Trivial Pursuit error?
Marilyn Shelton
answer given was the Washington Senators. I am fairly certain that
the Senators went to Arlington, Texas and became the Texas Rangers.
If I am correct, was is the *right* answer?
Thanks.
Ohnsman
You're correct, but this shows how often the Senators moved around.
Bob Short, the long-hated villain in D.C., was responsible for one
move. The next trivia question is who is responsible for the other???
Greg Woods
Both answers are correct. There were *two* incarnations of the Senators;
one went to Minnesota, and the later one to Texas.
--Greg
Bill Hery
> > answer given was the Washington Senators. I am fairly certain that
> > the Senators went to Arlington, Texas and became the Texas Rangers.
> > If I am correct, was is the *right* answer?
>
>
But they weren't the same Senators. After the old Senators move to Minn.
a new team was formed and given the old name. The eventually moved to Texas.
Eric Mading
There were actually two Washington Senators baseball teams.
One of them was formed in 1961 when the original Senators moved to
Minnesota. That team moved to Texas to become the Rangers in 1972.
Mark L. Tompkins
> answer given was the Washington Senators. I am fairly certain that
> the Senators went to Arlington, Texas and became the Texas Rangers.
Both answers are correct. The Senators team that moved to Texas in the
early seventies was the second version of the Senators. The original
Senators did indeed move to Minneapolis in the early sixties and became
the Twins. The second version of the Senators, I believe, were part of
the American League expansion for the 1969 season, which also saw the birth
of the Kansas City Royals ( the A's moved to Oakland ) and the one year
version of the Seattle Pilots.
Mark
Shari Nelson
The Twins DID orignate in D.C. as the Wash. Senators. Calvin
Griffith, the Twins former owner moved them to the Twin Cities in
1961. The Twins went to the Series in 1965 and haven't been heard
from since!!!
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Keith Boucher
The original Washington Senators moved to Minnesota in 1961 and became
the Minnesota Twins. The AL expanded that year and franchises were awarded
to Washington and Los Angeles. The nickname for the Washington team was
the Senators. This team played in Washington from 1961 to 1971 and then
moved to Texas for the 1972 season and became the Texas Rangers.
In summary, the Minnesota Twins franchise played in Washington until the
final season in 1960. The Texas Rangers franchise played in Washington
from the first season of 1961 until the last season of 1971.
Kent E. Dietz
The original Washington Senators were owned by the Griffith family and
adopted son Calvin moved the team to Minnesota in the late 50's or
early 60's. The team was replaced with an expansion team called, oddly
enough, the Washington Senators. This team moved to Texas, in the early
70's, I believe. So, the trivial pursuit answer was correct.
There was a query on the net recently on the least talked about teams.
My nominee was the Twins, until this notice, which also disqualifies the
Rangers.
Finally, are there any "true" Twins fans out there. As opposed to the
fans that will jump on the bandwagon once the Twins start running away
with the AL East. Out here in Washington, we don't hear much about the
smaller market teams.
Kent E. Dietz
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Jim Nesheim
>
>.....
>
>Finally, are there any "true" Twins fans out there. As opposed to the
>fans that will jump on the bandwagon once the Twins start running away
>with the AL East. Out here in Washington, we don't hear much about the
>smaller market teams.
>
>Kent E. Dietz
>FutureNet Corp.
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Obviously, not a *true* Twins fan, as he doesn't even know what division
they're in!
Even if the Twins were in the AL East, how could they possibly 'run away'
from the Yankees ?!
:^>~
J Nesheim
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Susan Flynn
>the decline in importance of senators in the political process, the team
>be named the Washington Supreme Court Justices or the Washington Political
>Action Committees :-).
Its already been decided that when Washington gets another team they
will be called the Senators. While some cities do name their teams after their
most important featue, e.g. the Boston Red Socks, most cities don't. However, if
D.C. did it would be called something like the Lobyists or the Moles or the
President's wife or even perhaps the Photo Opportunists.
Open your season ticket account today.
M.McGowan
You probably saw lots of replies.
The Washington Senators (of Cal Griffith) went to Minnesota.
The Washington Senators (of Bob Short, coincidentally
of Minneapolis and truckin' fame) went to Texas, where this pundit
labeled them the Texas "Shorthorns", which they have been ever
since.
Up to date? By the way, the dates:
Griffith Senators -- '61
Shorthorns -- c. 70.
Real trivia, name a manager of the 'New' Washington
Senators.
A: Smailliw Det
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This is kind of a side question:
Didn't the Seattle Pilots leave Seattle in `70 also? Who
are they now?
kau...@uiucdcs.cs.uiuc.edu
> Even if the Twins were in the AL East, how could they possibly 'run away'
> from the Yankees ?!
One look at George? :-)
Yours for a Subway Series,
Ken Kaufman (uiucdcs!kaufman)
Chris Redmond
>
> Its already been decided that when Washington gets another team they
>will be called the Senators. While some cities do name their teams after their
>most important featue, e.g. the Boston Red Socks, most cities don't. However, if
>D.C. did it would be called something like the Lobyists or the Moles or the
>President's wife or even perhaps the Photo Opportunists.
