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huzeyfalovely

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Jan 24, 2010, 1:36:08 AM1/24/10
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AWWW If you are really working for Ethio Muslims, and you are a collection of educated Ethio Muslims who knows education and science, why do not you let my message to posted in your site. the truth is you know Allah will not make you successful because your strugle is not based on Tewhid [the message all the prophets of Allah, proclaimed to humans and jinns] (Nuh [AS] for 950 years and even our prophet [SAW] for 13 years he teach tewhid), but one of your members Bilal Luqman, said "shirk is not the issue of Ethio muslims".
let me start
1, in northern Ethiopia, people go to Al-negashi grave and pray there
2, Gonder , people ask for childeren, wealth, health from a died sheh ali gonder, which they prononce [getawe sheh ali gonder]
3, Gojam
4, Sheh Hussien Jibril as they claim the man who saw tommorrow
5, Sheh Abader of Harar
6, Shehena Hussien as they claim seidul arifin [the best of all the best]
7, in the center of Addis Ababa, Gulelie grave yard [sheh hassen senbeto, where people worship his grave]
8, Katbari
9,Abrete
10, Wello [Geta,Sheh Chalie, an countable]
11,it is enough is you can understand this examples but you guys simply want to cover up your dirty political agenda in the name of "we care for Ethio Muslims". If you realy care save them from hell fire by calling them into tewhid of Allah, and the sunna of the prophet (SAW), and forbide them from shirk and bedea.

as for yourself who again claim that you understood sherik by saying "1992/93 (G.C) Muslim youth movement…the Umma is becoming aware of it now [meaning sheirk]" let me ask you a question
1, Was the sehaba unaware about sheirk to understand it like you in one year? prophet (SAW) spent 13 years to teach tewhid and what negates it sheirk
2, if you realy have religious knoweledge. you would have understood the films, which [ihwanes said the cinema is permissable] you view like
     A, The Lord of the rings
     B, Hurry Potter
        and the like of them are full of shirks [a tree telling what is happening some where on earth? O what Misguidance is, May Allah guide us all to the stright path.]

Allah says Victory is for Allah, His messenger and the belivers.

why do not you struggle to make Ethio Muslims to struggle in knowledge about belive in Allah, His Angles ......[Aqeda or belive in general]?

why do not you let Ethio Muslims to follow as a sole only Prophet (SAW) and the first best three generation [the selefun as-salyhun]. and stop following ihwanes who kill muslims and be friend with the jews as yusuf al-qardawi said "the enemity between us and the jews is only about land", " ..i will say our christian brothers", but when they kill a Muslim Anwar Sadat the president of Egypt and even attempted on the current president of Egypt Hussni Mubarek, what justification that you leaders in Egypt have?

Allah Prohibits the killing of Muslim except with Islamic rulings. but when there absolutly no religious knowledge in once mind, he will follow his desires.

May Allah Perish Ihwanel Muslimin and guide us and them to the stright path, which Prophet Muhammed[saw] and his companions where.

Ameen


Abdusalaam Aadam

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Jan 26, 2010, 12:51:49 PM1/26/10
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Assalamu alaykum

 

Jazakallah khairan. Definitely, it’s important for any caller to the path of Allah to educate and continuously remind people about the tauhid  (monotheism) of Allah and also to forbid them from shirk (polytheism) and bidah (innovation in religion).  What makes Islam monotheistic religion is tauhid. However, if we participate in veneration of graves and seeking aid from these sheikhs who had died, we would be committing major sin.

 

As for the issue of denying the existence of shirk, that says something about the speaker. That is like the statement of Ali Jifry, a sufi sheikh, who stated that there’s no shirk in Arab Peninsula. He was refuted by many scholars. Those who refuted him did it with evidence. So our situation is not different at all.

 

As for the issue of ikhwan-al-mufliseen, we can see the result of their dawah by what’s happening in the world at this time. They are either directly or indirectly responsible. Because of their takfeeree methodology, many lives of innocent Muslims are being lost. Many groups that are committing suicide bombing around the world today are either off-shoot of ikhwan or influenced by their leaders like Sayid Qutb.

