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newspeak, innovative use of a term long abused. - offensive to you? Maybe - it could be, it could not be. You pays your money and you takes your chances. (rot 13)

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Michael Hermann

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Oct 5, 1986, 2:01:58 PM10/5/86
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V'ir bsgra gubhtug gung vg'f fgenatr ubj rkcerffvbaf hfrq va rirelqnl
ynathntr jrer bapr pbafvqrerq "va cbbe gnfgr"; V oryvrir vg vf gvzr gb oevat n
cnegvphyne grez gung unf ybat orra qbjapnfg naq orengrq (ol gur vzcrevnyvfg
qbtzn bs gur ratyvfu-grnpure ertvzr ;-) ), vagb gur yvtug bs qnl. Vg vf ybat
cnfg gur gvzr jura guvf jbeq fubhyq unir orra tvira gur shyy ceviryrtrf bs
orvat n erpbtavmrq zrzore bs gur ratyvfu ynathntr (gung'f gur fghss gung
jnf qrirybcrq va Oevgnva, ohg arire cebcreyl vzcyrzragrq va gur Fgngrf ;-)).
Bs pbhefr, lbh nyy xabj gur jbeq V ersre gb; V unir unq guvf cvrpr bs yvgrengher
ylvat nebhaq sbe n juvyr, naq V gubhtug vg qrzbafgengrf gur pnfr nccebcevngryl
rabhtu (fbeel, nhgube haxabja):


Grkg ortvaf...
Creuncf bar bs gur zbfg vagrerfgvat naq pbybheshy jbeqf va gur
ratyvfu ynathntr vf gur jbeq "shpx". Vg vf gur bar zntvpny jbeq juvpu ol
whfg vgf fbhaq pna qrfpevor cnva, cyrnfher, ungr naq ybir.

"Shpx" snyyf vagb znal tenzzngvpny pngrtbevrf. Vg pna or hfrq nf n
ireo obgu genafvgvir (Wbua shpxrq Znel) naq vagenafvgvir (Znel jnf shpxrq ol
Wbua). Vg pna or na npgvir ireo (Wbua ernyyl tvirf n shpx), be n cnffvir
ireo (Znel ernyyl qbrfa'g tvir n shpx), be n abha (Znel vf n svar shpx).
Vg pna or hfrq nf na nqwrpgvir (Znel vf shpxvat ornhgvshy). Vg fubhyq or
boivbhf abj gung gurer ner abg znal jbeqf nf irefngvyr nf "shpx".

Orfvqrf vgf frkhny pbaabgngvba, guvf ybiryl jbeq pna or hfrq gb
qrfpevor znal fvghngvbaf:

Senhq: V tbg shpxrq ol zl vafhenapr ntrag.
Qvfznl: Bu, shpx vg!
Ceboyrz: V thrff V'z shpxrq abj.
Ntterffvba: Shpx lbh.
Cnffvir: Shpx zr.
Pbashfvba: Jung gur shpx?
Qvssvphygl: V pna'g haqrefgnaq guvf shpxvat ohfvarff.
Qrfcnve: Shpxrq ntnva.
Cuvybfbcuvpny: Jub tvirf n shpx?
Eryvtvbhf: Ubyl Shpx.
Vapbzcrgrapr: Ur'f nyy shpxrq hc.
Ynmvarff: Ur whfg shpxf nobhg.
Qvfcyrnfher: Jung gur shpx vf tbvat ba?
Eroryyvba: Shpx bss!
Fhecevfr: Shpxvat Vaperqvoyr!

Vg pna or hfrq va qrfpevcgvir nangbzl
- Ur'f n shpxvat nffubyr.
Vg pna or hfrq gb gryy gvzr
- Vg'f svir shpxvat guvegl.
Vg pna or hfrq va ohfvarff
- Ubj qvq V trg guvf shpxvat wbo?
Vg pna or n cerqvpgvba
- Bu, jvyy V trg shpxrq.
Vg pna unir zngreany pbaabgngvbaf
- nf va "Zbgure Shpxre".
Vg pna or anhgvpny
- Shpx gur Nqzveny.
Vg pna or cbyvgvpny
- Shpx Erntna.
Vg pna bcra gur qbbe gb jbaqreshy eryngvbafuvcf
- "yrg'f shpx".
Vg pna or hfrq gb raunapr gur zrnavat bs n jbeq
- nf va Ornhgvshpxvatshy, Greshpxvatvsvp be Nofbshpxvatyhgryl.

Gur zvaq vf snveyl obttyrq ng gur znal znal perngvir hfrf. Ubj pbhyq
nalbar or bssraqrq jura lbh fnl "shpx"? Hfr vg va lbhe qnvyl fcrrpu! Vg nqqf
gb lbhe cerfgvtr.

Gbqnl gryy fbzrbar "Shpx Lbh".


Raq bs Genafzvffvba.


2
Zvxr Urezna

..!vuac4!nyoregn!pnytnel!ureznaa

Rinatryvfz (hasbeghangryl) Yvirf.


C.F. V'ir urneq gung shpx unq vgf bevtvaf va na nooerivngvba
hfrq va gur byq Oevgvfu yrtny flfgrz. Vg fgbbq sbe
fbzrguvat yvxr "Sbeavpngvba H... P... X...". V'ir
abg ubjrire orra noyr gb svaq n ersrerapr gb guvf
naljurer; vs fbzrbar xabjf bs fbzr qbphzragngvba ba
guvf, cyrnfr yrg zr va ba vg. Gunak.

