really simple stuff...
Matt McLeod
carnivore (well... I generally just don't *do* vegetables).
I'm also more than a wee bit on the overweight side. General
observation seems to be that eating less of the meat and more
of the veg would be a Good Idea, but quite frankly I'm totally
clueless when it comes to veggies.
So I guess I'm looking for pointers to really simple stuff
which takes little prep time, but which tastes reasonably
good. Oh, and which doesn't involve anything tasting like
mungbeans -- never could stand 'em.
Throwing "reasonably filling" in there is probably asking
too much, from what the couple of vegetarians I know say
(they tend to be fairly hungry most of the time).
Ta.
Matt
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Josh Brandt
In article <slrn7qna6...@bannor.netizen.com.au>,
Matt McLeod <m...@labyrinth.net.au> wrote:
>I'm also more than a wee bit on the overweight side. General
>observation seems to be that eating less of the meat and more
>of the veg would be a Good Idea, but quite frankly I'm totally
>clueless when it comes to veggies.
I stopped eating meat entirely and lost about fifteen pounds... (Then I got
a deep fryer and gained it all back. Oops.)
>Throwing "reasonably filling" in there is probably asking
>too much, from what the couple of vegetarians I know say
>(they tend to be fairly hungry most of the time).
I don't know why... If you eat healthily, you shouldn't be...
Unfortunately, my cooking skills are too rusty for me to be much use. :(
Josh
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Matt McLeod
>
>In article <slrn7qna6...@bannor.netizen.com.au>,
>Matt McLeod <m...@labyrinth.net.au> wrote:
>
>>I'm also more than a wee bit on the overweight side. General
>>observation seems to be that eating less of the meat and more
>>of the veg would be a Good Idea, but quite frankly I'm totally
>>clueless when it comes to veggies.
>
>I stopped eating meat entirely and lost about fifteen pounds...
Without much change to the diet, I've been losing weight
slowly (had to go buy new clothes a few days ago, as most of
my old stuff had either fallen apart or had mysteriously
gotten too big), but, well, I'm inclined to the point of
view right now that speeding that up a bit might not be
an entirely bad move[0].
> (Then I got
>a deep fryer and gained it all back. Oops.)
I'm safe on that score, at least. Much rather eat pasta with
a creamy sauce... Which is probably just as bad. :-)
>>Throwing "reasonably filling" in there is probably asking
>>too much, from what the couple of vegetarians I know say
>>(they tend to be fairly hungry most of the time).
>
>I don't know why... If you eat healthily, you shouldn't be...
I don't know why, either. But it seems to be a common
theme. A lot of 'em seem to look lean and hungry.
Matt
[0] I have my reasons for being slightly impatient about this.
Mostly, I must admit, related to a certain b.l-w thread.
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Josh Brandt
In article <slrn7qm4u...@bannor.netizen.com.au>,
Matt McLeod <m...@labyrinth.net.au> wrote:
>Without much change to the diet, I've been losing weight
>slowly (had to go buy new clothes a few days ago, as most of
>my old stuff had either fallen apart or had mysteriously
>gotten too big), but, well, I'm inclined to the point of
>view right now that speeding that up a bit might not be
>an entirely bad move[0].
Well, that's a good thing. 8) Personally, about three or four weeks ago, I
decided to cut down on sodas and snacky stuff, and I've been losing about a
pound a week, without exercising or anything like that. I can sit and
program all day and go home and sit around all evening reading or (sigh)
gweeping, and still lose the gut. Yay!
>I don't know why, either. But it seems to be a common
>theme. A lot of 'em seem to look lean and hungry.
Probably they aren't getting enough protein... I've been eating rather
beanily, and I like well-cooked tofu and veggieburgers, so that helps.
One thing to do is to not think of foods like veggieburgers as meat
substitutes, but rather as proteiny things you eat on a bun, in a category
to themselves. Some of them are quite good, and will cut the amount of fat
and general caloricness of your intake by a startling amount. Can you get,
for example, Boca Burgers around where you live? They're pretty tasty--
especially the "touch of fresh garlic" flavor. (Really, they're more like
"doused in garlic, but still not enough for an actual garlic fan" flavor,
but there you are...)