 

As for the issue of Al-Qardhawi, I dont advise anyone to pay attention to what he says. The man says some things a Muslim shouldnt say. Lately, it was reported from him where he said "we criticise Mu'awiya, we criticise Marwan, we..." Subhanallah.

 

So brothers and sisters in Islam, the solution is to return to the kitab and sunnah according to the practice and understanding of the salafu-salih. May Allah guide us all to their path. Amin.


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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 22:36:08 -0800
Subject: {Nesiha} Question To Ethio Muslims Google Groups
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Mohammed Dino

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Jan 26, 2010, 6:20:13 AM1/26/10
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W.A.W.W

 

Dear huzeyfa

 

I already responded to you about this email.

 

I told you I amnot ethio-muslims group.

 

But you havenot amswered my question about the clear historical facts which I listed for you.

Clear simple facts shouldnot be shut out for convinience.

‘’Dear abu huzeyfa

 

Is it true that ALMAWDUDI was the guest of honour for the inauguration of MADINA ISLAMIC UNIVERSITY ?????.

 

Is it true that MOHAMMED QUTB.was a lecturer in MADINA ISLAMIC UNIVERSITY ?????

 

Is it true that sholars are allowed to come to MADINA ISLAMIC UNIVERSITY by the approval of the HIGHER COUNCIL OF ISLAMIC SCHOLARS of SAUDI ARABIA ???

 

Is it true that the chairman of the HIGHER COUNCIL OF ISLAMIC SCHOLARS is also the MUFTI of SAUDI ARABIA????

 

Is it true that MOHAMMED QUTB was teaching in MADINA ISLAMIC UNIVERSITY while shaikh IBN BAZ (rahimahullah) was the MUFTI ????

 

Is it true that shaikh IBN BAZ(R.A) could have nulified the teaching permit of MUHAMMAD QUTB if he was an appostate,a takfiri and a kharijite??????????

 

Please comment on the above hard-facts.’’

 

Vbrgds///

 

 

Mohammed Dino
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From: nes...@googlegroups.com [mailto:nes...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of huzeyfalovely
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 9:36 AM
To: NESIHA ISLAMIC GROUP
Subject: {Nesiha} Question To Ethio Muslims Google Groups

 

AWWW If you are really working for Ethio Muslims, and you are a collection of educated Ethio Muslims who knows education and science, why do not you let my message to posted in your site. the truth is you know Allah will not make you successful because your strugle is not based on Tewhid [the message all the prophets of Allah, proclaimed to humans and jinns] (Nuh [AS] for 950 years and even our prophet [SAW] for 13 years he teach tewhid), but one of your members Bilal Luqman, said "shirk is not the issue of Ethio muslims".

abu huzeyfa ibn adem

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Jan 28, 2010, 3:39:05 AM1/28/10
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AWWW Mohammed Dino. Allahu Subhanehu wetala knows our deep thoughts though we hide it and will Decide upon his slave disagreement.

if some one does not know about something, then he may not be asked regarding the issue. regarding ibn-baaz, allowing al-mewdudi as a guest of honor, muhammed qutub as a lecturer at the univerity of medina, the mistake of such misguiding peoples were not known to ibn baaz and to all the other ulemmas, ibn baaz even interceed for seid kutub when president Jemal abdu-Nasir was about to excute seid kutub [ra], but after the death of seid kutub many years passed, as you know also ibn baaz was blind when they read for him the writting of seid kutub, which he was not aware about first example statments like

SHAIKH ‘ABDUL - ‘AZEEZ IBN BAAZ - hafizahullaah -
When asked about the speech of Sayyid Qutb concerning the saying of Allah - the Most High - Ar-rahmanu ‘alal Arshis tawa -, Sayyid Qutb said in ‘az-Zilaal:

"As for al-Istiwaa’ upon the Throne, then we are able to say: It is a metaphor for His mastery over the creation." [‘az-Zilaah’: 4/2328 & 6/3408 - 12th edition, 1406H, Daarul-‘Ilm]

So the Shaikh replied: "This is all a futile saying - that this means His mastery. He has not affirmed ‘al-Istiwaa. - which means a denial of ‘Istiwaa.’ Which is known and means His ascension upon the throne. [What he has said] is futile and shows that he is destitute with regard to tafseer and lost in that regard."