>
How can this have been decided already? Surely it isn't even known who
would OWN the Washington franchise?
Would people on the net enjoy suggesting suitable names for teams in the
other cities which have been proposed for expansion -- including Denver,
Miami, Tampa, Vancouver, Indianapolis, Buffalo?
CAR
Pete Cottrell
> Real trivia, name a manager of the 'New' Washington
>Senators.
>
>A: Smailliw Det
Also Jim Lemon, who owned part of the club, and Gil Hodges, who
was traded to the Mets and eventually led them to their miracle
of 1969.
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If the Twins run away with the AL East, even I will jump on their
bandwagon!! A closer look will reveal that they reside in AL West
where any team can win it seems.
Meehan
> > Even if the Twins were in the AL East, how could they possibly 'run away'
> > from the Yankees ?!
>
> One look at George? :-)
>
> Yours for a Subway Series,
Not This Again!!!! The season hasn't even started!.
kau...@uiucdcs.cs.uiuc.edu
Why not? It's prediction time, right? And I am very tempted to pedict it this
year. Besides, what's the matter with non-offensively stating where my
loyalties lie?
On the subject of baseball, does anyone else think the AL West is going to have
a wild-and-wooly race? Post-series complacency may bring the Royals - whose
talent probably outclasses the rest of the division's - down a few games, and
thereby bring up-and-comers Minnesota, Oakland, and maybe even Seattle into
the race. Chicago ought to be solid, and California always finds a way to be
in it. Why, even the Rangers may finally be going in the right direction.
How's this for a more timely sign-off? :-)
Make the playoffs, Whalers!
Ken Kaufman (uiucdcs!kaufman)
Pete Cottrell
>This is kind of a side question:
>
>Didn't the Seattle Pilots leave Seattle in `70 also? Who
>are they now?
The Pilots played in Seattle in 1969 and became the Milwaukee Brewers
in time for the 1970 season.
GERAFFO
> This is kind of a side question:
>
> Didn't the Seattle Pilots leave Seattle in `70 also? Who
> are they now?
I believe they moved to Milwaukee and became the Brewers.
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Michael Lewis
> other cities which have been proposed for expansion -- including Denver,
> Miami, Tampa, Vancouver, Indianapolis, Buffalo?
>
> CAR
The name for the (hypothetical) Indianapolis franchise has already been
decided...the Indianapolis Arrows. There is a large group of (potential)
investors in place, and they made a strong pitch to Ueberroth. They will
have to build *another* new stadium, which seems kind of stupid since the
fabulous Hoosier Dome is only three or so years old...I think they built
it so it wouldn't meet Baseball guidelines on purpose, to further stimulate
the construction industry when a new one would be needed.
You can't blame them for being eager, though...the theft of the Colts brought
in a bonanza of economic stimuli.
By the way, are the Orioles looking for a new home? I'm sure that they would
be more enthusiastically received than even the Colts were...
Michael Lewis @ Purdue University
W. Jim Jordan
>other cities which have been proposed for expansion -- including Denver,
>Miami, Tampa, Vancouver, Indianapolis, Buffalo?
I would probably expect a Buffalo team to be called the Bills
(if St. Louis can have football and baseball teams with the same name, so can
Buffalo).
Now that the NASL is gone, the Vancouver Whitecaps is a possibility.
If Vancouver does get a franchise, their PCL club would probably be
forced to move, and so that name may be free for the taking... if
the Brewers let the club owners have it.
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Pete Cottrell
>By the way, are the Orioles looking for a new home? I'm sure that they would
>be more enthusiastically received than even the Colts were...
>
God, let's hope not. I've already been through too much trauma of having teams
move. The O's have been setting team attendance records, drawing 2+ million the
last several years.
Frank Adams
A recent posting (referring to the Vancouver Whitecaps) led me to realize
that I have never seen a list of team nicknames for minor league clubs.
Does anyone have such a list?
Please post only if you have a relatively complete list. Otherwise, if
people send me what they know, I while post a summary at some later date.
(By the way, I believe the Louisville team is called the Sluggers, so don't
bother giving me that one.)
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Martin Klamen
> >other cities which have been proposed for expansion -- including Denver,
> >Miami, Tampa, Vancouver, Indianapolis, Buffalo?
>
> I would probably expect a Buffalo team to be called the Bills
> (if St. Louis can have football and baseball teams with the same name, so can
> Buffalo).
I usually don't like to nit-pick, but I'd just like to straighten out a
mistake that many non-St. Louisans seem to make:
The fact that St. Louis has two "Cardinal" teams is nothing more than
coincidence. The St. Louis baseball Cardinals have been in St. Louis from the time the
the time that team first began playing (late 19th or very early 20th century).
The football Cardinals, on the other hand, have only been in St. Louis
since 1960; they moved there from Chicago, where they were known as the
Chicago Cardinals.