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Azam

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Sep 12, 1986, 6:57:23 PM9/12/86
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The other day we were talking about mexican beers and I mentioned
"Carta Blanca". Not knowing what the name meant I asked one of my
co-workers. It was interesting to find that it meant blank message.
Theorizing on the name I suggested that it could represent anything
you want to convey to another person without having to blurt it
out. A message with a finesse, without assuming the other person
intelligent enough to understand it or not. By offering a CB to
someone you could be telling him/her something. Some people
disagreed with me saying that you don't have to philosophise on
everything, some things are just that, a name. I think that
statement is true but in this case it seems to be more than just a
name. Whoever came up with the interesting name must have given it
some thought. I made a comment that the title can be treated like
abstract art; different people will interpret it differently
depending on their viewpoint.

It is very easy to take an object/idea for its face value. The real
appreciation comes out of theorizing about the probable
interpretations/causes/(fill in your pick). You discover a new
form, a different perspective, on things that you take for granted,
or ignore as being 'just a name'. This is true for objects and
people equally. Understanding the real ideas behind an artists
work, what he/she wants to convey to the process. Just when you
think you know what she/he wants to convey, you come across a fact
which jolts the foundations of your understanding of his/her work.

Any experiences/ideas/additions on this thought process?

Z. Azam ihnp4!ihlpa

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Jamie Andrews

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Sep 14, 1986, 2:00:46 AM9/14/86
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[consider this as a Carta Blanca]

Theories: this almost incoherent article was posted to net.women
because either:

a) the poster is a woman
b) the poster knows one or more women
c) the poster used "he/she" in the article

...and to net.poems because either

a) the poster is or knows one or more poets
b) the article was in an extreme form of "blank verse"
c) the poster was under the influence of the beer of which
he/she speaks, and/or several other chemicals.

Please confirm or deny these theories in talk.philosophy.misc
which I don't read.

--Jamie.
...!seismo!ubc-vision!ubc-cs!andrews
"It's just a rumour that was spread around town"
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Art Winterbauer

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Sep 15, 1986, 12:22:25 AM9/15/86
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According to my Spanish Dictionary, "carta blanca" could also
mean "white letter" (letter, as in missive).


Art

cheryl

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Sep 15, 1986, 11:50:16 AM9/15/86
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In article <18...@ihlpa.UUCP> za...@ihlpa.UUCP (Azam) writes:
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> It is very easy to take an object/idea for its face value. The real
> appreciation comes out of theorizing about the probable
> interpretations/causes/(fill in your pick). You discover a new
> form, a different perspective, on things that you take for granted,
> or ignore as being 'just a name'. This is true for objects and
> people equally. Understanding the real ideas behind an artists
> work, what he/she wants to convey to the process. Just when you
> think you know what she/he wants to convey, you come across a fact
> which jolts the foundations of your understanding of his/her work.

> Any experiences/ideas/additions on this thought process?

Yes. The interpretation process can be taken to extremes. I recall
a Ken Nordine bit where a guy comes home from work to find a bag of
parsnips on the counter. He concludes that his wife thinks that he's
"snippy." The whole bit consists of his internal paranoic dialogue.
And the rooster, of course.

Cheryl

Jim Boland

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Sep 15, 1986, 2:27:52 PM9/15/86
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In article <18...@ihlpa.UUCP> za...@ihlpa.UUCP (Azam) writes:
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> The other day we were talking about mexican beers and I mentioned
> "Carta Blanca". Not knowing what the name meant I asked one of my
> co-workers. It was interesting to find that it meant blank message.

Why didn't you ask a coworker who knows spanish?????. It certainly doesn't
mean blank message.
Blanca is Spanish for white. I believe carta is the same in english so
Carta Blanca would mean "white card".

Terry Grevstad

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Sep 18, 1986, 11:44:58 AM9/18/86
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Isn't it virtually the same as the French ``carte blanche'', which
means literally ``blank document'', but is figuratively interpreted as
``full discretionary power.''


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Roy Smith

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Sep 19, 1986, 6:10:18 PM9/19/86
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In article <18...@ihlpa.UUCP> za...@ihlpa.UUCP (Azam) writes:
> The other day we were talking about mexican beers and I mentioned "Carta
> Blanca". [...] It was interesting to find that it meant blank message.

Close, but no cigar. The proper idiomatic translation is "White
Card". Just like the French "Carte Blanche". Ever wonder why there's a
credit card with that name?

In the old days of French Royalty (I guess were talking like the
17th or 18th century) the King would issue to his friends a document
identifying them as somebody who should be granted favors, right of
passage, etc. Sort of like diplomatic immunity. This document took the
form of a white card. Thus, saying "J Random Foobar has carte blanche in
this affair" is saying that you should give him whatever he asks for
because he is acting on the authority of the King.
--
Roy Smith, {allegra,philabs}!phri!roy
System Administrator, Public Health Research Institute
455 First Avenue, New York, NY 10016

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