Then one of those present mentioned that some people always advise that this book should be read, so he said: "That which he says is an error. No! An error. That which he says is an error. We will soon write in that regard - if Allah wills."

Then in the same lesson some parts of the book of Sayyid Qutb ‘at-Tasweer al-Fannee fil-Qur’aan’ were read to him such as his speech about Moosaa - ‘alaihis-Salaam - upon whom he said: "Let us take Moosaa - as the example of the leader of excitable nature - and this excitable impulse quickly passes away and he regains his composure, as is the case with the excitable folk." Then he said with regard to the Saying of Allah - the Most High - "Fa as-ba-hu fil madinati kha bi fan..." :- "This is the description of a well known state: the restlessness or fear of one expecting evil at every turn - and this is the characteristic of the excitable folk." [‘at-Tasweer al-Fannee fil-Qur’aan’: p.200,201,203. 13th ....]

So the Shaikh replied to this:

"Mockery of the Prophets is apostasy in its own."

And is was said to him that Shaikh Rabee’ al-Madhkhalee has written a refutation of Sayyid Qutb, so the Shaikh said: "Rebuttal of him is good." *

[During a lesson of Shaikh ‘Abdul - ‘Azeez ibn Baaz - hafizahullaah - in his house in Rayaad: 1413H, ‘Minhaajus-Sunnah tapes of ar-Rayaad]

Regarding Mewdudi even by mistake ulemmas quote his sayings in their books. but Allhamdullilah Sheh Rebie Al-Medheli (May Allah protect him), and many notable scholars, wrote the mistakes of Seid Kutub, Yusuf Al-Qardawi, Muhammed Qutub, Turabi, Almewdudi name them yourself, with proves from their books.

if this is clear for you Muhammed Dino and you still insist in something else i will tell you the following once the truth have been exposed for them but they want to follow the muteshibha, or even cover up the truth and deluded the pure hearted by saying this is political issues, then it is a resemblance with the Jews.  If you truly know that Muhammed Qutaub Damages the youth of Saudi Arebia like Selmanel Aweda, Seferel Hawali and the like, you will simply gave up your claims and see in what the sheria sees. but you are trying to say "do not cover up the truth". what is the truth.

is the truth
Almewdudi saying

“This [Yusuf’s request to become Custodian in Egypt] was not a demand to be the Minister of Finance only, as some people understand, this was not a demand of the ministerial office  of finance only, but a demand for dictatorship. As a result this position which Sayyidinaa Yusuf (alaihis-salaam) got is almost the same which Mussolini enjoyed in Italy in these days.” (Tafheemaat, Part II, P.122, 5th edition). Al Maududi also spokes about Dawed, Yunus and Adem (AS) in another places.

“The example of Moosa (AS) is like that of a hasty conquerer who, without establishing his authority, surges ahead, while revolt spreads like fire behind in the conquered territories”. [Tarjumaan ul-Qur’aan Vol 29. No 4. P.5]

"Then all of the affairs are shared between us since we are the sons of a single land, our destination is the same and our Ummah is one. I say about them, ‘Our Christian brothers’ and some people reject this from me and say how can I say that they are our Christian brothers? [Allaah says] "Verily the Believers are but a single brotherhood". Yes, we are believers and they are believers from another angle". (Programme for Sharee’ah and Life, in the lecture Non-Muslims in Light of the Sharee’ah, dated 12/10/97 in Qunaat.)


