Question on SN74142s

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Dylan Distasio

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Feb 23, 2012, 9:11:07 PM2/23/12
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Hi all-

I recently picked up 2 SN74142 ICs.  I'm about to show my ignorance again, but can someone with some patience walk me through how I would use these in a nixie clock.  I'm familiar with the 74141s but have to admit after reading the SN74142 datasheet I am not entirely sure how this one works.  I am still a beginner at digital logic, and would appreciate any help with utlizing a combo of a decimal counter / 4-bit latch /decimal decoder/ nixie driver in one IC.
 
 
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Dylan

David Forbes

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Feb 23, 2012, 9:44:03 PM2/23/12
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Dylan,

Lucky man! I've never seen one of those chips in person.

I have used the old CMOS more-or-less equivalent, the CD4033 (which
drives 7-segment LEDs) to make a clock. You will need to wire the latch
in transparent mode, as the latch function is not needed for a clock.

RCA published an app note in their 1974 data book that I built in 1976.
It worked. I'll see if my scanner will cooperate enough to scan the app
note.

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Adam Jacobs

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Feb 24, 2012, 12:15:54 AM2/24/12
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They're also covered in the TTL Cookbook (That's where I found out about them)... Where did you find them?!?

-Adam



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chuck richards

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Feb 25, 2012, 6:25:54 PM2/25/12
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Ahh, I agree with David on this one.
Lucky. I have been working with this stuff since
around 1990, and during that time have only ever found
a small bunch of (10) of those 74142 ics. They are
extremely rare, made of pure unobtainium!

They are the equivalent of a decade counter connected to
a 74141 and all in one 16-pin DIP package.

TTL cookbook page 93 describes it.

Some notes from last time I had mine fired up:

Counter clear pin 1 is very sensitive to noise.
If using a 2.2k pullup resistor, a .01 uf or a .1 uF
to gnd. keeps the full count going. Without the cap,
the count goes 0 1 2 3 4 5 0

Carry out pin 14 stays high for all counts except 8 and 9.
Carry is low for counts 8 and 9, and it returns high when
count 0 is reached.

74142 belongs in a glass case, temperature and humidity
controlled, low light, nitrogen atmosphere.

Chuck

>>>> Datasheet http://diogenes.iwt.uni-**bremen.de/vt/laser/nixie/**
>>>>
>SN74142.pdf<http://diogenes.iwt.uni-bremen.de/vt/laser/nixie/SN74142.
>pdf>


>>>> Best,
>>>> Dylan
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Dylan,
>>>
>>> Lucky man! I've never seen one of those chips in person.
>>>
>>> I have used the old CMOS more-or-less equivalent, the CD4033
>(which drives
>>> 7-segment LEDs) to make a clock. You will need to wire the latch
>in
>>> transparent mode, as the latch function is not needed for a clock.
>>>
>>> RCA published an app note in their 1974 data book that I built in
>1976. It
>>> worked. I'll see if my scanner will cooperate enough to scan the
>app note.
>>>
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Dylan Distasio

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Feb 25, 2012, 9:06:26 PM2/25/12
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I uploaded a picture in case anyone is interested in it:
 
 
Also, to answer Adam's question on where I was lucky enough to find them, it was Ralph's Industrial Electronic Supplies on the web.  Unfortunately, they didn't have any additional stock or source for more.

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