Creo Elements Direct Modeling Crack 181
Gema Shisila
I'm still looking for a straight answer to all of this. From what I hear, there is CoCreate as Creo Elements Direct and it has an -optional- drafting extension (?!) and then you have the extension to Creo Parametric that is "flexible modeling" or "direct modeling" (often mixed in the same conversation). I am in the market for upgrading but I really don't know what to buy or even what the final cost will be. Still waiting for an answer. Its been a week!
Creo/Elements Direct is actually CoCreate Modeling, a complete high end 3D CAD Direct (non-history based) modeling system. It includes the Annotation module for creating 2D drawings that are associative with the 3D models and assys. Additional modules include an excellent Sheetmetal module, a Surfacing module, FEA, mechanism simulation, etc.
Where Pro/E is great for parametric modeling, Creo/Elements Direct is great for development, especially when you're not sure were your design will end up. I have modeled thousands of models in Creo/Elements Direct without ever needing tore-model a part.
Creo/Direct is actually a lightweight Pro/E engine with a user interface that hides the history tree. So, the commands work like direct modeling commands, but in reality, a history is building up. When you open a Creo/Direct model in Creo/Parametric, you will see this tree. This means that if someone is using Creo/Direct in a messy way, you will end up with an unusable part. In Creo/Elements Direct there is no such history, so the user doesn't have to think about modeling strategies. On the other hand, if you open such a model in Creo Parametric, the tree is empty.
So, Creo/Direct is aimed at non-CAD users, who can makesimple modifications onCreo Parametricmodelswith it. For serious modifications on ProE models,Creo Parametric's Flexible Modeling Extension is the way to go, because it allows powerful direct modeling without messing up the history tree.
in the latest version of Creo Elements Direct you can open native .PRT and .ASM files. Since Creo Elements Direct has no history tree, modifying imported models is not different from modifying native models, so it's very easy to work on imported Creo Parametric models.
Along with the other functions Jaap mentioned, Creo Elements Direct Modeling also has a parametric module called advanced assembly, which we have used to create parametric models for steel bridge cross member; a complete animation module with we have used to make avi movies to animate fabrication and erection procedure from our 3D models; and there is a fully functional stand alone 2D drafting package called Creo Elements Direct Drafting (formally CoCreate Drafting). It is a pretty awesome package.
Creo Elements/Direct Modeling is the most comprehensive direct modeling system on the market, with a full range of extensions to meet your specialized needs. So, bring on your most radical design change or that one-off product: the software is intuitive, robust, and up to the task even with massive assemblies. Moreover, you or anyone on your team can pick up and work on a direct 3D product with minimal ramp-up time. Try it. You can easily incorporate multi-CAD data from partners or suppliers and then go on to produce a digital prototype or proposal quickly.
When you're facing down design challenges or in a race for time, you'll appreciate how straightforward and flexible Creo Elements/Direct Modeling is. With Creo Elements Direct Modeling, the faster your product gets to market, the more rapidly revenue is generated for your business.
1. Elements direct has entered 'maintenance mode', as no real development efforts are made anymore, it's in some distant corner of the website, and the original development team doesn't exist anymore.
2. Creo Direct (positioned as the new direct modeler where we could migrate to) is not going anywhere and isn't positioned as next step for Elements Direct anymore. It's not even mentioned as Creo CAD anymore (only parametric is there now).
For our business the direct modeling is vital and there currently is no good alternative available. Also, we have a lot of software developed on top of Elements Direct. So we decided to hold on (for now with maintenance), but start investigating other CAD options and keep an eye on all the developments. My first impression is that we will definitely not switch to Creo Parametric. PTC doesn't seem to keep our interests high on their priority list and parametric doesn't match with our business. I think we will start testing Solid Edge Synchronous technology as our first step. At this point maintenance is only an insurance for future platform support, but even new versions can be tricky. For us version 19 already had more new bugs than features, but there was windows 10 support. Not sure how long we will keep maintenance. It's a gamble how long the software works nicely on new versions of windows and graphics cards.
