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Distributing CP/M sources

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William Swan

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Nov 5, 1986, 1:55:59 PM11/5/86
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There has been a small discussion about the future of source distribution
for various micros with the newsgroup reorganization. It appears that there
will not be a sources group that will accept CP/M software (the issue was
originally raised by PC users who will also be "abandoned").

One thought is that a mod.sources.cpm group could be created to take this
code. Another thought is that the SIMTEL20 archives, with their UUCP access
scheme, is adequate for the distribution of software, with announcements in
comp.os.cpm.

Any thoughts?

Comfy chair

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Nov 6, 1986, 11:12:40 AM11/6/86
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Perhaps we have something like Argonne's automatic archive retrieval
system. You can just send it mail and it sends the sources by return
mail. I can see problems with all those strange return addresses
though.

Ken

Tim Brengle

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Nov 6, 1986, 4:40:52 PM11/6/86
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While having the SIMTEL20 archives is a truly wonderful thing, it is less
than reliable for me. I have requested a couple of files as many as 3 times
(requests separated by at least a week) without getting any response from
them at all. Other files I have received parts 2 and 3 of three, and never
gotten part 1.

Maybe I am doing something wrong?

It would be very nice to have a *reliable* source...

Tim Brengle

Keith Petersen

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Nov 7, 1986, 1:20:12 AM11/7/86
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The source is only as reliable is the mail routes when using the
archive server. Host "seismo" has blocked any messages originating
from the server because they do not wish to handle the mail traffic it
generates. You must use a path other than seismo. Here are some
that work...

To obtain up to five files in a single request message by netmail from
the public domain archives kept on SIMTEL20.ARPA, send a message to:

ARCHIVE...@SIMTEL20.ARPA, or via uucp:
...!ucbvax!simtel20.arpa!archive-request
...!uw-beaver!simtel20.arpa!archive-request
...!decwrl!simtel20.arpa!archive-request
...!lll-crg!simtel20.arpa!archive-request

The message body must contain lines beginning with the keyword SEND,
one SEND line for each file requested. Case is not significant.

The general syntax of a SEND line is:

SEND format filename

In general, a filename consists of the following components:

device:<directory>file.type.generation

"device:" is usually PD:, and the combination of PD:<directory> is
expected unless an alias has been advertised of the form "alias:",
which takes the place of both device and directory fields. The
generation field may be left off and defaulted to the highest
generation number. "file.type" follows the usual filenaming
conventions.

In all formats listed below, if the file to be sent is larger than
55K, the file is sent in numbered parts. The parts must be
reassembled in order and edited to remove any headers, preface, and
trailers before the process can be reversed to reconstruct the
original file.

Allowable formats are:

SEND HELP
This file you are reading now.

SEND INFO
A detailed description of the SIMTEL20 Archives, which
includes this file, pointers to certain key files, and
descriptions of various file transfer programs and related
utilities.

SEND BOOTSTRAP
A brief quick reference listing of filenames of the key
utilities used to reconstruct files sent by the compression
and encoding techniques listed below.

SEND DIR filespec
This format returns a CRC list of the requested files, and is
the only format which allows wildcard filenames (but not
wildcard directory names). The list is sent as an ASCII text
file. The wildcard characters are "*" and "%". The asterisk
means any number of characters, while the percent sign means
exactly one character. Either or both may appear in any
combination in either or both the file or type fields, while
only the asterisk may appear in the generation field.

SEND RAW filename
If the file is ASCII, it is sent as-is, regardless of size.
This format is the least efficient over network and mail
gateway resources. Use this format only if you absolutely
must.

With the four formats listed below, if the file is ASCII and under 25k
characters, it is sent as-is, as if RAW format was requested. Binary
files are always processed according to the requested format.
However, a request for ARC or SQ processing of files with type .ARC,
.LBR, or .%Q% is ignored and the original file is either uuencoded or
hexified (if possible), according to the requested format. If the
file was not sent RAW, a short preface is inserted at the front of the
message describing the process actually taken and a CRC entry
describing the original file.

SEND ARE filename or SEND filename
The original file is made into a uuencoded ARC file.

SEND ARH filename
The original file is made into a hexified ARC file if the ARC
file is under 64K bytes long. Otherwise, an apology is
returned instead of the requested file.

SEND SQE filename
The original file is made into a uuencoded SQueezed file.

SEND SQH filename
The original file is made into a hexified SQueezed file if the
Squeezed file is under 64K bytes long. Otherwise, an apology
is returned instead of the requested file.

To get started in finding your way around the SIMTEL20 archives, send
another request: SEND INFO

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