Bill Kaufman

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Oct 6, 1986, 2:22:35 PM10/6/86
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In article <4...@vaxb.calgary.UUCP> her...@calgary.UUCP (Michael Hermann) writes:
> C.F. V'ir urneq gung shpx unq vgf bevtvaf va na nooerivngvba
> hfrq va gur byq Oevgvfu yrtny flfgrz. Vg fgbbq sbe
> fbzrguvat yvxr "Sbeavpngvba H... P... X...". V'ir
> abg ubjrire orra noyr gb svaq n ersrerapr gb guvf
> naljurer; vs fbzrbar xabjf bs fbzr qbphzragngvba ba
> guvf, cyrnfr yrg zr va ba vg. Gunak.

Gur cuenfr jnf "Sbeavpngvba Haqre gur Pbafrag bs gur Xvat," ohg, gung'f
abg vg. Gur jbeq pbzrf sebz gur Trezna, "sevpxra," juvpu (yvgrenyyl)
zrnaf, "gb eho," ohg unf orra hfrq sbe gur fnzr guvat.

Naq, abj, ab wbxr.

-Annoyingly,
Bilbo.
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Richard Fox

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Oct 7, 1986, 1:14:53 PM10/7/86
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It should also be noted that this magical word is a way to greet your friends
and this word is also used to rename the cities of this country.

As the lean singer from Twisted Sister used to say ( probably still does):

How the f*ck are you? Its nice to be back in San Di f*cking ego........

Bob Bickford

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Oct 12, 1986, 11:53:11 PM10/12/86
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WHAT line ea

The referenced article reproduces (!?) a dialogue about a certain
English slang word that needn't be repeated here, and says that the
author is unknown. Since I heard this dialogue almost verbatim in
1977 or '78 in Stockton, CA, I think I can confidently say that the
author was George Carlin. Oh, by the way, there was much more of the
same, all of it excellent and perceptive and incisive as Mr. Carlin
always was in his earlier days....

--
Robert Bickford {lll-crg,hplabs}!well!rab

Michael A. Thompson

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Oct 14, 1986, 2:26:48 PM10/14/86
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Va negvpyr <6...@avxr.HHPC> xnh...@bevba.HHPC (Ovyy Xnhszna) jevgrf:
>Va negvpyr <4...@inko.pnytnel.HHPC> ure...@pnytnel.HHPC (Zvpunry Ureznaa) jevgrf:

>> C.F. V'ir urneq gung shpx unq vgf bevtvaf va na nooerivngvba
>> hfrq va gur byq Oevgvfu yrtny flfgrz. Vg fgbbq sbe
>> fbzrguvat yvxr "Sbeavpngvba H... P... X...". V'ir
>> abg ubjrire orra noyr gb svaq n ersrerapr gb guvf
>> naljurer; vs fbzrbar xabjf bs fbzr qbphzragngvba ba
>> guvf, cyrnfr yrg zr va ba vg. Gunak.
>
>Gur cuenfr jnf "Sbeavpngvba Haqre gur Pbafrag bs gur Xvat," ohg, gung'f
>abg vg. Gur jbeq pbzrf sebz gur Trezna, "sevpxra," juvpu (yvgrenyyl)
>zrnaf, "gb eho," ohg unf orra hfrq sbe gur fnzr guvat.

Zl Nzrevpna Urevgntr Qvpgvbanel, yvfgf gur bevtva bs gur jbeq
gb or sebz na byq Trezna jbeq (V qba'g erzrzore jung jbeq va
cnegvphyne zl NUQ vf ng ubzr) gung zrnaf gb cybj be gb fbj frrq, V
nyjnlf sbhaq guvf engure shaal:

N: Jurer'f Wbr.
O: Bu ur'f bhg shpxvat va gur tneqra.(Cynagvat, trrm fbzr
crbcyr)
be
O: Bu ur'f bhg shpxvat gur onpx 40.(Cybjvat)

V unir nyfb purpx zl BRQ naq sbhaq gur jbeq shx nyfb
nccneragyl fcryg shpx juvpu vf n Zvqqyr Ratyvfu jbeq sbe gur
sberfnyr ba n obng.

Nabgure vagrerfgvat jbeq vf gur jbeq wnmm, juvpu bevtvanyyl unq
gur ebhtuyl gur fnzr zrnavat nf gur jbeq shpx qbrf abj. Nccneragyl
"wnmm" jnf cynlrq va gur oebguryf bs gur fbhgurea fgngrf fb gur
zhfvpvnaf pnzr gb or pnyyrq wnmm zhfvpvnaf (er jung gurve zhfvp jnf
nppbzcnalvat) naq fb wnmm zhfvp, nf sne nf V xabj gur grez wnmm vf
ab ybatre hfrq gb ersre gb gur npg bs frk. (tvirf n jubyr arj
zrnavat gb gur vqrn bs n wnmm srfgviny qbrfa'g vg)
--

Michael Thompson
CDN: thom...@cs.dal.ean
UUCP: ...{utcsri,garfield,dartvax}!thom...@dalcs.uucp

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