or is the truth the saying of Yusuf al-Qardawi
"We do not fight the Jews for the sake of Aqidah, we fight them for the sake of the land

or is the truth the saying of Seid kutub
"The Companions saw this deviation from the spirit of Islaam, and would call one another to al-Madeenah to save Islaam and to save Islaam from the trial; and the khalifah - in his old age, and his state brought about by advanced age - did not possess control of his affair to the expense of Marwaan. It is difficult to accuse the spirit of Islaam in the person of Islaam, but it is likewise difficult to pardon him for the error of the unfortunate occurrence of his taking the khilaafah whilst he was a weakened old man, who was surrounded by evil courtiers from Banu Umayyah..." (p.189 5th edn and its meaning is on p.161 of the 12th edn.)

or is the truth the saying of Hassen At-turabi

"I personally have views that run against all of the orthodox schools of law on the status of women, on the court testimony of non-muslims, on the law of apostasy....I don't accept the condemnation of Salman Rushdie. There are moral injunctions of how women and men should dress, but that is not part of the law."

 Hasan Turabi in "Foreign Affairs", p.53-55. May/June 1995. HIS own book "Tajdeed Usul Al Fiqh Al Islamiyyah" (Redefining/modernizing the Usul ul Fiqh Al Islamiyyah). p12

 "Old fiqh was influenced by greek philosophy... This modernization must be in the roots. (usul)......In economics, ......(a number of things)... and IBADAAT" p 19

 "We need new Ijtihad in the Ibadaat...." there he goes again ! p 20

"The Muslims are in need of new laws for divorce and marriage and we must take advantage of what the west has to offer.....(makes references to sociology)" p22

 "We need Usul wasi'ah for new Fiqh..."  ie. to produce the new fiqh, we need 'Broader' usul.p22

 "We need Qiyas wasi'ah.." ie. Quran and Sunnah are too restrictive on the Qiyas, therefore we need to define new parameters for Qiyas. p22

 "The Sahaba's Qiyas was bounded by Greek Philosophy...

I always read your mail Muhammed Dino The senior Accountant you always say i am not ihwani but you always defend Yusuf al-Qardawi saying this man may have controversial fetwas but he is good. is the following contriversial or kufr? tell me if you have religious knowledge.

Yusuf Al-Qardawi

The actual text of his words are as follows (in the second part of a Friday khutbah), "Before I leave this station of mine (i.e. from giving this khutbah) I love that I should say a word about the results of the Israeli elections. The Arabs, all of them, were placing their hopes in the victory of Barleen, however he lost and this is what we praise about Israel. We desire and hope that our country can be like this country. Due to only a small number of people, the one who was actually ruling lost his position. There was not 94% or 95% (of votes) which is what we are accustomed to in our country, but 99%, (yes) 99%. If Allaah had presented himself to the people as a candidate he would not have been able to take this amount… we welcome Israel for what it has accomplished…"

tell me please. let me write to you one story of the Jews at the time of the prophet (SAW)

 ibn sooreeyah, when he concealed the verse of stoning. When two Jews committed fornication and the jews asked the messenger of Allah (SAW), and he asked, “what do you find in the torah?” they said “we expose them and lash them”. So Abdellaah ibn Salaam (who use to be a jew and then became Muslim) said, “you have lied, verily it has the verse of stoning”.so torah was brought and ibn Sooreeyah stood up and read from it, putting his hand on the verse of stoning. And he read what was before it and after it. So Abdelah ibn Salam said, “you’ve lied, verily it has the verse of stoning. Lift up your hand”. So he lifted it and there was the verse of stoning.


Why do you cover up such big errors to mislead the pure hearted sunni from the truth path like the jews? please repent to Allah. for Allah is oft-forgiving to his servants.




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Jan 28, 2010, 7:38:35 AM1/28/10
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Asslamu Alykum.
There is a question comes in my mind all the time. The question is, is
that enough to be just a Muslim or we have to have extra name other
than been just Muslim. To show haw good or superior Muslim we are.
like Muslim + salafi, Muslim + Suffi, Muslim + tebligi, Muslim +
wuhabi, Muslim + hanefi, shafi,.... and more. I heard one of the shih
was talking about there was a time it was over 2000 extras associated
next to the name of Muslim. just because one group make a name for
them self. do we have to have other name to disassociate with them.
when is the name Islam will be enough.

Fi-Amanillah

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