The Silent Mind and the Immeasurable : A Dialogue

[Anurag Jain]

The Silent Mind and the Immeasurable : A Dialogue

Hi Anurag,

There is a deep knowing that I am not my thoughts , thoughts patterns , habits and even emotions. 

By my self enquiry what I have understood is that all the emotions are always followed by the thoughts. If I am thinking positive thoughts then my emotions are pleasurable and when there is negative thoughts in my mind then emotions are not pleasurable.

But now a days when I become absolute Present there are less and less thoughts and there are instances when there is no thought still I get a blissful state . A state there is no conflict , no heaviness, burden of past and future  just inner peace. So I guess this state is me ?? I am this state without any identity and labeling. Because if this state is  coming from the conditioned mind then there must be thoughts first then emotions ,right ???

So there is definitely something beyond thoughts and emotions . Just pure awareness . Just pure witnessing without identifying with anything. 

Can we say this experience of mine is of Consciousness or I am deluding my myself ?? Because self deception is biggest obstacle in this path of self REALIZATION ?

What is your opinion on this ?


Anurag :
 

If you were confident you would not asking me for validation isn't it?

The mind is an amazing instrument and it's movements are many. 

Nowadays there is an explosion of spiritual literature on the net and we read a lot, so sooner or later you come upon these teachings of Vedanta etc. which talks about awareness and witness. 

But all this is still the mind. It is all within the field of measurement. 

The immeasurable cannot come in the net of the mind. The mind cannot approach it in any way. It only comes (if it has to come) when the mind has fallen silent. 

The silence created by any discipline or method or any path is a dead silence. It is not the silence in which the immeasurable can come. 

Only when the mind falls silent without any effort, is the real silence. This silence is not an achievement, an experience to be gained or secured or wished for. It is a silence that comes when thought has come to an end. When the mind has become empty of all psychological becoming at every level. No practice can bring about this. It can happen when one lives totally and deeply, not caught in any mechanical pattern of thought like security, fear or desire. An ascetic, yogi, tantric or follower of any single path cannot come to this silence because they are all caught up with the same mechanical patterns of mind and psychological becoming as those who are pursuing materialistic aims. They may have their experiences according to the paths they have followed. Nor can the knowledge of Vedanta - You are Awareness, Brahman etc. take you to the immeasurable. All knowledge is of the known.

The unknown and the immeasurable is not the result of any effort or will or knowledge.  When one puts effort one already starts with an aim in mind. That means the mind has already conceived the end. This is the only way one can put effort and have a direction in life, and whatever can be conceived by the mind lies in the field of measurement. 

The immeasurable cannot be conceived so how can one put any will or effort towards it. All effort, will or discipline is a denial of silence. Any form of wish to have experiences is a denial of silence. A desire for silence is a denial of silence. 

Silence comes about when there is a negation of all psychological becoming. When one is in a  state of choiceless awareness of what is, without resistance, without escaping into ideas, ideals and values, there is a beginning of silence that starts penetrating unknown depths.

Our daily life, our relationships, our work is the ground where we can start becoming aware of this amazing machinery of the mind; all its ingenuous movements to perpetuate itself. One does not have to seek anywhere else. In being choicelessly aware of the mind through all its movements when we are seeing, talking, working and relating, without any escaping, the workings of the mind are revealed and we can see the false as the false.  When all falsity is seen; not conceptually, not intellectually; then if it chooses, the immeasurable, that creative reality can contact one. 

Warm wishes,
Anurag