anyone here? anyone use BeOS?
Spacecabbage
Josh Brandt
In article <7b24du$aj4$5...@ligarius.ultra.net>,
Spacecabbage <spacec...@nightmail.com> wrote:
>anyone here? anyone use BeOS?
Used it a bit. I'm waiting to set up my computer again before I install R4
on my PowerMac, and until I can get a bigger hard disk for my Pentium Pro
box before installing R4 on it.
I've been playing with it since R2-- it's pretty spiffy. It certainly makes
my 8600/300 _seem_ like a 300MHz CPU. 8)
What about it?
Josh
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Matt McLeod
that Spacecabbage did write:
>anyone here? anyone use BeOS?
Yes to both. Although I nuked R4 a short while ago when
I found I needed the space for my MP3 spool...
[Hey, I've only got 6G of local disk... :-)]
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Spacecabbage
It doesn't work with a lot of hardware so I would have to use specific types
and makes.
How's its stability and what are its strong/week points?
Your, name is really familiar. You don't happen to work as a networking
tech. in a certain music school do you?
Spacecabbage
>>anyone here? anyone use BeOS?
>
Spacecabbage
the BeOS?
Spacecabbage
Matt McLeod
that Spacecabbage did write:
>the BeOS?
I can pay for an MP3 player for BeOS, or I can use a free one
under Linux. But basically I found that I wasn't booting BeOS
very often, so it wasn't exactly a difficult choice when it
came time to decide what got nuked to make way for the spool area.
(I encode on a different machine anyway - using Audiograbber
and BladeEnc on Windows - the OS sucks something awful, but
Audiograbber is rather cool)
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Nick Manka
ma...@netizen.com.au (Matt McLeod) writes:
> (I encode on a different machine anyway - using Audiograbber
> and BladeEnc on Windows - the OS sucks something awful, but
> Audiograbber is rather cool)
What can Audiograbber do that tosha can't?
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Josh Brandt
In article <7b44go$va4$4...@antiochus.ultra.net>,
Spacecabbage <spacec...@Anti-Social.com> wrote:
>How's its stability and what are its strong/week points?
R2 had a couple of strange problems, but nothing major. R3 was very stable
indeed. R4 I haven't played with yet. (No disk space...)
Weak points: App support. This is improving daily.
Strong points: Multitasking like god walking the face of the earth. And it's
small and zippy. And it handles memory nicely. And it's easily extensible.
And it's got the support of a lot of fan-boys, which helps. Other than that,
you'd have to play with it and find out.
>Your, name is really familiar. You don't happen to work as a networking
>tech. in a certain music school do you?
Mmmmmmmaybe. Who's askin', Mr. Anonymous Email Account?
Peter da Silva
Matt McLeod <ma...@netizen.com.au> wrote:
>We've got Audiograbber set up on my flatmate's PC. It along
>with BladeEnc can rip and encode an album in not much more
>time than it'd take to listen to it.
BladeEnc takes all day to encode a CD on a Pentium Pro/200 with 64M and
a Seagate Barracuda, under NT Workstation 4.0. Is the Pentium II really
a decimal order of magnitude faster?
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Matt McLeod
>In article <slrn7dcnc...@hiro.netizen.com.au>,
> ma...@netizen.com.au (Matt McLeod) writes:
>
>> (I encode on a different machine anyway - using Audiograbber
>> and BladeEnc on Windows - the OS sucks something awful, but
>> Audiograbber is rather cool)
>
>What can Audiograbber do that tosha can't?
Does tosha do CDDB? And how fast is it?
We've got Audiograbber set up on my flatmate's PC. It along
with BladeEnc can rip and encode an album in not much more
time than it'd take to listen to it. Mind you, this is
just a PII/233 with rather nice SCSI CD-ROM/CD-R drives
(that thing must have at least four CD-ROM drives on it - it's
spilled out into a second minitower case).
And the resulting MP3 files are properly named, I just stick
the CD in, click "Grab", and come back in an hour or so.
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Matt McLeod
>In article <slrn7deel...@hiro.netizen.com.au>,
>Matt McLeod <ma...@netizen.com.au> wrote:
>>with BladeEnc can rip and encode an album in not much more
>>time than it'd take to listen to it.
>
>a Seagate Barracuda, under NT Workstation 4.0. Is the Pentium II really
>a decimal order of magnitude faster?
I did a Dave Brubeck CD ("In Their Own Sweet Way", to be precise -
a little over an hour) in about 90 minutes. Most of that was
the encoding (Audigrabber rips at ~12x on this machine) - PII/233,
192Mb of RAM, Win98.
I'm not a hardware guy, but don't the PII's have a fairly large
cache? Plus I imagine the extra memory may be helpful (in
theory, anyway - there's enough there to load the entire track
into RAM, and then some, but I've no idea if BladeEnc takes
advantage of that).
I don't suppose that the "MMX" stuff is at all helpful in
this, by any chance?