Matt McLeod
>In article <slrn7qm4u...@bannor.netizen.com.au>,
>Matt McLeod <m...@labyrinth.net.au> wrote:
>>Without much change to the diet, I've been losing weight
>>slowly (had to go buy new clothes a few days ago, as most of
>>my old stuff had either fallen apart or had mysteriously
>>gotten too big), but, well, I'm inclined to the point of
>>view right now that speeding that up a bit might not be
>>an entirely bad move[0].
>
>Well, that's a good thing. 8) Personally, about three or four weeks ago, I
>decided to cut down on sodas and snacky stuff, and I've been losing about a
>pound a week, without exercising or anything like that. I can sit and
>program all day and go home and sit around all evening reading or (sigh)
>gweeping, and still lose the gut. Yay!
It's the walking to walk a couple of times a week, plus the regular
walks to the other office, which seem to make the difference. At
least so far.
For some reason (can't imagine why!) I have this sneaking suspicion
that cutting down on the junkfood and creamy pastas will also
help. Adding in some actual vegetable content beyond the odd
lettuce-leaf seems a reasonable idea, too.
>One thing to do is to not think of foods like veggieburgers as meat
>substitutes, but rather as proteiny things you eat on a bun, in a category
>to themselves. Some of them are quite good, and will cut the amount of fat
>and general caloricness of your intake by a startling amount. Can you get,
>for example, Boca Burgers around where you live? They're pretty tasty--
>especially the "touch of fresh garlic" flavor. (Really, they're more like
>"doused in garlic, but still not enough for an actual garlic fan" flavor,
>but there you are...)
I've no idea - would these normally be found in a regular
supermarket, or a specialty health-food store?
Oh, and would these normally be frozen, or otherwise?
(I did say I'm *completely* clueless about this stuff!)
Matt
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1 can steved tomatoes
Lightly saute in olive oil your preferred quantity of minced garlic,
fennel and thyme. (I prefer a heaping tablespoon of minced garlic from a
jar -- yes, I'm willing to burn in hell for the convenience -- and a pinch
of fennel and thyme.) Dump in the canned vegies. Simmer for however long.
(I've had good results with one hour, four hours, overnight in a slow
cooker, and everything in between.)
Yummy.
1 large white onion
1 medium bell pepper
Half a large green cabbage
Slice the onion as thinly as you can, and the bell pepper somewhat less
thinly. Saute the onion in butter, then add the bell pepper rings, then
when they're done throw in the cabbage, diced to about a thumb's width.
Cover with fresh pepper and the lid. Simmer for about half an hour.
Spicy.
Keep in mind, though, that weight-reduction diets typically result in
weight gain of about 5% in the long term (three years or so). I highly
recommend reading _Fat!So?_ before undertaking to hack your body's
parameters.
Ben
(say it loud, I'm fat and I'm proud)
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counter, I go, 'Yeah, gimme a regular.' 'Regular what?' '*Coffee*.'
'What flavor?' 'COFFEE flavored! I'll stick that menu right up your
ass, kid!' Menu! Coffee doesn't need a menu, it needs a CUP!" - Leary
Josh Brandt
In article <slrn7qm5u...@bannor.netizen.com.au>,
Matt McLeod <m...@labyrinth.net.au> wrote:
>It's the walking to walk a couple of times a week, plus the regular
>walks to the other office, which seem to make the difference. At
>least so far.
Oh yeah, that'd do it...
>For some reason (can't imagine why!) I have this sneaking suspicion
>that cutting down on the junkfood and creamy pastas will also
>help.
Huh. I can't see that having any effect, really. Gosh.
[veggieburgers]
>I've no idea - would these normally be found in a regular
>supermarket, or a specialty health-food store?
>
>Oh, and would these normally be frozen, or otherwise?
Around here, you can find Boca Burgers and Morningstar Farms stuff in normal
grocery stores. They may be near the produce section or in the frozen food
cases, near where prepared meals and frozen pancakes are. Maybe that'll
help?
Peter Maydell
>One thing to do is to not think of foods like veggieburgers as meat
>substitutes, but rather as proteiny things you eat on a bun,
Nod. I like those, and I'm a carnivore (more through laziness than
anything else). <fx: adds note to shopping list>
Peter Maydell
Kirrily 'Skud' Robert
>
>So I guess I'm looking for pointers to really simple stuff
>which takes little prep time, but which tastes reasonably
>good. Oh, and which doesn't involve anything tasting like
>mungbeans -- never could stand 'em.
>
>too much, from what the couple of vegetarians I know say
>(they tend to be fairly hungry most of the time).
