sheesh
YoYo
You shouldn't be in college if you can't read a table.
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Russ Allbery
YoYo <yo...@huitzilo.tezcat.com> writes:
> You shouldn't be in college if you can't read a table.
I agree. I mean, everyone by that point in their life should have at
least some basic experience with databases and SQL....
...oh, you didn't mean that kind of table.
Never mind.
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Jim Kingdon
> > You shouldn't be in college if you can't read a table.
Absolutely. I mean, it is amazing how many people can look at a piece
of wood and just not see which way it is going to warp and where the
weak parts are.
YoYo
Russ Allbery <r...@stanford.edu> wrote:
>YoYo <yo...@huitzilo.tezcat.com> writes:
>
>> You shouldn't be in college if you can't read a table.
>
>I agree. I mean, everyone by that point in their life should have at
>least some basic experience with databases and SQL....
>
>...oh, you didn't mean that kind of table.
No. I'm talking about a *really basic* table such as one would find in,
say, _The Statitistical Abstract of the United States_.
YoYo
Jim Kingdon <kin...@panix3.panix.com> wrote:
>> > You shouldn't be in college if you can't read a table.
>
>Absolutely. I mean, it is amazing how many people can look at a piece
>of wood and just not see which way it is going to warp and where the
>weak parts are.
:-P~~*phlbbbbt*
Richard Kettlewell
Russ Allbery <r...@stanford.edu> writes:
> YoYo <yo...@huitzilo.tezcat.com> writes:
>> You shouldn't be in college if you can't read a table.
>
> I agree. I mean, everyone by that point in their life should have
> at least some basic experience with databases and SQL....
As it happens I'm getting just that basic experience at the moment.
And it illustrates some interesting points.
While SQL seems pretty close to the ideal of `writing down the problem
in the natural way' to me, some bits really grate. Writing `is not'
instead of `not is' seems completely wrong (having grown up with
computer languages where `not' was just an operator, not a piece of
some more involved syntax) and the placement of `any' and `all' seem
rather wrong (though I haven't thought hard about where I how I would
like the syntax to work in that case).
The whole thing feels like it was designed by people who, while having
a very good understanding of the problems they were trying to solve,
didn't have so much experience of more traditional computer languages.
(And using `||' to mean `concatenate' rather than `or' really confused
me for a bit, not that I'm C-centric, oh no 1-)
Anyway stepping back a bit and getting to the point, I can see how
this sort of thing comes about: certainly my education was very
strongly characterized by concentrating on very specific things,
rather than getting an overview of a whole field. Now given free
reign I tend to learn like that anyway, but the British education
system does seem particularly optimized to produce specialists rather
than generalists and synthesizers (I don't know if those are
`standard' words here but I think it's obvious what I mean).
(Example: at 16 I had to choose 3 or 4 subjects to study; as it
happened they ended up being mathematics twice and computers, and even
within the mathematics I was able to stick to very specific areas and
get lots of `A's.)
B. Elijah Griffin
YoYo <yo...@xochi.tezcat.com> wrote:
> Russ Allbery <r...@stanford.edu> wrote:
> >YoYo <yo...@huitzilo.tezcat.com> writes:
> >> You shouldn't be in college if you can't read a table.
> >I agree. I mean, everyone by that point in their life should have at
> >least some basic experience with databases and SQL....
> No. I'm talking about a *really basic* table such as one would find in,
> say, _The Statitistical Abstract of the United States_.
Even worse are the number of people who can graduate from college
without knowing how to make an easy to read table. (Hint: the tyranny
of too many rules and the sin of poor ordering.)
Elijah
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Pete Ehlke
yo...@huitzilo.tezcat.com (YoYo) writes:
>You shouldn't be in college if you can't read a table.
Heh. Some of you know that my wife teaches graduate level Accounting
at Rutgers. This week, an MBA student- yea, someone who has
actually *graduated* from college- who said she may have trouble
with some of the math in the class.
No problem, says my wife, the most we'll do is a little algebra.
What, she asks, were you having trouble with?
Ummm... says the woman, this bit here: 347/12. How do I know
that there's division involved there?
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Russ Allbery
B Elijah Griffin <e...@panix.com> writes:
> Even worse are the number of people who can graduate from college
> without knowing how to make an easy to read table. (Hint: the tyranny of
> too many rules and the sin of poor ordering.)
Oh, yeah. Ugh. I don't know *how* many excessively ruled, shadowed,
backgrounded, and uglified tables I've seen. (Particularly on the web
these days. Bleh.)
Simplicity is a virtue.
Mi nombre es Juan
Hey, what schools can u recommend for the single subject teaching
credential? I am graduatiing in March with BA in Sociology.
Thanks, Suzi
Kate Wrightson
In article <Pine.GSO.3.96.980215...@elaine12.Stanford.EDU>,
Mi nombre es Juan <sjo...@leland.Stanford.EDU> wrote:
>Hey, what schools can u recommend for the single subject teaching
>credential? I am graduatiing in March with BA in Sociology.
The short answer would probably be to ask whoever the education person is
in the career office, since credentialling differs from state to state.
The practical answer would be wherever is cheapest.
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