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Fiorilla

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May 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/6/99
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I wonder if medicine, in this case Prednisolon and antibiotics, may have
sideffects for dogs?

My 11 year old Golden Retriever acts like he was 11 months....

Fiorilla

Hillary Gorman

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In <wDgY2.241$7I....@news1.online.no>,
Fiorilla <fior...@online.no> wrote:

*I wonder if medicine, in this case Prednisolon and antibiotics, may have
*sideffects for dogs?
*
*My 11 year old Golden Retriever acts like he was 11 months....

Antibiotic side effects vary depending on the antibiotic. Some of the
antibiotics may cause vomiting or diarrhea, some may cause skin disease,
some may cause allergic reaction..."antibiotic" isn't a useful description
of your pet's medicine, sorry.

Prednisolone has many side effects. Most common are polyuria and
polydipsia (urinating and drinking a lot), also polyphagia (eating a lot).
Some animals experience personality changes (some people experience
psychoses on this medication). But again, it does vary with the dose and
stuff.

Why is your pet on these medications?

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hillary gorman http://www.hillary.net in...@hillary.net
"uber vaccae in quattuor partes divisum est."
upenn school of vet med class of 2000

Hillary Gorman

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In <ucpY2.659$7I....@news1.online.no>,
Fiorilla <fior...@online.no> wrote:

*My dog has skin eruption on just one side of the belly. It has been there
*for some time, but it wasnt until february that he was really irritated by
*it. We have been seeing the Vet (two different offices) four times. They
*took samples, but they didnt find anything.

Hmmm. I'm curious about this. Did the vet give a diagnosis? Did s/he say
it was a staph pyoderma? Did they do skin scrapings, impression smears, or
fungal cultures?

*I changed his food, and now we have been to the Vet's again last friday. He
*has been on medication since saturday, but so far it has just gotten a
*little bit better. I can't see it on the rash, but he doesn't scratch (lick
*and bite) himself so much as he did last week.

So it's a pruritic (itchy) rash?
A food trial might be in order, although usually food allergies manifest
first with problems in the ears and the butt area.

*He has been very happy the past few days, and keep running around like he
*did when he was young. I am happy when my dog is happy, but I just wonder if
*this is because of the medication or the fact that the rash might not
*irritate him as much as before...?
*He is also very hungry. (He was given B-vitamine last friday, they told he
*could be "hungry")

The hunger is a standard side effect of prednisone/prednisolone. Increased
energy could also be due to the effects of pred -- if, for example, one
reason your dog wasn't running around as much as he used to was because of
some degenerative joint disease/inflamed joints/arthritis, then the pred
could decrease the inflammation and pain associated with that condition,
and cause the dog to be more active.

Tribrissen is a drug that has been around for a long time. I believe that
dogs with black and tan colorings are more likely to see side effects from
this drug (eg, dobermans, etc). Side effects include but may not be
limited to vomiting, diarrhea, fever...

Good luck with your dog!

Fiorilla

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May 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/7/99
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Hi Hillary!

Thanks for the answer.


My dog has skin eruption on just one side of the belly. It has been there

for some time, but it wasnt until february that he was really irritated by

it. We have been seeing the Vet (two different offices) four times. They

took samples, but they didnt find anything.

I changed his food, and now we have been to the Vet's again last friday. He

has been on medication since saturday, but so far it has just gotten a

little bit better. I can't see it on the rash, but he doesn't scratch (lick

and bite) himself so much as he did last week.

He has been very happy the past few days, and keep running around like he


did when he was young. I am happy when my dog is happy, but I just wonder if

this is because of the medication or the fact that the rash might not

irritate him as much as before...?

He is also very hungry. (He was given B-vitamine last friday, they told he

could be "hungry")

The antibiotics is Tribrissen.

Fiorilla
in Norway


Hillary Gorman skrev i meldingen ...


