What is going on with IN18 tubes?

156 views
Skip to first unread message

Nicholas Stock

unread,
Feb 1, 2016, 4:04:33 PM2/1/16
to neoni...@googlegroups.com
Anybody else noted that the prices of IN18's are going north in a hurry?

Mich...@aol.com

unread,
Feb 1, 2016, 4:06:20 PM2/1/16
to neoni...@googlegroups.com
Yeah!
 
The problem is that the value of the dollar is going down faster than the price of the tubes going up.   So, it's about the same.   :)
 
Michail
 
In a message dated 2/1/2016 1:04:35 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, nick...@gmail.com writes:
Anybody else noted that the prices of IN18's are going north in a hurry?

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to neoni...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAOX%2BRHL1BuJ96XAqzeTihC7QJU7NjDg%3D4JvcNfaEPt_Vmu3gRA%40mail.gmail.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

chuck richards

unread,
Feb 1, 2016, 4:15:16 PM2/1/16
to neoni...@googlegroups.com
Yep, it's currency devaluation. Welcome to hyperinflation.
Weimar Republic, ca 1935, here we come!


>
>
>---- Original Message ----
>From: neoni...@googlegroups.com
>To: neoni...@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] What is going on with IN18 tubes?
>Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2016 16:06:19 -0500
>
>>Yeah!
>>
>>The problem is that the value of the dollar is going down faster
>than the
>>price of the tubes going up. So, it's about the same. :)
>>
>>Michail
>>
>>
>>In a message dated 2/1/2016 1:04:35 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
>>nick...@gmail.com writes:
>>
>>Anybody else noted that the prices of IN18's are going north in a
>hurry?
>>
>>--
>>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>Groups
>>"neonixie-l" group.
>>To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,
>send an
>>email to _neonixie-l...@googlegroups.com_
>>(mailto:neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com) .
>>To post to this group, send email to _neon...@googlegroups.com_
>>(mailto:neoni...@googlegroups.com) .
>>To view this discussion on the web, visit
>>_https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAOX%2BRHL1BuJ96XAqzeT
>ihC7QJU7NjDg%3D4JvcNfaEPt_Vmu3gRA%40mail.
>>gmail.com_
>>(https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAOX+RHL1BuJ96XAqzeTih
>C7QJU7NjDg=4JvcNfaEP...@mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_sou
>rce=
>>footer) .
>>For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>
>>
>>--
>>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>Groups "neonixie-l" group.
>>To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,
>send an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com.
>>To post to this group, send an email to neoni...@googlegroups.com.
>>To view this discussion on the web, visit
>https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/4442f3.5be142e3.43e122cb
>%40aol.com.
>>For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>



$4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details!

Dylan Distasio

unread,
Feb 1, 2016, 4:15:30 PM2/1/16
to neoni...@googlegroups.com
Actually, if we're talking about US dollars, it has been going up against other currencies for the most part.

Nicholas Stock

unread,
Feb 1, 2016, 4:24:25 PM2/1/16
to neoni...@googlegroups.com
I haven't noticed a similar increase in other tubes from Russia/Ukraine....it's more than just currency fluctuations perhaps?

Sent from my iPhone

Instrument Resources of America

unread,
Feb 1, 2016, 4:24:41 PM2/1/16
to neoni...@googlegroups.com
A wheelbarrow, full of $$$$$$, just might buy you one loaf of
bread!!!! Ira.
IRACOSALES.vcf

gregebert

unread,
Feb 1, 2016, 4:27:00 PM2/1/16
to neonixie-l
On Monday, February 1, 2016 at 1:15:30 PM UTC-8, William Lee wrote:
Actually, if we're talking about US dollars, it has been going up against other currencies for the most part.


I think it's more a matter of supply vs demand; people are apparently willing to pay $350 US for six IN-18's on Ebay. There has been a roughly 20% drop in the value of  Hryvnia versus the dollar over the past few months, so the cost of IN-18's should actually be decreasing rather than increasing.

Greg P

unread,
Feb 1, 2016, 4:34:02 PM2/1/16
to neonixie-l
Or maybe the supply is finally drying up after all these years?  I doubt it as there seems to be unlimited supply of these.  I'd assume it's more price fixing by the (to quote the late Jeff Thomas) "Ukrainian Tube Cartel".

Terry S

unread,
Feb 1, 2016, 4:38:51 PM2/1/16
to neonixie-l
Actually, if you watch ebay, very few are selling. Lots of auctions but few close with a sale. The price may come back to something more reasonable.

The dollar is very strong right now, it should translate to lower prices.

And of course, the IN-18 is not a commodity. It's a scarce resource that is not in production. Over time the price can only average up. Demand can drive the price up, but supply can never really drive it down, unless a huge hoard is revealed.

I started designing my Arduino based IN-18 clock a year ago. Tubes were about $30 then. I took a hiatus from that design and recently picked it up again, but it may not be worth finishing. I have my own personal stash of tubes, but not enough to sell kits. Do I make the PCBs and write code for just a few clocks? I'm not sure if the market will bear the cost of clocks with a $350 tube price.

Terry

kosbo.com

unread,
Feb 1, 2016, 4:43:36 PM2/1/16
to neonixie-l


On Monday, February 1, 2016 at 9:34:02 PM UTC, Greg P wrote:
Or maybe the supply is finally drying up after all these years?  I doubt it as there seems to be unlimited supply of these.  I'd assume it's more price fixing by the (to quote the late Jeff Thomas) "Ukrainian Tube Cartel".



Yes, looks like you are right. I regular buy IN-18 tubes for my clocks, but within last 3-4 month, I can not find good  (NOS) IN-18 tubes in Russia or Ukraine, spoke to a few Ukrainian  suppliers, they said IN-18 tubes are not easy to find...

Mich...@aol.com

unread,
Feb 1, 2016, 5:00:26 PM2/1/16
to neoni...@googlegroups.com
Wow,
 
Guess it's time for me to start posting them although I only have a box.  :)
 
RE: Few being sold?
I see one auction that has sold 4 sets of the $350 batch and another sold 18 sets at the $350 price.  So, seems strong the price has gone up.
 
Michail

Greg P

unread,
Feb 1, 2016, 9:00:22 PM2/1/16
to neonixie-l
Make your clock, Terry.  IN-18 prices haven't stopped Pete of PV Electronics from selling a boatload of his kits.  And Dieter has sold out of his IN-18 clock as well.  
Reply all
Reply to author
Forward
0 new messages