Re: Wikpedia Zero from NCell in Nepal

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Hempal Shrestha

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May 7, 2014, 10:42:30 AM5/7/14
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Dear Wikipedians, Wikimedians, 

Its great news to share that NCell, a Nepali Mobile service provider has started to provide Wikipedia Zero starting from today. Its working perfect for me almost for the entire day today :). 

This has been a constant initiative that we Wikimedians from Nepal had been asking for from the concerned service providers in Nepal and tech team at the Wikimedia Foundation. It almost took more than 1 year in discussion and followup.  
यहाँ म राम प्रसाद जोशीजी को यो email साभार गर्न चाहान्छु जुन वहाँले मलाई केहि समय अघि लेखनु भयेको थियो। "मित्रहरूलाई थाह नै होला म मोबाइलबाट नै विकिमा सम्पादन गर्छु तर मलाई कम्प्युटरको ज्ञान छैन। नेपालमा मोबाइल इन्टरनेट धेरै महंगो छ त्यसैले सबै मित्रहरूलाई मेरो आग्रह छ की मैले पाउनु पर्ने WML नेपालको फोटो प्रतियोगीताको पुरस्कारको धनराशी बराबरको मुल्य पर्ने एनसेलको रिचार्ज कार्ड अथवा बैलेंस  ट्रांसफर गरिदिनु होला। जसबाट म विकिमा केही मात्रामा योगदान गर्न सक्नेछु।"- राम प्रसाद जोशी

Thanks to Kul, James, Jammie,  Yana and Carolynne from WMF team for supporting Wikipedia Zero for Nepal. We constantly look forward for your continues support in coming days as well. 

Thanks to NCell for taking up the lead and bringing Wikipedia (an more importantly Nepali Wikipedia) it to everyone's handset and realizing the dreams of every Ram Prasad Joshi's who would be able to at-least read Wikipedia content from Nepal. 

In the meantime, we would be great-full if we could have other major Telecom operator in Nepal also join us in this bandwagon. We are also constantly following up with some of them, and hope they will be supporting the Wikipedia Zero in Nepal soon. When done, than only, we will be able to fine balance to some extent between the access to sum of all human knowledge  ( at zero price tag), net-neutrality and everything but the commercial interest which we would like to avoid in favor of the Net-neutrality and the knowledge commons. Thanks Yana for sharing the discussion which gave us (at-least me) some clear moral grounds to stand on Wikipedia Zero during last meeting and follow up discussion from the Wikimedia Conference 2014 in Berlin. 

For those in Nepal, (especially Ram Prasad Joshi ji) who would like to access the Wikipedia Zero, please visit ne.zero.wikipedia.org for Nepali and en.zero.wikipedia.org for English from your Ncell mobile Internet in Nepal. Or goto zero.wikipedia.org for choosing other languages.

Thanks to everyone for making it happen. 

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With kind regards, 

Hempal Shrestha
A Fellow Wikimedian from Nepal
FOSS Solutions : A Knowledge Collaboration Enterprise
G.P.O Box: 5501
1753 Ramshah Path, Near Nepal Share Market, 
Putalisadak, Kathmandu, Nepal

Rajesh

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May 7, 2014, 11:00:21 AM5/7/14
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Very good. This is good. Knowledge should not have any barriers, 😁
Several providers around the globe have already started similar services for their providers.
This is good for all ncell Wikipedians.

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Subject: [nepaliwiki] Re: Wikpedia Zero from NCell in Nepal

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Ganesh Paudel

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Hi everybody,
This is really a big news for us to have Wikipedia Zero in Nepal.

Thanks Hempal ji for acknowledging Ram Prasad Joshi. Mr. Joshi is probably the first and only Wiki Sysop (admin) in the world who has made over 6,000 edits only using mobile phone. This single example is sufficient to understand the scenario of access to internet and Wikipedia in Nepal.

We, the volunteer wikipedians contributing from Nepal have experienced similar condition for a long period of time. In this ground, introduction of Wikipedia Zero is a torch of hope.
We can hope wider reach of Wikipedia now and in long run, the thirst for knowledge will catalyze us to have more content in Wikipedia in various Nepalese languages.

