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Dave@sri-unix
Jul 15, 1982, 10:04:13 PM7/15/82
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Actually I expected the FAA to hit him with three charges. First, the
vehicle probably qualified as a manned balloon, which means he was
flying unlicensed. (He would need at least a private pilot's license
with a lighter-than-air category rating.) Second, flight above 12,500
MSL requires a mode C radar beacon transponder. (At least this is true
for powered aircraft; I'm not 100% sure about balloons.) Finally,
flight above 14,000 in an unpressurized aircraft requires the pilot to
have available and use continuous oxygen. The fourth charge, which
Jim mentioned, would be flying a vehicle with no type certificate.
vehicle probably qualified as a manned balloon, which means he was
flying unlicensed. (He would need at least a private pilot's license
with a lighter-than-air category rating.) Second, flight above 12,500
MSL requires a mode C radar beacon transponder. (At least this is true
for powered aircraft; I'm not 100% sure about balloons.) Finally,
flight above 14,000 in an unpressurized aircraft requires the pilot to
have available and use continuous oxygen. The fourth charge, which
Jim mentioned, would be flying a vehicle with no type certificate.
I guess the FAA was wise in only hitting him with this last charge.
Could you imagine having to explain to the general public how the
government could demand all lawn chairs to be equipped with radar
beacon transponders when operated above 12,500?
-- Dave Touretzky
watmath!dmmartindale
Jul 16, 1982, 8:33:40 PM7/16/82
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Actually, don't you also need to have a VHF radio on board and be in
communication with ATC to operate a lawnchair at that altitude?
WRT to transponders, wouln't you need some sort of metallic shielding
between yourself and the antenna just for safety? Also, aren't their rules
covering the dropping of objects from aircraft? I seem to remember that he
lost a pair of glasses at least and maybe his air rifle.
communication with ATC to operate a lawnchair at that altitude?
WRT to transponders, wouln't you need some sort of metallic shielding
between yourself and the antenna just for safety? Also, aren't their rules
covering the dropping of objects from aircraft? I seem to remember that he
lost a pair of glasses at least and maybe his air rifle.
houxf!kenig
Jul 18, 1982, 12:39:37 AM7/18/82
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It should only be a matter of time before the FCC gets on the bandwagon.
He was operating a CB while up in the air, sky high.
He was operating a CB while up in the air, sky high.
pyuxl!cook
Jul 18, 1982, 1:29:58 AM7/18/82
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Does this mean lawn chairs operated in the Rocky Mountains at 12,500+ feet
need radar transponders?
Mike Cook
need radar transponders?
Mike Cook
alice!rhm
Jul 19, 1982, 12:05:12 AM7/19/82
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Lawn chairs need only have transponders when they are more than
1500 feet above the surface, in addition to 12,500 ft above sea level.
1500 feet above the surface, in addition to 12,500 ft above sea level.
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