>In <wDgY2.241$7I....@news1.online.no>,
>Fiorilla <fior...@online.no> wrote:
>
>*I wonder if medicine, in this case Prednisolon and antibiotics, may have
>*sideffects for dogs?
>*
>*My 11 year old Golden Retriever acts like he was 11 months....
>
>Antibiotic side effects vary depending on the antibiotic. Some of the
>antibiotics may cause vomiting or diarrhea, some may cause skin disease,
>some may cause allergic reaction..."antibiotic" isn't a useful description
>of your pet's medicine, sorry.
>
>Prednisolone has many side effects. Most common are polyuria and
>polydipsia (urinating and drinking a lot), also polyphagia (eating a lot).
>Some animals experience personality changes (some people experience
>psychoses on this medication). But again, it does vary with the dose and
>stuff.
>
>Why is your pet on these medications?
>

Hillary Gorman

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May 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/7/99
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In <7gtb38$ssp$1...@nntp.Stanford.EDU>,
Kate Wrightson <ka...@eyrie.org> wrote:

*In article <slrn7j49ll....@manx.misty.com>,
*Hillary Gorman <hil...@hillary.net> wrote:
*
*>So it's a pruritic (itchy) rash?
*>A food trial might be in order, although usually food allergies manifest
*>first with problems in the ears and the butt area.
*
*Um. Our golden retriever/border collie has an obsession with her butt, both
*whacking it against things and constantly scratching and biting it. She also
*has those little cyst things that remind me of dog pimples. I hadn't ever
*thought of a food allergy until you said this; her coat has gotten kind of
*rough, too. She's nearly seven.

Well, it doesn't *have* to be a food allergy. It could be
behavioral/compulsive stuff, it could be flea allergy, atopy,
dermatophyte... But then again, it could be food allergy. You could ask
your vet about it.

Kate Wrightson

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May 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/7/99
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In article <slrn7j49ll....@manx.misty.com>,
Hillary Gorman <hil...@hillary.net> wrote:

>So it's a pruritic (itchy) rash?

>A food trial might be in order, although usually food allergies manifest

>first with problems in the ears and the butt area.

Um. Our golden retriever/border collie has an obsession with her butt, both


whacking it against things and constantly scratching and biting it. She also

has those little cyst things that remind me of dog pimples. I hadn't ever

thought of a food allergy until you said this; her coat has gotten kind of

rough, too. She's nearly seven.

Hmmmm.
--
___________________________________________________________________________
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Please do not mail me copies of material posted to newsgroups.

Fiorilla

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May 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/7/99
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Hi again Hillary!

I am so thankful for your answers!

The Vet didn't have a diagnosis for my dog. She said it might have been
something there to irritate the skin in the first place, but that he kept
licking and biting and now it might be the licking and biting that is
actually causing the rash.
The skin in just this side of the belly is all black. In the beginning it
was a mix with black and red "dots". And yes, it is itchy. I have to pay
attention to him all the time so that he doesnt make it worse by licking.

What is "staph pyoderma"? I can't find it in my dictionary. However, both
Vet's we saw, didn't know what it was. Tribrissen and Prednisolon was just
an idea to see if he stops the behavoir with licking/biting/scraching, and
that the medicine could help him no matter what it is.

The Vet did skin scrapings and took a sample with a piece of tape in the fur
on his neck. He was also given Imovec and I louse-washed him.
The scrapings/samples didn't show anything.
He was given Tribrissen in March, and had them for 3 weeks, but when we
stopped, the rash got worse.

Is this something that just happen to old dogs? He is 11 years old, but has
a good age apart from this.

Can a dog have new allergies this late in life?

I give him another type of food now, how long will it take to see changes if
the food was causing it?

This is a Golden Retriever, with no other "problems" than the typical
"waterallergy" that Retrievers use to get(don't know the name) if he goes to
have a swim in the river. This was something that started when he was 4-5
years old.

Fiorilla
in Norway

who wishes her dog could be on Prednisolone for a long time. It's fun to
have a "puppy" again! He is so full of energy...


Hillary Gorman skrev i meldingen ...

