request for spoiler, re: fake amulets
Michael Stimac
retrieved the amulet, only to find out upon leaving the dungeon
that it was a cheap, imitation amulet, worth only a couple of Zorkmids.
No one offered any suggestions why this had happened. Since then,
rather, I have seen more discussion about going down to level 39
(via confusion, certain rings, and a scroll of teleportation),
killing the wizard and his dog, and thereby gaining the amulet.
I obtained my amulet by precisely this method. I know that amulets
obtained from a wishing wand are imitations, but everyone still
seems to think that the one from the Hound of Hell is the real McCoy.
Not so! At least not so under certain unknown conditions. My suspicions:
1) I had taken advantage of the postman. Maybe the game punishes the
player for this by making the real amulet into a fake ???
2) I had read a scroll of mapping to find the Wizard and his Hound.
In the middle of the moat I noticed an "@" which I did not go near.
It puzzled me, but I did not want to take a chance on some 39th level
shopkeeper doing me in after I had gotten what I thought was THE
amulet. Maybe this "@" character was the true key to the amulet?
Why would a shopkeeper be on level 39 in the middle of the wizards moat?
3) Maybe all the net chatter about the Wizard and his Hound is just
a red herring. Those who have REALLY won the game are just teasing
the rest of us???
I have not been able to get to level 39 without the postman to test
theory 1.
Can anyone shed some light on what happened to me? We have version 1.0.3,
on Berkeley 4.2. I am willing to accept any and all spoilers at this point.
Michael Stimac
Scott Stewart
>
> 1) I had taken advantage of the postman. Maybe the game punishes the
> player for this by making the real amulet into a fake ???
What or who is the postman?
Also, does anyone have a list of ':' commands?
Also Also, I recently had a strange thing happen to me. I read
a scroll of punishment but managed to not get the ball and chain
attached to me because I didn't have the strength to carry it.
(i.e. I got massage "But you can not carry anymore." Is this a
bug or a feature?
Also Also Also, what is a whistle good for? I now have three and
don't know why I should use them? (By the way, my dog was killed
on a higher level, and never seemed to respond to the whistle I
had then anyway.)
Also Also Also Also, I picked up a long sword that welded to my
hand. Is there anyway ot remove it? Does it affect my to hit
roll.?
Also Also Also Also Also, (the last Also), how can I get the
extra wish from a wand of wishing? And what is the corect name
for a ring of teleport control? I tried to wish for one, but got
a diamond ring instead. And how much energy (food units) does
wearing different rings use up?
The Ever Clumsy Gilgabit
Don Kneller%Langridge
>Several weeks ago I posted the outcome of a game in which I had
>retrieved the amulet, only to find out upon leaving the dungeon
>that it was a cheap, imitation amulet, worth only a couple of Zorkmids.
>
>No one offered any suggestions why this had happened. Since then,
>rather, I have seen more discussion about going down to level 39
>(via confusion, certain rings, and a scroll of teleportation),
>killing the wizard and his dog, and thereby gaining the amulet.
>
>I obtained my amulet by precisely this method. I know that amulets
>obtained from a wishing wand are imitations, but everyone still
>seems to think that the one from the Hound of Hell is the real McCoy.
>
>Not so! At least not so under certain unknown conditions. My suspicions:
>
>
>2) I had read a scroll of mapping to find the Wizard and his Hound.
>In the middle of the moat I noticed an "@" which I did not go near.
The '@' is the ghost of someone who died on level 39. On bones levels
with the amulet, the amulet is made fake in case the ghost was carrying
it. If you would have walked up to the next maze level you would have
seen another wizard's moat, with the true amulet.
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Don Kneller
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Robert Plamondon
PC-Hack is available on my bulletin board system, the Wyrld Wyrm BBS
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happy with. The file is in ARC format. ARC.EXE is also available on
the system, for those that don't have it.
I DON'T have source code on my system.
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Carl Greenberg
it, it's MINE!!!). There is the wizard down there inside his moat. He's
got his pet Hound of Hell with him. I take out my trusty wand of digging and
blast a hole in the centre of the room he's in (no doors, as I remember).
I then teleport over in front of the wizard and then proceed to dismember
him with a +3 crysknife and my 18/** strength. When the Wizard of Yendor
dies, I throw a tripe ration to the Hound of Hell and acquire the Amulet
without fighting the dog, too. I wonder how many points hack gives you if
you escape with around five dogs....
