Our 'Common Religious Heritage'

[gib...@trwrb.uucp]

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> I'm new to this newsgroup, but I must say that it's more
> entertaining than net.jokes. (What isn't?) I especially
> like the times when someone makes an outrageous remark
> in support of a(n unpopular) position and 80 others jump on
> it with both feet. It's even better when it degrades to
> name calling.
>
I agree.
I believe it is useless to argue on matters of faith.
I think it is funny when a christian states something is not "logical"
or that something is "logical".
Ultimately, the Christian arguement is based upon Faith.
However, all Laws of the Universe work independently of Faith.
That means, if one has to have faith for it to work then it is not
based upon the Laws of the Universe. I submit most religions, including
christianity are not based upon the Laws of the Universe and are therefore
FALSE religions.

I think it is ironic that the evil god people have the same God concept
that the good god people have. i.e. One god, human like qualities,
all powerful, mysterious, etc.

Since I believe this "model" of god is incorrect, I usually think
both sides of the evil vs. good god arguement are wrong.

This simply "model" of god is an insult to god. The Bible is an insult to
god. God is the Universe, yet the Bible has limited Universal application.

[Wayne Cook]

> or that something is "logical".
> Ultimately, the Christian arguement is based upon Faith.
> However, all Laws of the Universe work independently of Faith.
> That means, if one has to have faith for it to work then it is not
> based upon the Laws of the Universe. I submit most religions, including
> christianity are not based upon the Laws of the Universe and are therefore

In case you are interested, all Faith is is a believe in something without
"pure knowledge." For example, when you get on a plane do you know that it
is going to land safely at your destination? If you do not, then do you have
"faith" that it will? When certain "great" experiments of science were
performed, did the experimenters know what the results would be? Or did they
have "faith" that they would find the truth. We all try to gain as much
knowledge as we can, the Bible does encourage us to gain knowledge. But we
all need faith in order to make it through each day.

[Paul Zimmerman]

In article <12...@trwrb.UUCP>, gib...@trwrb.UUCP (Gregory S. Gibson) writes:
> I think it is ironic that the evil god people have the same God concept
> that the good god people have. i.e. One god, human like qualities,
> all powerful, mysterious, etc.

I don't see it as irony. I see it as a sign that, despite all the
handwaving and roundabout assertions made by those who believe in God as good,
we ARE talking about the same God. I also see it as an indication that those
who hold the ``good God'' premise wind up showing themselves to be confused
and misled about the nature of God. They must go through contortions in
order to forcefit the premise that God is good into the reasoning (based on
the evidence, including the Bible itself), reasoning that consistently leads
to no other conclusion than God being evil. Unless, of course, these examples
of special pleading and circular reasoning are injected.
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Be well,

Paul Zimmerman (p...@mit-eddie.UUCP, p...@unirot.UUCP)