Shoeless Joe Jackson

Chris Redmond

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Mar 1, 1986, 1:51:32 PM3/1/86

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What is the opinion of people on the net about the traditional
question: should Shoeless Joe Jackson be forgiven for whatever
part he had in the Black Sox scandal, and admitted to the Hall
of Fame in recognition of his otherwise magnificent career?

Has his reputation changed in recent years, especially since
the publication of W. P. Kinsella's novel Shoeless Joe?

If people have comments please post them; if people simply
want to say Yes or No and send their votes to me by e-mail
I will post the results (if any).

Chris

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dnichols@ti-csl

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Mar 6, 1986, 11:02:00 AM3/6/86

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A definite YES for reinstating Joe Jackson and thereby
making him eligible for the Hall of Fame. All one has to
do is look at his performance in the 1919 Series to see
that he did nothing to try to throw any games. Eliot Asinof's
"Eight Men Out" provides a very good history of the Black Sox
Scandal and the various players parts in it. I believe some
of Jackson's descendant's (his son?) having been trying
unsuccessfully to have him reinstated for some time.

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William L. Rupp

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Mar 6, 1986, 1:29:03 PM3/6/86

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I think that Shoeless Joe Jackson should be included in the Hall of Fame, even
if in a special `purgatory wing'. A couple of comments. First, will Dave
Parker, Keith Hernandez and others who have been accused of drug problems be
barred because of those troubles? Second, a recent inductee (is that the
right word) to the Hall of Fame has been accused of racism for his outrageous
treatment of Jackie Robinson in 1947, including attempting deliberately
to spike and seriously wound Robinson. That didn't keep him out.

On the other hand, Jackson's early banning from baseball clearly helped keep
his lifetime batting average higher than it probably would have been had he
played five or six more years.

Tom O`Connor

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Mar 9, 1986, 7:36:30 PM3/9/86

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> I think that Shoeless Joe Jackson should be included in the Hall of Fame.

> Second, a recent inductee (is that the right word) to the Hall of Fame
> has been accused of racism for his outrageous
> treatment of Jackie Robinson in 1947, including attempting deliberately
> to spike and seriously wound Robinson. That didn't keep him out.
>

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Sorry, but throwing the World Series is a bit different than being
a racist. If they banned racists from the Hall of Fame, many of the
founding fathers and early superstars (Anson and Cobb, to name just
2) wouldn`t be in there. Jackson was an naive southerner, and
though a tremendous player, got involved with something he should
have known was wrong, and I can`t support his induction.

By the by, for a GREAT book on the 1919 Black Sox, I strongly
recommened "Eight Men Out". I`ve read it 3 times, and still
pick up little details and get very involvled with the book.

Tom O`Connor

Paul Benjamin

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Mar 11, 1986, 9:37:39 AM3/11/86

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> By the by, for a GREAT book on the 1919 Black Sox, I strongly

> recommend "Eight Men Out". I`ve read it 3 times, and still

> pick up little details and get very involvled with the book.
>
> Tom O`Connor

Sounds interesting. Who are the author and publisher?