Short Men
Bob Paveleck
in SOs and how people deal with them. This has reminded me of another
observation I've made on height attitudes (particularly, attitudes
women have toward shorter men).
I have found that quite a few women, even those who aren't exceptionally
tall, will reject shorter men right off the bat. Although I can see
why a great height disparity would be uncomfortable for both parties,
I don't understand why, for example, a 5'4" woman would refuse to date
a 5'5" man. I can speak from experience on this, as I'm only 5'5" and
I've had it happen to me.
I'm not saying that people should change their concept of what's
attractive in members of the appropriate sex, but I'm surprised that
the "tall, dark and handsome" man is still the only one considered
by many women (even those who would be considered petite). What's
the problem if the two people are fairly close together in height?
Are shorter men considered less masculine (however you choose to define
that term) than the "tall, dark and handsome" group? What else can
a shorter guy do to make up for his lack of height (assuming that he
is just as clean, pleasant, intelligent, polite, etc. as a 6-footer)?
Maybe you folks can come up with some thoughts on this observation
of mine for future discussion here.
Bob Paveleck
ihlpl!paveleck
P.CARSTENSEN
were insecure about their height and therefore too aggressive...
and she couldn't tell if they liked HER or just figured she was "safe"
to sk because she was short....
I like personally like tall men (optimally just tall enough that
my shoulder just fits under his when we walk arm in arm....)
partly because of irrational culturing, I suppose, and partly
because members of my family are large enough that I have a strange
perception of "normal height"
Patty
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>><<>><< A (short) woman told me she never dated short men because they
>><<>><< were insecure about their height and therefore too aggressive...
>><<>><< and she couldn't tell if they liked HER or just figured she was "safe"
>><<>><< to sk because she was short....
>><<>><<
>><<>><< I like personally like tall men (optimally just tall enough that
>><<>><< my shoulder just fits under his when we walk arm in arm....)
>><<>><< partly because of irrational culturing, I suppose, and partly
>><<>><< because members of my family are large enough that I have a strange
>><<>><< perception of "normal height"
>><<>><< Patty
>><<>><< --
Patty is that with or without heels
8<)
paul
marie desjardins
> I'm not saying that people should change their concept of what's
> attractive in members of the appropriate sex, but I'm surprised that
> the "tall, dark and handsome" man is still the only one considered
> by many women (even those who would be considered petite). What's
> the problem if the two people are fairly close together in height?
First of all, my husband and I are almost exactly the same height
(one or the other is a tiny bit taller, depending on whether or
not I'm wearing heels), and if you ask me, it makes for prime
cuddling. However, I used to always be attracted to taller men,
the taller the better. I'm fairly tall and for a while felt
somewhat awkward (since I grew very quickly -- for the longest time
I was the shortest kid in the class, and then all of a sudden I
was practically the tallest girl in the school [even though I'm
only 5'7"]). So I felt more comfortable around people who were
taller than me, since I was used to being short. But I think
all women are told they should be able to "look up to" their SO,
both intellectually and physically. I happen not to agree with
this (anymore), but I think many women can't get rid of the
idea (especially younger women, college age or thereabouts).
marie desjardins park
Dana S. Nau
> ... Are shorter men considered less masculine ... ?
Seems to me I heard somewhere that in every presidential election except for
one or two, the taller man one. Can anyone confirm this?
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James Carrington
>Seems to me I heard somewhere that in every presidential election except for
>one or two, the taller man one. Can anyone confirm this?
The only shorter man to win a presidential election this century is
Jimmy Carter (5'10" vs Ford's 6'something").
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William Ingogly
>I have found that quite a few women, even those who aren't exceptionally
>tall, will reject shorter men right off the bat. Although I can see
>why a great height disparity would be uncomfortable for both parties,
>...
>I'm not saying that people should change their concept of what's
>attractive in members of the appropriate sex, but I'm surprised that
>the "tall, dark and handsome" man is still the only one considered
>by many women (even those who would be considered petite). What's
>the problem if the two people are fairly close together in height?
>Are shorter men considered less masculine (however you choose to define
>that term) than the "tall, dark and handsome" group? ...
I've known tall men/women who were attracted to tall women/men and tall
men/women who were attracted to short women/men. I've also known a lot
of people who could give a hoot about the height of their partners. We
all have a tendency to generalize from our own experiences, but I
think that making assumptions about our desireability based on certain
physical characteristics can lead us to approach encounters with
potential new friends/lovers in a nonproductive way. Listen to Joe,
who's 5'4" in his platform shoes:
"Gee, I went after tall women for six months, and got shot down every
time. Then I decided to go for women my own height and didn't have any
better luck. Maybe most women just don't like short guys."
Joe doesn't realize that the women he's met are uncomfortable when he
asks them out because he projects his own discomfort as he 'pops the
question.' If you think you're undesireable you ARE undesireable.
>a shorter guy do to make up for his lack of height (assuming that he
>is just as clean, pleasant, intelligent, polite, etc. as a 6-footer)?
You don't "make up" for what you are. The first step toward meeting
people and forming close bonds with them is to decide that you LIKE
YOURSELF the way you are, and that you're your own best friend. If you
approach life with that attitude you'll project a positive fun
attitude to those around you and realize that people like to spend
time with you because you're fun to be around or interesting to talk
to, and not because you're built like Arnold Schwarzenegger or tall and
handsome like Warren Beatty or play the guitar like Eddie Van Halen
:-).
-- Cheers, Bill Ingogly