vegan pizza
Joonas Mäkinen
think the problem is that the other stuff dries and burns in the oven
without cheese. Calzone, however, shouldn't have that problem. Any
advice before I try that? I'm suspicious because every calzone I've
eaten has been filled with cheese.
- jma
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christian mock
Joonas Mäkinen <j...@one.sci.fi> wrote:
> I wonder if it's possible to make a pizza without any kind of cheese. I
> think the problem is that the other stuff dries and burns in the oven
> without cheese. Calzone, however, shouldn't have that problem. Any
I think so -- in most pizzerie, there's "marinara" on the menu, which
is with tomatoes and not much more -- and it's flat, not calzone.
The cheese doesn't keep the pizza from drying, it's the juice of the
smashed tomatoes that does it, at least for the kinds of pizza I eat
and make -- the cheese has kind of a "glue" function to keep all the
stuff on the pizza from moving around, so you'd probably want a
replacement that can do this (and provides taste -- I can't imagine
pizza without cheese).
ciao,
cm.
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Kirrily 'Skud' Robert
>
>I think so -- in most pizzerie, there's "marinara" on the menu, which
>is with tomatoes and not much more -- and it's flat, not calzone.
You're thinking of Margarita, which is tomatoes and oregano. Marinara
is seafood, as any fule no.
:)
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Rakel Igland Diesen
Kirrily 'Skud' Robert wrote:
> On 13 Nov 1998 08:16:05 GMT, christian mock <c...@tahina.priv.at> wrote:
> >
> >I think so -- in most pizzerie, there's "marinara" on the menu, which
> >is with tomatoes and not much more -- and it's flat, not calzone.
>
> You're thinking of Margarita, which is tomatoes and oregano. Marinara
> is seafood, as any fule no.
Sorry but you are wrong. In all my Italian cookbooks marinara is a
cheeseless pizza with tomatoes, garlic, oregano and olive oil (usually
there's also anchovy, but as vegetarians I guess we'll skip that).
Margarita is basically the same only with cheese.
When I've been in Italy I've been served several pizzas without cheese,
and also some without tomatoes, like potato, onion, rosemary and olive
oil-pizza (I can't remember the name of it) So I guess you can do almost
everything you want and still call it a pizza.
-Rakel
Kirrily 'Skud' Robert
That's odd; must be a regional thing. Here, marinara is very definitely
a seafood pizza, with various dead fishy things on it (shrimp, calimari,
etc). "Marinara" from the latin etc, "mare" meaning "sea".
Sorry to have put my foot in my mouth in a veg newsfroup, I'll take it
out and replace it with another drink instead :)
Later,
Rakel Igland Diesen
>
> >Kirrily 'Skud' Robert wrote:
> >
> >> On 13 Nov 1998 08:16:05 GMT, christian mock <c...@tahina.priv.at> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >I think so -- in most pizzerie, there's "marinara" on the menu, which
> >> >is with tomatoes and not much more -- and it's flat, not calzone.
> >>
> >> You're thinking of Margarita, which is tomatoes and oregano. Marinara
> >> is seafood, as any fule no.
> >
> >Sorry but you are wrong. In all my Italian cookbooks marinara is a
> >cheeseless pizza with tomatoes, garlic, oregano and olive oil (usually
> >there's also anchovy, but as vegetarians I guess we'll skip that).
> >Margarita is basically the same only with cheese.
> >When I've been in Italy I've been served several pizzas without cheese,
> >and also some without tomatoes, like potato, onion, rosemary and olive
> >oil-pizza (I can't remember the name of it) So I guess you can do almost
> >everything you want and still call it a pizza.
>
> That's odd; must be a regional thing. Here, marinara is very definitely
> a seafood pizza, with various dead fishy things on it (shrimp, calimari,
> etc). "Marinara" from the latin etc, "mare" meaning "sea".
>
> Later,
>
> K.
Well I suppose anchovy is seafood good enough to give the pizza a name
derived from "mare". This was what I saw sold as Marinara in Italy anyway.
