcom.com>
the quality of the posts of Mr. McHarg

Message-ID: <slvrmnDE...@netcom.com>
the quality of the posts of Mr. Davis

Message-ID: <slvrmnDE...@netcom.com>
the quality of the posts of Mr. Untulis again

All the other 9 articles I've seen so far seem to have as their
topic the quality of the posts of Mr. Silverman, primarily as
reflected in the "slvrmn archives" to which the Subject: line
refers in all 15 posts.

The variation in topics in Mr. Silverman's contributions is not
necessarily bad. Even without changing the Subject: line, changing
the topic like this could be seen as a valid example of "topic drift",
a phenomenon which I would venture to guess occurs with great regularity
on newsgroups which feature freewheeling discussion.

So your topic drift is ok by me, Mr. Silverman. Even if Mr. Davis's
article had drifted off topic, why could you not extend to him a
generous portion of the same tolerance?

Signatures Follow. (tm)

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Matthew H. Fields

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What I can't figure out is why I get netcom.general in the first place,
and why I can post to it. Oops, perhaps somebody at netcom should consider
rmgrouping it and then re-newgrouping it as a moderated local newsgroup
rather than an unmoderated global one.

NB, Mr. Silverman, that the above paragraph is strictly _on_ the topic that
_you_ declared for this thread. Now go look at the _subject_ line. The
topic for this thread was slvrmn archives, where I'm doing you the favor of
making many of your most oft-reposted postings available for http.

Matt


Paul

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In article <424e5m$g...@news.eecs.umich.edu>
fie...@zip.eecs.umich.edu (Matthew H. Fields) uttered:

> What I can't figure out is why I get netcom.general in the first place,
> and why I can post to it. Oops, perhaps somebody at netcom should consider
> rmgrouping it and then re-newgrouping it as a moderated local newsgroup
> rather than an unmoderated global one.

Probably has to do with the fact that Netcom does not have an
active news admin. The key word here is active.

--
Paul McGoldrick prea...@netcom.com The road to wisdom
17252 Hawthorne Blvd., #440 CI$: 71254,254 is paved with
Torrance, CA 90504 -***- excess.


Jason Untulis

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In article <slvrmnDE...@netcom.com>, slv...@netcom.com (Albert
Silverman) wrote:

:How is it, NutLoose, than whenever you are invited to put up or shut up,

:it is ALWAYS the "shut up" option which you choose?

Just like you and ftp clients on the Mac.


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