OK, here's some ideas, from another carnivore-who-eats-vegie-food. None
of these require great cooking skill beyond the ability to chop vegies
up and tell when they're cooked. And it's hard to do either one wrong
-- in particular, cooking times on vegies are something you learn by
trial and error, and which vary according to personal taste. I've given
timing indications, but YMMV.
1. Pasta with vegies
Make a basic tomato-based sauce:
- chop some garlic and saute in a little olive oil
- ditto onions
- add a bottle of italian-style tomato sauce (usually on the
bottom shelf below the "Dolmio" and "Raguletto" crap in the
supermarket)
- add some fresh or dried oregano, basil, and/or parsley (you
can get a dried "italian herb mix" by masterfoods I think)
Then add random vegies and cook until cooked. My preferred vegies are:
- spinach (half a bunch; rinse in a colander and chop roughly
into approx inch-wide chunks
- mushrooms (sliced)
- zucchini (halved or quartered lengthways then sliced)
- broccoli (chopped into florets)
- eggplant (sliced into 1cm rounds, then into quarters or
smaller)
Make sure to add the longer-cooking vegies earlier - for instance,
eggplant/broccoli would need about 5-10 mins, mushrooms/zucchini 3-5,
spinach no time at all (just stir it through until it wilts).
Serve with freshly grated "grano padano" parmesan cheese (the city Coles
should have it). Never, ever buy parmesan that's pre-grated or square
in shape. Parmesan should be sliced off a big wheel, dammit!
2. Risotto
Basic risotto works like this:
Ingredients:
- 2 cups arborio rice (don't use normal rice, it sucks --
arborio can be found at any good supermarket)
- some white wine (about half a cup in theory - drink the rest
while you cook, as this is a fun way to spend an hour in the
kitchen)
- about 1L vegetable stock (get the maggi or continental UHT
packs)
- onion/garlic/spring onion
- random bits that you throw in
Method:
- put your stock in a small saucepan on the back burner -- you
want it to stay hot throughout this exercise.
- saute onion/garlic/spring onion in a little olive oil
- if you're using meat, saute it at this point too
- add rice and wine. Stir over low-ish heat until there's only
a tiny bit of visible liquid left.
- add stock progressively (half to a cup at a time), stirring
occasionally so that the rice doesn't stick to the bottom of
the pot.
- continue until the rice doesn't have a crunchy core -- this
should occur round about the end of your litre of stock. If
not, add water or wine until done.
- add random bits, serve.
The random bits can be:
- mushrooms (try to use the big flat ones, diced -- they have a
better taste than the normal ones)
- vegie chunks (zucchini, artichoke hearts, capsicum, fresh
roughly-chopped spinach, broccoli bits, pumpkin, whatever)
- semi-sundried tomatoes (chop roughly first)
- italian-style tomato sauce (as above in pasta recipe) -- half
a bottle in one batch of risotto is about right.
- fresh or dried herbs
- cheese (add this at the very end -- again, "grano padano"
parmesan is my favourite, but in theory you're meant to use
pecorino)
For variation, you can use other grains too. I quite like doing a
"multigrain" mushroom risotto, by using about 1/2 cup of brown rice,
some wild rice, and make up the difference to 2 cups with arborio. You
have to put the non-arborio stuff in first for about 20 minutes though,
as it needs much more softening.
3. Random mexican-style stuff
The base of this is a chilli type thing, which can be used in various
ways.
Ingredients:
- onions
- tinned tomatoes
- capsicums or peppers of your choice
- tinned kidney beans (or use dried ones, but that's not
anywhere near as quick and easy) Be sure to rinse them well;
there's weird slimy stuff in the tins :(
The way this works is that you saute the onions, add the tinned tomatoes
(roughly mushed up -- you can do this with the spoon in the pot, they
will disintegrate eventually) then add everything else and leave it on
the stove for quite a while (half an hour minimum, but anything up to a
day). Your aim is to end up with something that's not watery (which is
why using dried beans is good -- you just don't soak them quite enough,
and the last bit of soaking is done by the watery bits of the tomatoes
etc). If it's just not thickening up, throw in a handful of rice.