(Like I said, I know bugger all about Intel CPUs. I stopped
caring when I stopped writing assembly, and that coincided
with my first getting my hands on an x86-based system)
Oh, and this is the DLL version, not the standalone.
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Nick Manka
ma...@netizen.com.au (Matt McLeod) writes:
> Does tosha do CDDB? And how fast is it?
CDDB sounds familiar but I can't for the life of me remember what
it expands to.
I can typically pull about 1.5 MB/s off a Plextor 12x hanging off
a FAST20 HBA.
> We've got Audiograbber set up on my flatmate's PC. It along
> with BladeEnc can rip and encode an album in not much more
> time than it'd take to listen to it. Mind you, this is
> just a PII/233 with rather nice SCSI CD-ROM/CD-R drives
On my system (PPro 200) I typically can pull down several CDs in
the time it takes BladeEnc to encode a single track at 256Kbit
quality with CRC checksums.
> And the resulting MP3 files are properly named, I just stick
> the CD in, click "Grab", and come back in an hour or so.
I wasn't aware this information was stored on the CD anywhere.
Ryan Tucker
Nick Manka <ni...@arielle.taronga.com> spewed:
>> Does tosha do CDDB? And how fast is it?
>
>CDDB sounds familiar but I can't for the life of me remember what
>it expands to.
It's a database of CD track info... very slick.
tracks 17 150 21547 39922 55922 70730 84262 98000 112792 134155 169475 192915
211005 227785 246872 257180 274477 293462 4563
cdname Saturday Night Fever - The Original Movie Soundt
artist Various Artists
track Stayin' Alive
track How Deep Is Your Love
[...]
And I never had to type any of that :-)
>> And the resulting MP3 files are properly named, I just stick
>> the CD in, click "Grab", and come back in an hour or so.
>
>I wasn't aware this information was stored on the CD anywhere.
It's not. See cddb ;-) -rt
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Matt McLeod
>In article <slrn7deel...@hiro.netizen.com.au>,
> ma...@netizen.com.au (Matt McLeod) writes:
>
>
>CDDB sounds familiar but I can't for the life of me remember what
>it expands to.
CD Database. The client generates/reads/whatnot an identifier
from the CD, and looks it up in an online database.
>I can typically pull about 1.5 MB/s off a Plextor 12x hanging off
>a FAST20 HBA.
Not sure about actual speeds. All I can say is that Audiograbber
reports that it's getting "12x" off the CD drive on this machine.
Not sure what it is though - a Pioneer or something, I think
(it isn't my machine, I only touch it to do ripping/encoding).
>> We've got Audiograbber set up on my flatmate's PC. It along
>> with BladeEnc can rip and encode an album in not much more
>> time than it'd take to listen to it. Mind you, this is
>> just a PII/233 with rather nice SCSI CD-ROM/CD-R drives
>
>On my system (PPro 200) I typically can pull down several CDs in
>the time it takes BladeEnc to encode a single track at 256Kbit
>quality with CRC checksums.
>
>> And the resulting MP3 files are properly named, I just stick
>> the CD in, click "Grab", and come back in an hour or so.
>
>I wasn't aware this information was stored on the CD anywhere.
That's where CDDB comes in. Very handy.
Matt
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Nick Manka
ma...@netizen.com.au (Matt McLeod) writes:
>>CDDB sounds familiar but I can't for the life of me remember what
>>it expands to.
>
> CD Database. The client generates/reads/whatnot an identifier
> from the CD, and looks it up in an online database.
>>I wasn't aware this information was stored on the CD anywhere.
>
> That's where CDDB comes in. Very handy.
<melodramatic villian>
Hmm, I wonder if AudioGrabber runs under wine :>
</melodramatic villian>
Matt McLeod
that Nick Manka did write:
Maybe. Depends if wine supports ASPI or MSCDEX.
I haven't looked at wine in a long time - last time I looked
I was lucky to get Program Damager to run.
Of course, the other fix is a front-end to tosha or
cdparanoia to do the CDDB stuff. ISTR that they've
published some sample code for this stuff...
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Kirrily 'Skud' Robert
>
>Of course, the other fix is a front-end to tosha or
>cdparanoia to do the CDDB stuff. ISTR that they've
>published some sample code for this stuff...
cdr, the utility I mentioned the other day, does this. As in, you tell
it "use cdparanoia" and "get cddb stuff from this url" and off it goes.
K.
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Spacecabbage
>
>Josh
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Spacecabbage
>I don't suppose that the "MMX" stuff is at all helpful in
>this, by any chance?
It's useful only if the software designers took advantage of it. They could
also take advantage of AMD's 3Dnow byitself or in tandum with MMX. I've
noticed that in audio applications that take advantage of MMX and 3Dnow that
under MMX programs that were using 100% of my processing power took only 93%
and with 3Dnow 87% when combined about 85%. Unfortunately I have not seen a
mpeg encoder (or and compression codec of similar use) that has used 3Dnow.
For those wondering about the percentages I'm using a 300MgHz K6-2 at the
time being.