driving habits
Arthur J. Byrnes
Is it only my experiance or have others found the same thing
that I have:
It seems to me that christians, (or just some who pretend to be)
can't drive very well. Very often the car that pulls out in
front of me and causes me to slam on my brakes, will have a sticker
proudly proclaiming something like "God is my Co-piolt".
Or "Born again Christian at wheel".
Does anyone else notice this?
These opinions are my own.........
Mikki Barry
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You don't need that anymore. The line eater has ascended
>It seems to me that christians, (or just some who pretend to be)
>can't drive very well. Very often the car that pulls out in
>front of me and causes me to slam on my brakes, will have a sticker
>proudly proclaiming something like "God is my Co-piolt".
>Or "Born again Christian at wheel".
>Does anyone else notice this?
It has been my experience that "Baby on Board!" and "Child on Board!"
stickers make for far more dangerous drivers than the christian
stickers do. Just today a "baby on board" type with the baby crawling
between the front and back seats, up into the back windshield, and back
pulled out in front of me on a highway when I was doing the speed limit
of 55. She was doing about 20 when she pulled out. I almost rear ended
her and the baby we are all supposed to make special allowance for nearly
became road pizza.
Most of the chrisitan stickers I have seen have been on cars of old people
(remember, these are the ones I have personally seen. No flames, ok?)
who are usually far worse drivers anyway.
Besides. If they really believe they are going to a better life than this
when they die, why not drive bad? Might speed up the getting there :-)
JUST KIDDING, OK?
Mikki Barry
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Russell Spence
> that I have:
>
> It seems to me that christians, (or just some who pretend to be)
> can't drive very well. Very often the car that pulls out in
> front of me and causes me to slam on my brakes, will have a sticker
> proudly proclaiming something like "God is my Co-piolt".
> Or "Born again Christian at wheel".
>
> Does anyone else notice this?
I especially like the ones I used to see in southern Oklahoma
in the heart of the bible-belt. The ones that say something
like
WARNING! This car will become driverless
during the Rapture!
I know that I always try to keep at a safe distance from
these cars :->.
Michael Sellers
It's been my experience that by far the worst drivers on the road are
people who make wild generalizations in conversation. *ALL* people who
are apt to say that there is a causal relation between religious/soft
drink preference and driving/typing proficiency are clearly and obviously
the real dangers on the road/net. Also men who post to net.women.
I thought everyone knew this stuff. Isn't it net.announce anymore?
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Seriously, I did see (and give wide berth to) a panel truck with a yellow
diamond-shaped sign in the back that said...
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Ronald O. Christian
>can't drive very well.
Now wait one cotton pickin' minute...
Oh, *those* kind. Never mind.
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Dave Haynie
>
> Is it only my experiance or have others found the same thing
> that I have:
>
> It seems to me that christians, (or just some who pretend to be)
> can't drive very well. Very often the car that pulls out in
> front of me and causes me to slam on my brakes, will have a sticker
> proudly proclaiming something like "God is my Co-piolt".
> Or "Born again Christian at wheel".
>
> Does anyone else notice this?
I don't know if I'd generalize to that degree. But my oldest sister went
through a B-A-C phase, and at the same time seemed to loose her driving
abilities. I think anyone that honestly believes that "God is my Co-Pilot"
is bound to be a road hazard. Hey, whey bother driving carefully? With
the "big guy" helping me out, I couldn't possibly get into any trouble.
They'd do lots better with "Intelligence and quick reflexes are used by
the pilot, well maintained mechanicals are the co-pilot". Or something like
that.
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Noh Pindmietrs
>that I have:
>It seems to me that christians, (or just some who pretend to be)
>can't drive very well. Very often the car that pulls out in
>front of me and causes me to slam on my brakes, will have a sticker
>proudly proclaiming something like "God is my Co-piolt".
>Or "Born again Christian at wheel".
It's only your experience, Arthur. Perhaps you could, if pressed,
come up with a neato reason why that would occupy us for weeks to
come. As everyone here knows, Christians are bad at nearly everything
except trying to take control of the government, right?
If the smiley or the wink necessary?
How come so many fatal traffic accident photos I see clearly show
copies of women's magazines on the auto seats? And now that I think
of it, lots of women pull out in front of me in traffic. About half
of the people who pull out in front of me in traffic are women, in
fact. I guess that there is a such thing as a "woman driver", huh? ;-)
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Gregory Taylor (....uwvax!astroatc!gtaylor) Astronautics, Madison, WI
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>> can't drive very well. Very often the car that pulls out in
>> front of me and causes me to slam on my brakes, will have a sticker
>> proudly proclaiming something like "God is my Co-piolt".
