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Officer, arrest that man! He...he manipulated my emotions!!

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Dorothy Nelson

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Sep 16, 1986, 5:07:55 PM9/16/86
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In article <14...@mtx5a.UUCP> m...@mtx5a.UUCP (m.terribile) writes:
>In article <15...@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> somebody writes:
>> and I loathe any interference by the state with something as personal as the
>> emotions, including sexual arousal, engendered by whatever art one
>> freely decides to experience. And my intuition is that a society which
>> regards sexual arousal as less desirable than horror or fear, and
>> forbids works which evoke the former while protecting those which evoke
>> the latter two, is *sick*.
>
>What about a society that holds these things as so personal and private
>that the community has the right to say that people shall not gratuitously
>manipulate the feelings and physical reactions of others?
>
MARK!!! GOOD GOD, MARK, WHAT ARE YOU *SAYING*?
No, wait. You're right. There are all these people who obviously don't
know any better, and we have to protect them (poor wuzzums). Good Lord,
you're *so* right. Look at all these people being shamelessly stimulated
in the adrenal gland at amusement parks. And people pay *money* to
be thus gratuitously manipulated-- they *must* be brain dead, so the state
*must* step in to save their souls...
Thanks for making me see the light.

>
> from Mole End Mark Terribile

--cosmique muffin (dorothy)

SWManipulator seeks Large Law Book (for use as Meese-seeking projectile)

Dorothy Nelson

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Sep 22, 1986, 12:44:36 PM9/22/86
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In article <14...@mtx5a.UUCP> m...@mtx5a.UUCP (m.terribile) writes:
>
>But I do like your style -- it echoes that of another poster seen on certain
>other groups, an author with whom I have locked horns a few times (his
>choice!), an author who makes humor and deciBel level substitute for clear
>thought about facts and feelings. It's brilliant, in a Primitive sort of
>way. I'm amused by its presumption ;^}
>(no, I don't practice being condescending -- it's natural talent ...;-)
>--
>
Really? ...Gosh. And I thought you did it with mirrors.
Oh... you couldn't have... that implies a shiny chrome vibrator, don't it? B-)

Anyhow, this is *MY* last word on the subject. If *any* government officials
come to my door to take away my copy of "Lustful Weasels and the Lubrication
Sisters Do Planet Penis" they will become warmly acquainted with my
Bic Pocket Napalm Dispenser(tm).
"Nuf said."

> from Mole End Mark Terribile

--cosmique muffin (dorothy)

"Her turgid tentacles waved madly about my thromboscis, which was already
throbbing with the heady scent of Jovian carrot dung. Suddenly, though
I was holding back with every ounce of pervissimitude I possessed, my
bulging ganavston exploded into a bright, bright green-- her photoreceptors
greedily capturing every ray."

_Bounty on Beta Seven_ (Andromeda Press) Book banned, author executed


Mikki Barry

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Sep 23, 1986, 10:49:06 PM9/23/86
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In article <14...@mtx5a.UUCP> m...@mtx5a.UUCP (m.terribile) writes:

>>But I do like your style -- it echoes that of another poster seen on certain
>>other groups, an author with whom I have locked horns a few times (his
>>choice!), an author who makes humor and deciBel level substitute for clear
>>thought about facts and feelings. It's brilliant, in a Primitive sort of
>>way. I'm amused by its presumption ;^}
>>(no, I don't practice being condescending -- it's natural talent ...;-)

And who could Mark possibly be referring to? Does he eat cheeseburgers?

>Really? ...Gosh. And I thought you did it with mirrors.
>Oh... you couldn't have... that implies a shiny chrome vibrator, don't it? B-)

Chrome, Dorothy? I thought it was bronzed. In fact, I thought it used to
belong to a certain individual on the net who implies that the government
should control our "prurient interests" because it is obvious that *we*
can't. But he doesn't believe that other "manipulators of emotion", for
example, preachers on the 700 club who show pictures of starving kids and
ask for money, nor anti-abortion people who show pictures of chopped up
fetuses should be regulated in this way. Even though those preachers
bankrupt little old ladies, and those pictures incite people to throw bombs
at health clinics that may be performing abortions. Forgive me for bringing
up abortion in this group. It is not my intention to debate this issue.
I am just bringing up an example of "manipulative" behavior.

>Anyhow, this is *MY* last word on the subject. If *any* government officials
>come to my door to take away my copy of "Lustful Weasels and the Lubrication
>Sisters Do Planet Penis" they will become warmly acquainted with my
>Bic Pocket Napalm Dispenser(tm).
>"Nuf said."

I'm afraid it is not enough said. Nor will it be until people stop trying
to run our lives for us.

Mikki Barry

p.s. Where can I get that book?!?!?

m.terribile

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Sep 25, 1986, 12:14:44 AM9/25/86
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> >What about a society that holds these things as so personal and private
> >that the community has the right to say that people shall not gratuitously
> >manipulate the feelings and physical reactions of others?
> >
> No, wait. You're right. There are all these people who obviously don't
> know any better, and we have to protect them (poor wuzzums). Good Lord,
> you're *so* right. Look at all these people being shamelessly stimulated
> in the adrenal gland at amusement parks. And people pay *money* to
> be thus gratuitously manipulated...

> --cosmique muffin (dorothy)
> SWManipulator seeks Large Law Book (for use as Meese-seeking projectile)

We are not talking about amusement park thrills. We are talking about the
deepest, most pervasive, and least understood part of the human psyche, as
well as that segment of human behavior that is subject to apparently
arbitrary but also apparently vital regulation in every human culture, in
every religious system, and in the laws developed by every state (including
the English Common Law).

But I do like your style -- it echoes that of another poster seen on certain
other groups, an author with whom I have locked horns a few times (his
choice!), an author who makes humor and deciBel level substitute for clear
thought about facts and feelings. It's brilliant, in a Primitive sort of
way. I'm amused by its presumption ;^}
(no, I don't practice being condescending -- it's natural talent ...;-)

--

from Mole End Mark Terribile

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(Please mail to mtx5b!mat, NOT mtx5a!
mat, or to mtx5a!mtx5b!mat)
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m.terribile

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Sep 25, 1986, 2:09:06 AM9/25/86
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> >(no, I don't practice being condescending -- it's natural talent ...;-)
> >--
> Really? ...Gosh. And I thought you did it with mirrors.
> Oh... you couldn't have... that implies a shiny chrome vibrator, don't it? B-)
>
> Anyhow, this is *MY* last word on the subject. If *any* government officials
> come to my door to take away my copy of "Lustful Weasels and the Lubrication
> Sisters Do Planet Penis" they will become warmly acquainted with my
> Bic Pocket Napalm Dispenser(tm).
> "Nuf said."

You haven't been reading; the Supreme Court ruled that under no case may mere
possession of obscene matter be a punishable offense, whether that material
is legally obscene or not. On the other hand, your stockpile of 17 000
copies *might* be evidence of intent to distribute ...

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