Anyway, you'll end up with a big potful of stuff which can be used to
make:
- nachos (take corn chips, grate cheese over, heat in oven (200c) or
microwave, put chilli stuff on top, optional sour cream and/or
guacamole, eat)
- burritos (buy burrito tortillas from supermarket, follow instructions
on packet)
- tacos (ditto)
- have it on rice or pasta or on toast (melted grated cheese on top is
really yummy -- I use standard supermarket tasty cheddar for this)
It freezes quite well.
4. Random thai-style curry thing
Ask me to show you the brand of thai curry paste I use, sometime. You
should be able to get it in the asian section of most supermarkets.
You need a wok for this.
Put the curry paste (one packet) in the wok on medium heat, possibly with
a very little amount of oil (depending mostly on the state of your wok).
Mush it around with a spoon or whatever until it's hot and is giving off
fumes that clear out your sinuses. Then *gradually* add 1-2 tins of
coconut milk. You'll want to add only a tiny trickle at first and mix
it in well, and work up to a smooth paste and from there to a creamy
sauce.
Then add random stuff and cook until cooked. Typical things I put in
include:
- pumpkin
- broccoli
- cauliflour
- snow peas
- carrot
- capsicum
- bamboo shoots
- green beans
- tofu (if you're not full-time vegie, you probably don't want to bother
with this. If you do, I'll show you the stuff to get sometime)
As with the pasta sauce, you'll want to put some things in earlier. For
instance, pumpkin/cauliflour/broccoli/carrot will take a while to cook
through (depending on size -- 5-10 mins should do if the pumpkin chunks
are cut smallish and the cauliflour and broccoli florets are small),
while things like snow peas, capsicum, etc only really need to be warmed
through (say 2-3 minutes max).
Serve with rice. Doesn't freeze very well, but is excellent for taking
to work for lunch.
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>>One thing to do is to not think of foods like veggieburgers as meat
>>to themselves. Some of them are quite good, and will cut the amount of fat
>>and general caloricness of your intake by a startling amount. Can you get,
>>for example, Boca Burgers around where you live? They're pretty tasty--
>>especially the "touch of fresh garlic" flavor. (Really, they're more like
>>"doused in garlic, but still not enough for an actual garlic fan" flavor,
>>but there you are...)
>
>supermarket, or a specialty health-food store?
>Oh, and would these normally be frozen, or otherwise?
They're normally in a part of the refrigerated section, often near the
cheese and/or packaged smallgoods. You'll find a range of soy-based
meat products, including the deeply odd "Not-Foo" range (eg "not-bacon",
"not-chicken", etc.)
I'm going to have to disagree about those kinds of proteiny foods,
though. IMHO, they're bloody awful and anyone who's getting protein
from elsewhere would do well to stay away from them.
K.
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or later you'll be asking intelligent ones. If you live long enough.
Kirrily 'Skud' Robert
>Keep in mind, though, that weight-reduction diets typically result in
>weight gain of about 5% in the long term (three years or so). I highly
>recommend reading _Fat!So?_ before undertaking to hack your body's
>parameters.
OTOH, deciding to eat vegies a bit more often (with the coincidental
side-effect of possible weight reduction) is a different matter. The
reason weight-reduction diets often don't work is that they fuck with
the metabolism, and/or induce binging behaviours.
K.
(who should know. Bah.)
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Matt McLeod
[veggieburger-like things]
>I'm going to have to disagree about those kinds of proteiny foods,
>though. IMHO, they're bloody awful and anyone who's getting protein
>from elsewhere would do well to stay away from them.
I'm thinking that I'll give 'em a try, and then probably steer
clear (never had them before, but the idea seems a bit weird).
I'm going to have to get a blender sometime. My sister does
an absolutely wonderful vegetable pie, but it requires a reasonably
equipped kitchen, which I don't have right now.
Oh, and thanks for the recipes - I'll give those a try.
Matt
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Matt McLeod
>>Keep in mind, though, that weight-reduction diets typically result in
>>weight gain of about 5% in the long term (three years or so). I highly
>>recommend reading _Fat!So?_ before undertaking to hack your body's
>>parameters.
>
>OTOH, deciding to eat vegies a bit more often (with the coincidental
>side-effect of possible weight reduction) is a different matter. The
>reason weight-reduction diets often don't work is that they fuck with
>the metabolism, and/or induce binging behaviours.
Yup. This is why I've simply ignored all the dieting stuff around,
and just gone with "hey, maybe if I walk some more, and maybe eat
a little better, I might just possibly lose some weight. I'll
sure feel better, anyway".