>> Or "Born again Christian at wheel".
>through a B-A-C phase, and at the same time seemed to loose her driving
>abilities. I think anyone that honestly believes that "God is my Co-Pilot"
>is bound to be a road hazard. Hey, whey bother driving carefully? With
>the "big guy" helping me out, I couldn't possibly get into any trouble.
Alright, enough of this. If you actually think this stuff, try this.
Count all the bad drivers on the road with these kind of bumper stickers.
Then count all the bad drivers without them. Then count all driver on the
road with/without them. Now figure out the percentage of bad drivers in
group, and I'm sure you'll find that they're most likely about equal.
It's just that you happen to notice cars with bumper stickers more than
cars without. Incidentally, you'll never (ok, hardly ever) find me
pulling out in front of you and making you slam on your brakes. I
very much dislike having that happen to me.
BTW, not that anyone really cares, but if it was a "phase" your sister
went through, then she was most likely never a B-A-C in the first place.
And the reasoning about "The Big Guy watching out for me" is rubbish.
It should be something like "I'm supposed to be a Christian, so I ought
to drive responsibly." God may well let you kill yourself in a car
crash if it saves other people's lives.
you and making
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Ronald O. Christian
>>[Christians tend to be bad drivers]
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>I don't know if I'd generalize to that degree. But my oldest sister went
>through a B-A-C phase, and at the same time seemed to loose her driving
>abilities.
I hate to generalize on issues like this, so I'll talk about people
I know. Many members of my family are rather... religious... and the
most pious seem to be the worst drivers. There's a fatalistic attitude
there, I think, that gets in the way. You don't need to protect yourself
because God is protecting you. In fact, a couple relitives are honestly
offended by the thought of driving defensively, because they consider
it as showing lack of faith.
I don't say everyone is like this, but I've seen it in my own family.
Ron
David Canzi
>Besides. If they really believe they are going to a better life than this
>when they die, why not drive bad? Might speed up the getting there :-)
>
>JUST KIDDING, OK?
File this under "anecdotal evidence". When I was in high-school, I
once went with a friend and several schoolmates to a prayer meeting
that was held by a local businessman, in his home just out of town, on
a highway. The ride back, with a carload of born-again Christians, was
one of the most interesting rides of my life, with, ah, considerable
potential to be my last. One of my carmates said "What do we care, we
*know* where we're going to go."
But then, these were teenagers. Perhaps born-again teenagers grow up
(*if* they survive long enough) to be born-again adults and develop
saner driving habits.
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Dave Haynie
> Xref: cbmvax talk.religion.misc:185 net.auto:3003
> How come so many fatal traffic accident photos I see clearly show
> copies of women's magazines on the auto seats? And now that I think
> of it, lots of women pull out in front of me in traffic. About half
> of the people who pull out in front of me in traffic are women, in
> fact. I guess that there is a such thing as a "woman driver", huh? ;-)
These are obviously Christian women. The reason that you see more women
than men driving like this is that women are increasingly outnumbering
men as active, practicing members of most Christian sects, at least in
the US today.
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> Gregory Taylor (....uwvax!astroatc!gtaylor) Astronautics, Madison, WI
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Chris Redmond
>than men driving like this is that women are increasingly outnumbering
>men as active, practicing members of most Christian sects, at least in
>the US today.
>
Good grief. Leaving aside the question of driving habits (which is
where this exchange started), let me point out that Christianity has
ALWAYS been a female-dominated religion. Rather odd, when you think
what certain branches of so-called Christianity have done to women,
but it's true: virtually all churches in virtually all centuries have
been full of women worshippers while the men went elsewhere or stayed
home.
Some interesting speculations might be made (and probably have been)
about the emotional appeal that Christianity has had for women. One
suggestion I heard recently was that for many, many women, God "the
Father" has been the ONLY reliable, loving male figure in their lives.
No wonder that so much of the resistance to "liberation language" and
female images for God now comes from women, especially older women!
Disclaimer: I am a Christian and a male.
Dave Haynie
That's a good point. I thought that Christianity had a history of
attracting more women, but I KNEW that this was so in the US in recent
times. Part of the attraction is probably as you say. Though overall,
the "traditional" role (circa 1950's and prior) of women in the US
society, as well as many European societies, has left them with very few
activities outside the home, other than the Church. Women have been openly
accepted into many versions of the religion, even if in a second class
role (which is enforced by the religion, thus keeping them in that role
regardless of their relative number).