What is Usenet?
Rachael Munns
at the moment. As I understand it, "Usenet" strictly refers only to the big8,
whereas the complete set of newsgroups is referred to as "netnews" or "news".
He says that times have changed, that Usenet swallowed up other networks
such as netnews and bitnet, and that the whole set of newsgroups is correctly
referred to as Usenet. He also says that the "What is Usenet" and "What is
Usenet: a second opinion" documents in news.announce.newusers support him.
Am I wrong? Is he wrong? Are we both wrong?
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Peter da Silva
Since Usenet II is part of the larget "netnews" world and is obviously not
part of "Usenet", I think the answer is possible.
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Bill Cole
(Rachael Munns) wrote:
>I'm engaged in a bit of a discussion over the correct definition of "Usenet"
>at the moment. As I understand it, "Usenet" strictly refers only to the big8,
>whereas the complete set of newsgroups is referred to as "netnews" or "news".
One rumor is that the originator of the term intended it to refer to all
groups.
That only bears any weight with me because I've never heard a counter-rumor.
>He says that times have changed, that Usenet swallowed up other networks
>such as netnews and bitnet, and that the whole set of newsgroups is correctly
>referred to as Usenet. He also says that the "What is Usenet" and "What is
>Usenet: a second opinion" documents in news.announce.newusers support him.
>
>Am I wrong? Is he wrong? Are we both wrong?
The wis and wis:2o documents lean towards his interpretation.
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Frisco Del Rosario
<r...@stanford.edu> wrote:
> I often refer to anything transported via NNTP as
> "Usenet"
Me, too.
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Wednesday
Frisco Del Rosario <catt...@best.com> wrote:
><r...@stanford.edu> wrote:
>> I often refer to anything transported via NNTP as
>> "Usenet"
>
>Me, too.
I flatly refuse to do that -- I catch myself using the term to refer to
alt.* as well as Big Eight, but then go home and spank myself afterwards.
Granted, these days I mostly just avoid talking to people who don't know
about the USENET (I also refuse to write it Usenet -- that seems like
a concession I would rather not make) or the USENET News about the whole
mess at all -- especially since I now work for a company that regards the
schlamozzle as the Internet Newsgroups Folder In Outlook...
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Melinda Shore
Russ Allbery <r...@stanford.edu> wrote:
>Wednesday <wedn...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes:
>> Granted, these days I mostly just avoid talking to people who don't know
>> about the USENET (I also refuse to write it Usenet -- that seems like a
>> concession I would rather not make)
While I don't think that it's the *law* or anything, most
old-timers go with "Usenet." 'Tain't an acronym, you
know. Jim Ellis said "Just don't call it 'netnews' - I
*hate* that."
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Wednesday
Russ Allbery <r...@stanford.edu> wrote:
>Wednesday <wedn...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes:
>> Granted, these days I mostly just avoid talking to people who don't know
>> about the USENET (I also refuse to write it Usenet -- that seems like a
>> concession I would rather not make)
>
>I just don't like all caps.
*shrug* I don't either, but half the time it makes sense:
"Internet newsgroups --"
"No, USENET!!"
Piers Cawley
> In article <cattekin-281...@cattekin.vip.best.com>,
> Frisco Del Rosario <catt...@best.com> wrote:
> ><r...@stanford.edu> wrote:
> >> I often refer to anything transported via NNTP as "Usenet"
> >
> >Me, too.
>
> I flatly refuse to do that -- I catch myself using the term to refer
> to alt.* as well as Big Eight,
Sometimes (at least at my house), known as the Humungous Nine.
> but then go home and spank myself afterwards.
Mmm... Spanking... Ah, sorry, where was I?
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Sheldon Gartner
>In article <ylzp98p...@windlord.stanford.edu>,
>Russ Allbery <r...@stanford.edu> wrote:
>>Wednesday <wedn...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes:
>>> Granted, these days I mostly just avoid talking to people who don't know
>>> about the USENET (I also refuse to write it Usenet -- that seems like a
>>> concession I would rather not make)
>>I just don't like all caps.
>
>While I don't think that it's the *law* or anything, most
>old-timers go with "Usenet." 'Tain't an acronym, you
>know. Jim Ellis said "Just don't call it 'netnews' - I
>*hate* that."
Back at JMU, _everyone_ called Usenet "netnews." It wasn't until I'd
been posting a while that I discovered it was called something else.
Why call it "news" at all?
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Jeremy
> Back at JMU, _everyone_ called Usenet "netnews." It wasn't until I'd
> been posting a while that I discovered it was called something else.
Well, that's shocking.
> Why call it "news" at all?
Because it's new.
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Dan Ritter
Well, because the first ancestors of the modern system were designed to
carry MOTD and similar "site news" information.
This quickly changed...
-dsr-
Jeremy
>>> Why call it "news" at all?
>>
>> Because it's new.
>
> Well, because the first ancestors of the modern system were designed to
> carry MOTD and similar "site news" information.
Well, okay, that too.
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