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Richard J. Sexton

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Feb 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/11/98
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In article <6bt2uq$r8$1...@nntp.Stanford.EDU>,
Dan Karp <dk...@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> wrote:
>>
>> Interestingly enough, and I should have mentioned this
>> before I have seen this malady cured by putting a piece of
>> ceder root in the tank.
>
>Cedar root? What is it, where can I get some, and does it really
>work?


Well, it's not actually Ceder, as that only grows in Lebanon,
but many trees are called Ceder: here in Ontario (Caanda,
not county) we have white ceder also called Arbor Vitae
(Thuja occidentalis) and in BD they have the western red
ceder (Thuja plicata). Yelolow cypress (Chamaeccyparis nootkatensis)
is close enough.

The roots are chock-full of bizarre hormones, tannins
and other wierd organic chemicals and have a strong bacteriastatic
effect.

What you do, is, obtain a piece of the root and throw it inthe
tank. Ideally you've aged it in water for about a year
first. It wil turn your water anywhere form light tea
coloe to dark brown depending on how long you've cured it
by soaking in water first. I've sen it used to treat the
malady you complain of in Oscars with good
results.

If you're at Stanford then presumably you're in Palo
Alto where I understand trees are all plastic and
obtained from Hollywood,so I have no idea where you're
going to find any of these. I have acres of these
things here, just to rub it in.


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Jeremy.

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Feb 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/11/98
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In net.aquaria, Richard J. Sexton (ric...@ns1.vrx.net) said...

>If you're at Stanford then presumably you're in Palo Alto where I
>understand trees are all plastic and obtained from Hollywood,so I have no
>idea where you're going to find any of these. I have acres of these things
>here, just to rub it in.

Umm, have you ever been to Palo Alto? There are lots of trees here.
Actually probably with more density on campus than in Palo Alto (since the
University wastes, err, spends, tons of money on groundskeeping and making
everything look nice). As to whether any are cedar, or imitation cedar,
that I couldn't tell you. I will say they have far fewer maple trees than
Chicago, but a fair number more Palm Trees :)

-J.
vaguely off topic, but we can always move to n.g. if there's a need.

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You're the Same.

Richard J. Sexton

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Feb 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/11/98
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In article <6btdgq$1...@BOFH.Stanford.EDU>,

Jeremy. <whi...@caprice.Stanford.EDU> wrote:
>In net.aquaria, Richard J. Sexton (ric...@ns1.vrx.net) said...
>>If you're at Stanford then presumably you're in Palo Alto where I
>>understand trees are all plastic and obtained from Hollywood,so I have no
>>idea where you're going to find any of these. I have acres of these things
>>here, just to rub it in.
>
>Umm, have you ever been to Palo Alto?

Lots of times, some of my best friends live there.


Every time I visit they put away the plastic trees and
put real ones there, but I'm not fooled.

Richard J. Sexton

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Feb 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/13/98
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In article <6c2i7s$7hs$1...@nntp.Stanford.EDU>,
Dan Karp <dk...@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> wrote:
>Dan Karp <dk...@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> wrote:
>>Just an update: I've isolated the fish and treated with Maracyn II
>> for 5 days now (the recommended length of treatment). The popeye
>> and clouy eyes remain unchanged. I'm going to change a bunch of
>> the water tomorrow, let the fish recuperate for a few days, then
>> try a gram-positive medication.
>
>Another update: The situation has become worse. I've just noticed a
> little bit of blood in with the cloudiness in both of the fish's
> bulgy eyes. Any suggestions?

Have you tried he gram positive antibiotics yet ?

Richard J. Sexton

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Feb 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/13/98
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In article <6c2ro0$bu7$1...@nntp.Stanford.EDU>,
Dan Karp <dk...@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> wrote:
>
>Not yet. I'm worried that the medication might have been what made
> things worse, and more medication might just make the fish weaker.
> But I'll try the other style of antibiotics if you think it'd help.

Yeah, it's safe to mix the two types of antibiotics. Adding
one teaspoon of salt per gallon (aquarium/rock/kosher salt)
would be a good idea as well.

Richard J. Sexton

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Feb 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/19/98
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In article <6cibrv$bsb$1...@nntp.Stanford.EDU>,
Dan Karp <dk...@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> wrote:

>Richard J. Sexton <ric...@ns1.vrx.net> wrote:
>>Yeah, it's safe to mix the two types of antibiotics. Adding
>>one teaspoon of salt per gallon (aquarium/rock/kosher salt)
>>would be a good idea as well.
>
>It's been 5 or 6 days now that I've been treating the fish with both
> tetracycline and Maracyn, with salt thrown in for good measure.
> The tank water's gotten a bit cloudy and greenish, but the fish
> still has the same symptoms: bulgy, cloudy eyes. Any suggestions
> on what to try next?

Get a new fish ?

You;ve got me. Try the goldfish mailing list, seee
http://lists.aquaria.net/fish/puregold

I never have much luck treating sick fish to be honest,
either the fish don't get beter or the medication kills
them :-(

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