We are grateful to the Wikimedia Foundation, NCELL and all people behind this achievement.

On my top there is a panic picture of Wikipedias in Nepalese language now. We can not take full advantage of this achievement until we will be able to create sufficient information content in local languages. We have to enrich Nepali and other Nepalese language Wikipedia in term of quality and quantity of articles.

This is the beginning. We hope to have a better collaboration with NCELL and other mobile operators for expanding the access to the free knowledge and also qualitative/quantative growth in free knowledge content via Wikipedia in local languages.

With best Regards
Ganesh K. Paudel
Wikimedias of Nepal



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Nirmal Dulal

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It was a great news about,specially for Nepal. It helps to promote editing Wikipedia here. and Thanks to ncell which play a great roll on this.........

Regards,
Nirmal


2014-05-08 6:46 GMT+05:45 Ramesh Tiwari <rt96...@gmail.com>:
एनसेलले जिरो विकिपीडिया चलाएको छ भन्ने संदेस पाएर खुशी लाग्यो। मैले
http://ne.zero.wikipedia.org लगअन गरेर हेरें तर त्यहाँ माफ गर्नुहोला
तपाइँको मोबाइलमा यो सेवा उपलब्ध छैन भन्ने संदेस मिल्यो। मैले नोकिया
कम्पनीको मोबाइल प्रयोग गर्छु, विकि सम्पादनको लागी मैले ओपेरा मिनी
ब्रौजरको प्रयोग गर्छु, म एनसेल नेटवर्कको प्रयोग गर्छु। मैले जिरो
विकिपीडियाको सुविधा लिन के गर्नु पर्ला कृपया कोशिस गर्नुहोला।
राम प्रसाद जोशी- मो॰ +9779816527137

Krish Dulal

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सम्पादन गर्न चाहि नमिल्ने होला नि त😊

Saroj Dhakal

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But one has to use system default browser . Specific to Ram Prasad Ji's case he was using opera mini which can not access Wikipedia zero, he will have to use Nokia browser in his Nokia Phone .

Thanks,
Saroj

On May 8, 2014 10:03 AM, "Milan M. Sharma" <milan....@ncell.com.np> wrote:

Dear Krish Ji,

We are glad to inform you that you can edit and add new information with Wikipedia Zero from Ncell. The service facilitates adding many more information about Nepal, bolstering Nepal’s presence and enriching Nepali content in the largest online encyclopedia.

 

Best regards

Milan Sharma

Expert - Corporate Communication, CEO Office

Tel    +977 980  555 4404

Fax   +977 980 555 4442

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Subject: RE: Wikpedia Zero from NCell in Nepal

Dear Ramesh Ji,
You can edit/update articles too, as I shared earlier. To update/edit article please browse it through www.wikipedia.org in desktop by using Ncell internet.


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From: Ramesh Tiwari [mailto:rt96...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2014 1:19 PM
To: Srijana Timsina
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Subject: Re: Wikpedia Zero from NCell in Nepal

कुरो बुझ्दा यसबाट हामीलाई कुनै फाइदा छैन मैले मोबाइलबाट जिरो विकिपीडिया चलाएर हेरें मोबाइल साइटबाट डेस्कटोप साइटमा गएमा पैंसा कट्छ मोबाइल साइट चलाएर विकिपीडियामा सम्पादन गर्न सकिन्न यो योजनाले त विकिपीडिया पाठक वर्गहरूलाई मात्र फाइदा गर्ने छ। हामीलाई क्यै पनि फाइदा छैन।

2014-05-08 9:37 GMT+04:30, Srijana Timsina <timsi...@gmail.com>:
> Dear all
> Its really great news for wikipedians  and great opportunity to Ncell
> mobile user.
>
>
> Dear Ram Prasad ji
> Ncell ले भनेको छ नि त केही प्रविधिक समस्याका कारण ओपेरा मीनी ब्याउजन र
> ब्लाकबेरी फोनमा जिरो विकिपिडिया चल्लेछैन।
>
>
>
> Best regards
> Srijana Timsina
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Saroj Dhakal
> <lotusn...@gmail.com>wrote:

>
>> But one has to use system default browser . Specific to Ram Prasad
>> Ji's case he was using opera mini which can not access Wikipedia
>> zero, he will have to use Nokia browser in his Nokia Phone .
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Saroj
>> On May 8, 2014 10:03 AM, "Milan M. Sharma"
>> <milan....@ncell.com.np>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  Dear Krish Ji,
>>>
>>> We are glad to inform you that you can edit and add new information
>>> with Wikipedia Zero from Ncell. The service facilitates adding many
>>> more information about Nepal, bolstering Nepal’s presence and
>>> enriching Nepali content in the largest online encyclopedia.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> *Milan Sharma*

>>>
>>> Expert - Corporate Communication, CEO Office
>>>
>>> Tel    +977 980  555 4404
>>>
>>> Fax   +977 980 555 4442
>>>

>>>
>>> Ncell, Part of TeliaSonera Group
>>>
>>> Krishna Towers, New Baneshwor, Kathmandu-10, Nepal
>>>
>>> www.teliasonera.com
>>>
>>> www.ncell.com.np
>>>
>>> [image: 1_Ncell_Full_R]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Krish Dulal [mailto:krish...@gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 8, 2014 9:18 AM
>>> *To:* committee_...@googlegroups.com; Ramesh Tiwari
>>> *Cc:* Carolynne Schloeder; Ganesh Paudel; Nepali Wikipedia; James

>>> Heilman; Yana Welinder; Kul Wadhwa; Ncellinfo; Sanju Koirala;
>>> Wikipedia Zero; सरोज कुमार ढकाल;
>>> committee_nepali...@googlegroups.com;
>>> Hempal Shrestha; lotasn...@gmail.com; Nabin Sapkota; Rajesh
>>> Pandey
>>> *Subject:* RE: Wikpedia Zero from NCell in Nepal

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> सम्पादन गर्न चाहि नमिल्ने होला नि त😊
>>>   ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From: *Nirmal Dulal <nrml...@gmail.com>
>>> *Sent: *‎07/‎05/‎2014 21:25
>>> *To: *Ramesh Tiwari <rt96...@gmail.com>
>>> *Cc: *Carolynne Schloeder <cschl...@wikimedia.org>; Ganesh
>>> Paudel<gpa...@gmail.com>; committee_...@googlegroups.com;
>>> Nepali Wikipedia<nepal...@googlegroups.com>;
>>> James Heilman <jmh...@gmail.com>; Yana Welinder
>>> <ywel...@wikimedia.org>; Kul Wadhwa <kwa...@wikimedia.org>;
>>> in...@ncell.com.np; sanju....@ncell.com.np; Wikipedia Zero
>>> <wikipe...@wikimedia.org>; सरोज कुमार ढकाल
>>> <lotusn...@gmail.com>;
>>> committee_nepali...@googlegroups.com; Hempal
>>> Shrestha<hempals...@gmail.com>;
>>> lotasn...@gmail.com; Nabin Sapkota
>>> <nboycrea...@gmail.com>; Rajesh Pandey
>>> <pandey...@gmail.com>
>>> *Subject: *Re: Wikpedia Zero from NCell in Nepal

>>>
>>> It was a great news about,specially for Nepal. It helps to promote
>>> editing Wikipedia here. and Thanks to ncell which play a great roll
>>> on this.........
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Nirmal
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-05-08 6:46 GMT+05:45 Ramesh Tiwari <rt96...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> एनसेलले जिरो विकिपीडिया चलाएको छ भन्ने संदेस पाएर खुशी लाग्यो। मैले
>>> http://ne.zero.wikipedia.org लगअन गरेर हेरें तर त्यहाँ माफ गर्नुहोला
>>> तपाइँको मोबाइलमा यो सेवा उपलब्ध छैन भन्ने संदेस मिल्यो। मैले नोकिया
>>> कम्पनीको मोबाइल प्रयोग गर्छु, विकि सम्पादनको लागी मैले ओपेरा मिनी
>>> ब्रौजरको प्रयोग गर्छु, म एनसेल नेटवर्कको प्रयोग गर्छु। मैले जिरो
>>> विकिपीडियाको सुविधा लिन के गर्नु पर्ला कृपया कोशिस गर्नुहोला। राम
>>> प्रसाद जोशी- मो॰ +9779816527137
>>>
>>>
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Saroj Dhakal