When we're into latin: Margarita means pearl, and as far as I see there's no
pearls on it :-)
-rakel
Kirrily 'Skud' Robert
<r.i.d...@hfstud.uio.no> wrote:
>>
>> >Sorry but you are wrong. In all my Italian cookbooks marinara is a
>> >cheeseless pizza with tomatoes, garlic, oregano and olive oil (usually
>> >there's also anchovy, but as vegetarians I guess we'll skip that).
>> >Margarita is basically the same only with cheese.
>> >When I've been in Italy I've been served several pizzas without cheese,
>> >and also some without tomatoes, like potato, onion, rosemary and olive
>> >oil-pizza (I can't remember the name of it) So I guess you can do almost
>> >everything you want and still call it a pizza.
>>
>> That's odd; must be a regional thing. Here, marinara is very definitely
>> a seafood pizza, with various dead fishy things on it (shrimp, calimari,
>> etc). "Marinara" from the latin etc, "mare" meaning "sea".
>>
>> Later,
>>
>> K.
>
>Well I suppose anchovy is seafood good enough to give the pizza a name
>derived from "mare". This was what I saw sold as Marinara in Italy anyway.
>
>When we're into latin: Margarita means pearl, and as far as I see there's no
>pearls on it :-)
Whereas, OTOH, one sometimes find oysters on a marinara.
But I digress; time for another recipe.
This is one that the GF and I cooked last night, and which I'll admit
that I found quite odd. I'd be interested in suggestions to make it
nicer, though, if anyone's got any bright ideas. I'm not saying that
this one's not nice, just that it's a bit too rich and perhaps a little
sweet or something? I'm guessing that some white wine might just do
the trick. Pine nuts would probably also go nicely with it.
Pumpkin and Cinnamon Pasta
350g pumpkin, cubed
??? penne pasta (4 peoples' worth, anyway. 375g?)
250mL cream
25g butter
1 onion, finely chopped
2-3 cloves garlic
1tsp cinnamon
1/3 cup grated parmesan cheese
chives, chopped, for garnish
cracked pepper
salt
Cook pasta as normal. Microwave pumpkin for approx 5 minutes until
tender.
Meanwhile, saute garlic and onions in butter until onion is translucent.
Add cinnamon, stir for one minute, then add cream, honey, and pumpkin.
Mix through then season to taste. Add parmesan and stir until melted.
Tip over cooked pasta and mix through. Serve, garnished with chives.
Sigurd Urdahl
An idea -- if it's too rich -- might be to replace some or all of the
cream with sour cream.
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christian mock
Kirrily 'Skud' Robert <skud+...@netizen.com.au> wrote:
> >I think so -- in most pizzerie, there's "marinara" on the menu, which
> >is with tomatoes and not much more -- and it's flat, not calzone.
>
> You're thinking of Margarita, which is tomatoes and oregano. Marinara
> is seafood, as any fule no.
<nationalism>
Mi faccio spiegare le pizze da un' australiana? No!
</nationalism>
Nope, from my experience (i.e. Italy and Austria) Margherita is with
tomatoes, cheese and probably garlic, while Marinara is without cheese;
Seafood pizza is called "Frutti di mare" (surprise!).
References:
David Gerard
Joonas Mäkinen <j...@one.sci.fi> wrote:
:I wonder if it's possible to make a pizza without any kind of cheese. I
:think the problem is that the other stuff dries and burns in the oven
:without cheese. Calzone, however, shouldn't have that problem. Any
:advice before I try that? I'm suspicious because every calzone I've
:eaten has been filled with cheese.
Coupla years ago, one of my coworkers was vegetarian and another was
severely lactose-intolerant. Since all-nighters were the rule rather
than the exception, our favoured pizza place got very used to delivering
veggie pizzas with no cheese.
It works quite well if you've picked your toppings well. (Be sure to
get extra mushrooms.) The only problem is mechanical: the cheese acts
as glue, so without it everything else tends to fall off. You can't
eat them without a plate, really.
(One of the attractions of cheese is the natural MSG. But that's in
tomatoes, too.)
If someone can come up with something vegan that acts as a binding agent
for the other toppings, the vegan pizza will be complete.
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