It's worked OK so far, but the "eat a little better" bit has been
done a bit half-heartedly.
Matt
--
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-- W. C. Fields
Josh Brandt
In article <slrn7qn3lp.o1...@hiro.netizen.com.au>,
Kirrily 'Skud' Robert <skud+...@netizen.com.au> wrote:
>I'm going to have to disagree about those kinds of proteiny foods,
>though. IMHO, they're bloody awful and anyone who's getting protein
>from elsewhere would do well to stay away from them.
I find it depends heavily on the brand of said fake-meatness. Morningstar
Farms tends to be decent. Boca Burgers are good. Green Giant things are
TERRIBLE. Yves Veggie luncheon "meats" are odd but tasty.
Don't expect them to be like real meaty things, and you'll be okay. Expect
them to be subtly different, and don't think of them as an exact substitute,
but rather as something similarly-shaped, for a similar kind of bun, and
you've got it.
Nile Evil Bastard
Matt McLeod <m...@labyrinth.net.au> wrote:
:I'm also more than a wee bit on the overweight side. General
:observation seems to be that eating less of the meat and more
:of the veg would be a Good Idea, but quite frankly I'm totally
:clueless when it comes to veggies.
:So I guess I'm looking for pointers to really simple stuff
:which takes little prep time, but which tastes reasonably
:good. Oh, and which doesn't involve anything tasting like
:mungbeans -- never could stand 'em.
:Throwing "reasonably filling" in there is probably asking
:too much, from what the couple of vegetarians I know say
:(they tend to be fairly hungry most of the time).
I useta write a column for the student newspaper at VUT called 'Depression
Cooking' that covered this topic: how to eat relatively well on a student
budget. Since such a budget makes one a financial vegetarian, most of the
stuff was indeed ... largely veggie.
Here's one that I've lived on for the past four years and only just gotten
sick of. It's incredibly forgiving, so feel free to tweak. Essentially,
it's pasta with veggie sludge sauce. The quantity below is so as to have
enough to microwave later, or for lunch.
Mushrooms. About 500 grams. Feel free to vary.
Tinned tomato. Crushed or chopped. One ~400g can.
Eggplant - about half a one.
Zucchini - one small one.
Capsicum - about half.
Chili to taste.
Garlic - a tablespoon or two of minced garlic. Get good stuff, not Savings
or Home Brand.
Vegetable stock cubes or powder - a third of a cube, or a coupla pinches of
the powder. This is the Sekrit Ingredient.
Pasta - half a 500g pack.
Chop up the veggies and chuck everything except the pasta into a saucepan.
Heat it and stir it while you boil the water for the pasta. Cook the pasta.
Put the sauce on the pasta. Grate some cheese on top (extra-tasty by
preference). Save leftover pasta and sauce for the next day's lunch and
possibly dinner.
As I said, I lived on the above for years. It sounds like you're at the
'student' stage of cooking and need to take this stuff slowly.
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Nile Evil Bastard
Matt McLeod <m...@labyrinth.net.au> wrote:
:Without much change to the diet, I've been losing weight
:slowly (had to go buy new clothes a few days ago, as most of
:my old stuff had either fallen apart or had mysteriously
:gotten too big), but, well, I'm inclined to the point of
:view right now that speeding that up a bit might not be
:an entirely bad move[0].
:[0] I have my reasons for being slightly impatient about this.
: Mostly, I must admit, related to a certain b.l-w thread.
You live in town and work in Carlton, right? Walk to work and back every
day. Your metabolism will increase, consuming more calories. Your general
fitness and health will improve. You will have a glow about you. This will
make you even more of a beardless sexule dynamo.
(I'm still wondering what you look like without a beard. Does the loss of
the beard mean you can't be a Unix guru any more?)
Dammit, Cleanfeed or something rejected this for the lack of a 4gh distro.
Second time today. I thot that was spose to happen automatically.
Nile Evil Bastard
Kirrily 'Skud' Robert <skud+...@netizen.com.au> wrote:
:I'm going to have to disagree about those kinds of proteiny foods,
:though. IMHO, they're bloody awful and anyone who's getting protein
:from elsewhere would do well to stay away from them.
YMMV. Living with Scarlet, I have days when I never want to see another
soybean product as long as I live. but some work quite well. If I gave you
a sample of the chili con TVP we had last night, I doubt you'd be
complaining.