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Hi Krish Ji and Ram Prasad Ji,

Please find following snippet from Ncell Press release :

  • This service is available for all Ncell customers.
  • This service is not available on BlackBerry, Opera mini and other proxy browser handsets and data charges will apply. Mobile browsers (for example Nokia Xpress) on some handsets are proxy browsers. Accessing Wikipedia via these browsers may result in data charging.
  • Customer may get charged in background for other mobile phone applications which consumes data. This can be controlled by turning off such applications.
Thanks,
Saroj


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2014-05-09 10:50 GMT+05:45 Ramesh Tiwari <rt96...@gmail.com>:
> हेमपालजी, सरोजजी, निर्मलजी, कृशजी, गणेशजी, राजेशजी, सृजनाजी, मिलनजी,
> सन्जुजी लगायत सबैलाई नमस्कार! विकिपीडिया जिरो योजनाको सूचारु गरेकोमा
> विकिमिडिया फाउण्डेशन र एनसेलका सबै मित्रहरूलाइ धन्यवाद! मलाई थाह छ खास
> गरेर यो योजना मेरो सुविधाको लागी सूचारु गरिएको छ। हाल मैले नोकिया X2
> मोबाइल सेट प्रयोग गरेको हुनाले मलाई यो सुविधा अलि झंझटिलो महसुस भएको
> छ। यदी ओपेरा मिनि ब्रौजरमा पनि यो योजना सक्रिय पार्न सकेको भए मलाई
> सजिलो हुने थियो। मेरो मोबाइलमा मोबाइल साइटको प्रयोग गरेर विकिपीडियाका
> ठुला पेजहरू सम्पादन गर्न र खोल्न असजिलो भएको छ। यदी ओपेराको लागी यो
> सेवा उपलब्ध गर्न सकिन्न भने पनि म यो सेवाको फाइदा लिने प्रयासमा छु।
> यसकालागी मैले मोबाइल सेट अर्को खाले राख्नु पर्ने भयो जसमा मोबाइल साइट
> प्रयोग गरेर विकिपीडियाका ठुला पेजहरू खोलेर सम्पादन गर्न सजिलो होस्
> यस्तो कुन सेट उपयुक्त होला ? कृपया जानकारी दिनुहोला भन्ने पूर्ण
> विस्वासका साथ अनुरोध गर्दछु। मेरो सुविधाको लागी यति गर्नु भएकोमा म
> फेरी पनि सम्बन्धित पक्षलाई धन्यवाद दिन चाहन्छु।
> --राम प्रसाद जोशी "रमेश तिवारी"
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> 2014-05-08 21:13 GMT+04:30, Saroj Dhakal <lotusn...@gmail.com>:
>> Hi Krish Ji and Ram Prasad Ji,
>>
>> Please find following snippet from Ncell Press
>> release<http://www.ncell.com.np/Internet/Rates-and-Information/Latest-Internet-Offer/Free-Wikipedia.aspx>:
>>
>>
>> - This service is available for all Ncell customers.
>> - This service is not available on BlackBerry, Opera mini and other
>> proxy browser handsets and data charges will apply. Mobile browsers (for
>> example Nokia Xpress) on some handsets are proxy browsers. Accessing
>> Wikipedia via these browsers may result in data charging.
>> - Customer may get charged in background for other mobile phone
>> applications which consumes data. This can be controlled by turning off
>> such applications.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Saroj
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Krish Dulal <krish...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanx Milan jee,
>>> But still in confusion...
>>> Why you suggest Ramesh jee to use www.wikipedia.org from desktop?
>>> Is it free of cost too...????
>>> ------------------------------
>>> From: Milan M. Sharma <milan....@ncell.com.np>
>>> Sent: ‎08/‎05/‎2014 03:48
>>> To: rt96...@gmail.com
>>> Cc: committee_...@googlegroups.com; lotasn...@gmail.com;
>>> hempals...@gmail.com; Ncellinfo <in...@ncell.com.np>;
>>> Sanju Koirala <sanju....@ncell.com.np>; nepal...@googlegroups.com;

Ganesh

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