Maybe we should have a gold-to-gems scroll. That would be a nice
improvement. Also, I like the idea of a food preservation scroll, so that
you could carry a dead cockatrice around and touch monsters with it without
the thing decaying on you. And to stabilise a dead acid blob or two in case
of meeting a cockatrice...
Carl Greenberg
Mark Smith
> In article <6...@tymix.UUCP>, sti...@tymix.UUCP (Michael Stimac) writes:
> >
>
> Also Also Also, what is a whistle good for? I now have three and
> don't know why I should use them? (By the way, my dog was killed
> on a higher level, and never seemed to respond to the whistle I
> had then anyway.)
>
and wait for the dog to eventually show up. Feed him and repeat the
process until he becomes proficient. Good Luck!!
> Is there anyway ot remove it? Does it affect my to hit
> roll.?
You got hold of a cursed weapon which probably reduced your "to hit"
by at least one. A Remove Curse will take it right off. Also
engraving with your hands will disarm you of cursed weapons.
>
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ste...@dcl-cs.uucp
>retrieved the amulet, only to find out upon leaving the dungeon
>that it was a cheap, imitation amulet, worth only a couple of Zorkmids.
A wand of cancellation zapped over the Amulet will do this. I bet this is how
you killed the wizard! You probably entered the moat from the left rather
than from the right as I guess the wand of cancellation would have hit the hell
hound rather than the amulet had you not killed it first.
>No one offered any suggestions why this had happened. Since then,
>rather, I have seen more discussion about going down to level 39
Actually, as I said in a previous article, level 40 is the deepest. The amulet
will actually be created on any level between 30 and 40; depending on which of
these you entered first.
>1) I had taken advantage of the postman. Maybe the game punishes the
>player for this by making the real amulet into a fake ???
No. I presume you mean you sold a scroll of mail to the shopkeeper? If not,
nothing you do to the postmaster damages your chances.
>2) I had read a scroll of mapping to find the Wizard and his Hound.
You didn't *have* to.
>In the middle of the moat I noticed an "@" which I did not go near.
This is a bug. It doesn't happen on my version (1.0.3 on 4.2BSD on a VAX).
Maybe the game was corrupted?
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Stephen J. Muir
>In article <6...@tymix.UUCP>, sti...@tymix.UUCP (Michael Stimac) writes:
> Also, does anyone have a list of ':' commands?
pray:
immobilises you for 3 moves
dip:
only does anything when an arrow, dart, or crossbow bolt is dipped
into a potion of sickness -- the potion of sickness disappears and
the weapon becomes enchanted (+1 is added). This is a useful way
to detect potions of sickness!
> Also Also Also, what is a whistle good for? I now have three and
> don't know why I should use them? (By the way, my dog was killed
> on a higher level, and never seemed to respond to the whistle I
> had then anyway.)
Your dog is supposed to come to you when you whistle. A *magic* whistle will
teleport your dog(s) to you.
> Also Also Also Also, I picked up a long sword that welded to my
> hand. Is there anyway ot remove it? Does it affect my to hit
> roll.?
Read a scroll of remove curse, or attack a nymph.
> Also Also Also Also Also, (the last Also), how can I get the
> extra wish from a wand of wishing? And what is the corect name
> for a ring of teleport control? I tried to wish for one, but got
> a diamond ring instead. And how much energy (food units) does
> wearing different rings use up?
Keep zapping it. If it has zero charges left, you have a 1/121 chance of
getting the last charge, when the number of charges goes to -1! A ring uses up
1 extra move's worth every 20 moves (I think).
(hack 1.0.3)
Michiel Huisjes
>> don't know why I should use them? (By the way, my dog was killed
>> on a higher level, and never seemed to respond to the whistle I
>> had then anyway.)
>>
> Your dog must be trained to respond to the whistle. Blow the whistle
> and wait for the dog to eventually show up. Feed him and repeat the
> process until he becomes proficient. Good Luck!!
>
This is not true. There are two types of whistles. One which does nothing
(except waking monsters) and another which has an obvious effect (you will find
out). There is however a way to train your dog. You can throw away an arrow,
let your dog fetch it, throw it away again etc. The effect of this is that your
dog will stay closer to you for a certain amount of moves. When you have got
one or more tripe rations, he will stay closer to you as well.
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Michiel Huisjes. (hui...@ark.UUCP)
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