That would be nice, but I don't see it happening. If the core developers are gone it is hard to get the knowledge back. But I don't understand why they bought it in the first place. If they don't need/want the direct modeling technology, why buy it? I can't imagine they needed it to make the flexible modeling extension, as that is completely different technology. It part still puzzles me.
It is my understanding from the TC meeting that I had attended that the direction of Creo Direct is not a replacement of Creo Elements/Direct Modeling. Creo Direct development is hard pressed to make it a mature enough of a product to replace Elements/Direct Modeling in a realistic time frame. So the plan for Creo Direct as mentioned to me was for it to become a concept modeling tool. With PTC focusing on adding direct modeling capabilities to Creo Parametric these have to be in step with what they add to Creo Direct since it is the same if not similar functionality under the hood i.e. Sheet Metal added to Creo Direct and that functionality being added to Creo Parametric Sheet Metal to improve its functionality to match what Creo Elements Direct Modeling's Sheet Metal already has in it.
And as of yet I have heard no official announcement from the product managers that Elements Direct Modeling/Annotator or Drafting is in a sun setting position this is only happening for Model Manager.
Elements Direct is not sun setted... yet. When you cease development and only do bugfixing, in software this means it will be way behind in a few years and thus will be sun setted. Otherwise they will need to invest a lot of time to 'keep up' and that is not realistic.
Thanks for that info Thomas. If you told me only existing customers could still buy new licenses I would believe that as well. So, good to know they are not there yet. But for us: when they stop selling licenses we have a problem. This would mean we can't get a license when we need an extra engineer, and migrating to another system takes a lot of time. We cannot migrate in a year, it will probably take a few, so we need to be prepared a bit.
Why does it seem direct modeling is becoming smaller and smaller? Most history based modelers are adding 'direct modeling'-ish functionality, because changing models in a history based modeler is seriously more complex than in a direct modeler. To me it seems Direct Modeling is becoming more important. History based modeling has it's place, but it is over used. But Direct Modeling also has it's place. It makes you a lot more flexible and in today's market flexibility is more and more expected. We, as a full engineering-to-order company, can only exist because of this flexibility.
Creo Direct was pitched as the follow-up for Elements Direct, but that strategy is gone. They don't even mention Creo Direct anymore in the Creo CAD section of the website. Also, have you tried Creo Direct 4.0? It is a joke compared to Elements Direct. It is at least 7 years in development and they still are not close to a 'One space' approach as Elements Direct has. They are not even half way and the last 20% is the most difficult to achieve.
I do think they will kill Elements Direct (as I explained in the question), but the question is: what to do next? For us Parametric with flexible modeling is not an option. It is not usable for our needs.
If they had a real Elements Direct replacement, where I would have to rebuild all of our lisp-code and migrate from Model Manager to something else I would accept that, but currently, they have nothing but are killing Elements Direct...
Those advances in Creo 4.0 don't do any good to those of us who want to continue using Creo Elements/Direct. When you start commenting about the direct modeling capabilities in Creo, we start believing that PTC wants to force us to move from Creo Elements/Direct Modeling to Creo. And talking about "upward compatibility" between Creo Elements/Direct and Creo further emphasizes that PTC wants us to migrate from Creo Elements/Direct to Creo; why aren't you also working on improving the ability to go from Creo to Creo Elements/Direct as well?
While I agree that having direct and parametric capabilities in combination is what is going to be the best in the future, I would like to see the parametric capabilities of Creo Elements/Direct Modeling expanded and improved rather than going to Creo.
The "What's New" page is usually updated for each new version of the application released. You can also see the "What's New" information for the version you are running by clicking on the question mark drop down in the upper right corner of the main window and select the "What's New" option also the Readme option has good information in it as well.
You can also find a complete list of Fixes and Enhancements to the version 20.0 or 19.0 by going to the e-Support page and under the Software download area there is a link to a PDF file listing these.
PDS Vision (UK), are having an "Open Day" at the end of this month, where we've scheduled several key PTC personnel to present and speak about the latest Creo Elements\Direct applications, it's direction and roadmap. It should be a good platform that would hopefully ease various concerns that have been raised on this thread! I appreciate not all of you are UK based, but for those that might be available to attend, we'd love to see you there, so please feel free to register on the link below:
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