>In <ucpY2.659$7I....@news1.online.no>,
>Fiorilla <fior...@online.no> wrote:
>
>*My dog has skin eruption on just one side of the belly. It has been there
>*for some time, but it wasnt until february that he was really irritated by
>*it. We have been seeing the Vet (two different offices) four times. They
>*took samples, but they didnt find anything.
>
>Hmmm. I'm curious about this. Did the vet give a diagnosis? Did s/he say
>it was a staph pyoderma? Did they do skin scrapings, impression smears, or
>fungal cultures?
>

>*I changed his food, and now we have been to the Vet's again last friday.
He
>*has been on medication since saturday, but so far it has just gotten a
>*little bit better. I can't see it on the rash, but he doesn't scratch
(lick
>*and bite) himself so much as he did last week.


>
>So it's a pruritic (itchy) rash?
>A food trial might be in order, although usually food allergies manifest
>first with problems in the ears and the butt area.
>

>*He has been very happy the past few days, and keep running around like he
>*did when he was young. I am happy when my dog is happy, but I just wonder
if


>*this is because of the medication or the fact that the rash might not
>*irritate him as much as before...?
>*He is also very hungry. (He was given B-vitamine last friday, they told he
>*could be "hungry")
>
>The hunger is a standard side effect of prednisone/prednisolone. Increased
>energy could also be due to the effects of pred -- if, for example, one
>reason your dog wasn't running around as much as he used to was because of
>some degenerative joint disease/inflamed joints/arthritis, then the pred
>could decrease the inflammation and pain associated with that condition,
>and cause the dog to be more active.
>
>Tribrissen is a drug that has been around for a long time. I believe that
>dogs with black and tan colorings are more likely to see side effects from
>this drug (eg, dobermans, etc). Side effects include but may not be
>limited to vomiting, diarrhea, fever...
>
>Good luck with your dog!
>

Hillary Gorman

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May 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/7/99
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In <fbqY2.674$7I....@news1.online.no>,
Fiorilla <fior...@online.no> wrote:

*The Vet didn't have a diagnosis for my dog. She said it might have been
*something there to irritate the skin in the first place, but that he kept
*licking and biting and now it might be the licking and biting that is
*actually causing the rash.

Ah. That is often the case in an allergic dog - a dog with an allergy to
food, or to pollen from trees, weeds, grasses, or to sheep's wool or other
things it contacts in the environment. The skin becomes itchy but there
are no lesions, until the dog causes lesions by constant licking or
scratching.

*The skin in just this side of the belly is all black. In the beginning it
*was a mix with black and red "dots". And yes, it is itchy. I have to pay
*attention to him all the time so that he doesnt make it worse by licking.

Black? Hmmm. That doesn't sound like something I have seen.

*What is "staph pyoderma"? I can't find it in my dictionary. However, both

Staphylococcus intermedius is a common dog skin pathogen. It can cause
primary or secondary infections. If your vet gave you an antibiotic, it is
probably to treat a staph skin infection. Prednisone would cut down on the
inflammation and stop the itching, but would only be appropriate if the
infection is purely superficial, as it can interfere with the immune
response needed to fight a deeper skin infection.

*The Vet did skin scrapings and took a sample with a piece of tape in the fur
*on his neck. He was also given Imovec and I louse-washed him.
*The scrapings/samples didn't show anything.

Ah. So there are probably no mites there, which is good.

*He was given Tribrissen in March, and had them for 3 weeks, but when we
*stopped, the rash got worse.

Hmmm. Did it get better while he was taking the pills?

*Is this something that just happen to old dogs? He is 11 years old, but has
*a good age apart from this.

It could be due to a number of things...

*Can a dog have new allergies this late in life?

Yes, absolutely.

*I give him another type of food now, how long will it take to see changes if
*the food was causing it?

You'd have to switch him to a new food that didn't contain any of the same
ingredients as the old food, and feed him JUST THAT - no treats, no
flavored medication, JUST that food. Then you'd have to wait about 6-8
weeks to be sure.

*who wishes her dog could be on Prednisolone for a long time. It's fun to
*have a "puppy" again! He is so full of energy...

Long term prednisolone can cause diabetes and other problems, so it's not
the best idea. I hope your vet can help your dog feel better soon.

-h.

Fiorilla

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May 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/7/99
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Thank you so much, Hillary!

I'll just hope the new food and the medication will work.

:)))

Fiorilla


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