Re: [neonixie-l] Digest for neonixie-l@googlegroups.com - 16 updates in 3 topics

[David Weiner]

have not got a post since feb 9th ??? help westdave

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• MPSA42 troubles - 5 Updates
• Grain-of-wheat light-pipe displays - 1 Update

ZIN18

Dan Hollis <parkxz...@anime.net>: Feb 09 01:49AM -0800

Jon <deka...@nomotron.com>: Feb 09 03:44AM -0800 Impressed with the technical achievement, and great to see the manufacturing video. We should salute these guys just as we do Dalibor.   I actually think the price point of $100 for any new manufactured nixie is very fair taking into account the labour involved in producing each tube and the equipment investment/R&D required to get to the point of being able to make and sell the first tube. The question in my mind on this one is more about *what* that new nixie is for the money, and how it fits with the competition - not sure it's smart to pretty much go head to head with NOS IN-18 which are readily available at half the price with a well established performance / reliability profile. Doesn't seem the most impactful use of all of the admirable expertise and capability. This is where Dalibor has got it absolutely right - there simply aren't very many Z5680 around at any price to effectively compete with him.   If I were these guys, I'd turn the attention to producing a more differentiated tube - maybe a 60mm digit height. Assuming of course that there isn't a fundamental availability / price problem with the raw materials for that.   Jon.

Paul Andrews <pa...@nixies.us>: Feb 09 03:48AM -0800 I agree with Jeff about the size of the base, and it does seem odd that they are priced at more than the IN-18. Do Millclok know something we don’t?   However, it is still good to see new tubes being made.

Jon <deka...@nomotron.com>: Feb 09 05:46AM -0800 PS... Perhaps a mod could give this thread a meaningful title?

gregebert <greg...@hotmail.com>: Feb 09 09:40AM -0800 Considering only 3 USD has been pledged so far, they have a long way to go and there isn't a lot of confidence from investors.   They should have several batches of tubes running thru burn-in, and I did not see that in the video; I dont know how they can backup a 15 year warranty if tube lifetime is unknown. I would be running several tubes at elevated current & temperature.

Paul Andrews <pa...@nixies.us>: Feb 09 10:52AM -0800 Yesterday there was around $390 pledged. I wasn't aware that an investor could back out? If Millclock decide not to go ahead with this particular tube, I hope they *do* go ahead with something.   On Saturday, February 9, 2019 at 12:40:29 PM UTC-5, gregebert wrote:

Alic <al...@gmx.net>: Feb 09 11:09AM -0800 Dalibor’s tube is the cheapest in that digit size category. Millclock’s tube is expensive compared to todays price of the IN-18 but I think that back when it was made the price was higher than that and the IN-18 was produced in huge quantities.   Also, the Millclcok nixie has electronics in the base if I have read the campaign correctly.

"Kevin A." <ka...@scarletmail.rutgers.edu>: Feb 09 02:53PM -0500 I just pledged for 1 tube.   Interested to see where this goes, and if he delivers or not.   When/if I get it I'll be sure to share the details with everyone!

"alb.001 alb.001" <alb...@sympatico.ca>: Feb 09 07:09PM -0500 I have a set of a ratchet driver and sockets that were sold by the largest department store in Canada - Eaton's which offered a lifetime warrantee on this product. I still use it but store is long gone - just like Sears there is no warrantee service available any more. Giving a 15 year guarantee on an untested product is just smoke and of no value. What if the seller changes their company name and they no longer exit ? They might still use the same address and contact information but they no longer "exist" I have this very issue with the company that built my house - they changed their name and when I called about poor quality they answered the phone but said they were now a "different company" and did not do warrantee service under their first name, and then they blocked me from calling them any more.   ---------- Original Message ----------   From: gregebert <greg...@hotmail.com>   Date: February 9, 2019 at 12:40 PM   Considering only 3 USD has been pledged so far, they have a long way to go and there isn't a lot of confidence from investors.   They should have several batches of tubes running thru burn-in, and I did not see that in the video; I dont know how they can backup a 15 year warranty if tube lifetime is unknown.   I would be running several tubes at elevated current & temperature.   --   You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group.   To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com.   To post to this group, send email to neoni...@googlegroups.com.   To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/1e26bd43-7f34-425a-ad42-01f2f2648be7%40googlegroups.com.   For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

"Kevin A." <ka...@scarletmail.rutgers.edu>: Feb 09 08:27PM -0800 I would be dubious about the 15 year warranty, but we'll see how responsive he is as far as customer support. I'd like to be optimistic and think that most people who are into nixies are because they like nixie tubes and not because they are out to scam people in a boutique market.

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MPSA42 troubles

David Forbes <nixie...@gmail.com>: Feb 09 08:49AM -0700 Sounds like you have some transistor-shaped objects. I only buy parts from Digikey and Mouser, and the occasional Adafruit purchase.   This is why.

GastonP <ghpi...@gmail.com>: Feb 09 10:10AM -0800 Did you verify that you verified that the layout is E-B-C? Or is it B-C-E?   On Friday, February 8, 2019 at 9:35:14 PM UTC-3, Thomas Kummer wrote:

David Forbes <nixie...@gmail.com>: Feb 09 11:22AM -0700 That's a good point. I was a bit surprised that the transistor said "A42" and not "MPSA42", as it should. Perhaps it's a 2SA42!   The MPS series was started by Motorola, which is no longer in the component business.

Thomas Kummer <tmkumm...@gmail.com>: Feb 09 07:00PM -0500 When I plug it into a multimeter’s hFE slot for E-B-C I get a reading of 140 hFE, when I plug it into the B-C-E slot I get a quick 1600 hFE, and then just a 1 in the far left digit of the screen almost like a processing/measuring reading, like what the multimeter does when you measure V and you first put it on the V source.   Sent from my iPhone

gregebert <greg...@hotmail.com>: Feb 09 05:43PM -0800 This is where a curve-tracer really comes in-handy. Sadly, even old used ones are a bit expensive compared to scopes from the same era. I've been tempted many times over the years to design my own, but like most projects I dream-up I never get time to build them.

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Grain-of-wheat light-pipe displays

blkadder <mgb...@bellsouth.net>: Feb 09 10:16AM -0800 Mike, I love the look of this clock. Where did you find a case like this? Ron

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[Nick]

As I mentioned, your settings at this end seem fine. I'll send you a test message via the forum - please let me know via this thread if you get it...

Nick