OTOH, the soybean "ice-cream" she brought home last night is definitely a
candidate for Microsoft's food division.
Matt McLeod
>On 6 Aug 1999 16:59:45 GMT,
>Matt McLeod <m...@labyrinth.net.au> wrote:
>
>:Without much change to the diet, I've been losing weight
>:slowly (had to go buy new clothes a few days ago, as most of
>:my old stuff had either fallen apart or had mysteriously
>:gotten too big), but, well, I'm inclined to the point of
>:view right now that speeding that up a bit might not be
>:an entirely bad move[0].
>:[0] I have my reasons for being slightly impatient about this.
>: Mostly, I must admit, related to a certain b.l-w thread.
>
>
>You live in town and work in Carlton, right? Walk to work and back every
>day.
I do this about 1/3rd of the time already. Maybe a little less, if
you take into account that I don't like walking 'round where I work
once it gets too dark (the lighting on Bouverie St sucks). Mostly
depends on weather and how late I already am.
Now, if I could get myself organised at least a little, maybe
I could get out of bed early enough to let me walk to work every
day and arrive before 11.
> Your metabolism will increase, consuming more calories. Your general
>fitness and health will improve. You will have a glow about you. This will
>make you even more of a beardless sexule dynamo.
I can only improve on the current situation. :-)
>(I'm still wondering what you look like without a beard. Does the loss of
>the beard mean you can't be a Unix guru any more?)
I've never *been* a Unix guru. Just a Unix sysadmin.
>Dammit, Cleanfeed or something rejected this for the lack of a 4gh distro.
>Second time today. I thot that was spose to happen automatically.
old-hiro did that, yes. I've become inclined to the POV that the
news swerver shouldn't be adding the Distribution header for here
or that other hierachy, so new-hiro doesn't at the moment.
Feel free to try and convince me otherwise. A Directorial Directive
is an alternative to an actual convincing argument.
Matt
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Josh Brandt
In article <slrn7r74n1....@thingy.apana.org.au>,
Nile Evil Bastard <nil...@iname.com> wrote:
>OTOH, the soybean "ice-cream" she brought home last night is definitely a
>candidate for Microsoft's food division.
Yeah, uh, much as I'm all for strange veggie-protein food, pseudo ice cream
is not one of my favorite concepts. If I'm going to the trouble of eating
ice cream, I want all the fat and stuff, and I know what I'm getting into...
I'd rather have good ice cream every once in a while than have something
nasty I can gorge myself on whenever I want. I mean, what's the point of
being able to eat a lot of it if you don't _want_ to eat a lot of it?
Nile Evil Bastard
Matt McLeod <m...@labyrinth.net.au> wrote:
:Nile Evil Bastard wibbled thus:
:>Dammit, Cleanfeed or something rejected this for the lack of a 4gh distro.
:>Second time today. I thot that was spose to happen automatically.
:old-hiro did that, yes. I've become inclined to the POV that the
:news swerver shouldn't be adding the Distribution header for here
:or that other hierachy, so new-hiro doesn't at the moment.
For that other hierarchy, of course it should (I was surprised when it
added it for me). For this one, I thot there was something on
www.usenet2.org suggesting that the addition of the distro line be
transparent to the user. I'd read up on it but I'm already gonna be killed
for staying up this late fiddling with computing machinery, when we have
Suburban Hardware Shopping to do tomorrow ...
Nile Evil Bastard
::>Dammit, Cleanfeed or something rejected this for the lack of a 4gh distro.
::>Second time today. I thot that was spose to happen automatically.
::old-hiro did that, yes. I've become inclined to the POV that the
::news swerver shouldn't be adding the Distribution header for here
::or that other hierachy, so new-hiro doesn't at the moment.
:For that other hierarchy, of course it should (I was surprised when it
:added it for me). For this one, I thot there was something on
:www.usenet2.org suggesting that the addition of the distro line be
:transparent to the user. I'd read up on it but I'm already gonna be killed
:for staying up this late fiddling with computing machinery, when we have
:Suburban Hardware Shopping to do tomorrow ...
From http://www.usenet2.org/rules.txt :
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All articles posted to U2 must have the distribution "4gh". U2 sites are
expected to put this into their "distrib.pats" files (or equivalent), so users
don't need to do this manually. This serves as an additional filter against
sites outside the net tunneling unsound messages in.
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I suppose you're not *required* to, as long as unsound articles don't
escape ...
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