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Jake's Brakes prohibited in Ogunquit. Huh?

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Ron Newman

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Nov 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/1/99
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Signs on Route 1A in Ogunquit, Maine, inform travellers
that the use of "JAKE'S BRAKES" is prohibited within the town.

What are these? How would I know whether my rental car
uses them?

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Ron Newman rne...@thecia.net
http://www2.thecia.net/users/rnewman/home.html


Philip Borenstein

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Nov 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/1/99
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Ron Newman wrote:
>
> Signs on Route 1A in Ogunquit, Maine, inform travellers
> that the use of "JAKE'S BRAKES" is prohibited within the town.
>
> What are these? How would I know whether my rental car
> uses them?

That's the thing about the Web: not only does my own idle curiosity take up
valuable time, but everybody else's does too.

As an earlier post mentioned, it's a braking system for diesel trucks. More than
you really want to know is available at:

http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mjake.html

Christopher Garlick

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Nov 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/1/99
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so for idiots like me, I am assuming the reason why ogunquit is prohibited
is b.c of noise pollution caused by the engine?

On 1 Nov 1999, Dave Mitchell wrote:

> Date: 1 Nov 1999 12:44:29 -0500
> From: Dave Mitchell <d...@pod.orca.com>
> Newsgroups: ne.general, ne.transportation
> Subject: Re: Jake's Brakes prohibited in Ogunquit. Huh?
>
> In article <7vkfni$26...@edrn.newsguy.com>,


> Ron Newman <rne...@thecia.net> wrote:
> >Signs on Route 1A in Ogunquit, Maine, inform travellers
> >that the use of "JAKE'S BRAKES" is prohibited within the town.
> >
> >What are these? How would I know whether my rental car
> >uses them?
>

> If you have to ask, you don't have to worry. Jake brakes are
> a mechanism on diesel trucks that uses engine compression to
> slow the truck down, avoiding overheating and wear on the normal
> brakes.
>
> IIRC, the name comes from the inventor/manufacturer, Jacobs
> Engine Brake Company (but you can look that up as easily as I
> can).
>
> Do you really think your rental car is likely to have some sort
> of braking mechanism so potent that it'll be outlawed in a
> small town? :-)
>
> dave
>


Ronald Roy Kappesser Unovald

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Christopher Garlick (cgar...@coe.neu.edu) wrote:
: so for idiots like me, I am assuming the reason why ogunquit is prohibited

: is b.c of noise pollution caused by the engine?

yep. They can be pretty loud.

Ron Newman

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On 1 Nov 1999 13:27:44 -0500, in article <7vkm30$5hf$1...@pod.orca.com>,
d...@pod.orca.com stated...
> The braking effect
> comes from using the engine's compression to slow the drive
> train, then releasing the pent-up gas out the exhaust (rather
> than letting it ignite to provide another round of power).
> This produces a loud staccato farting sound that should be
> familiar to anybody who has listened to diesels on a steep
> downgrade.

Is it really releasing uncombusted fuel out the exhaust? If so,
sounds like this is a source of air pollution as well.

Daniel Salomon

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Nov 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/1/99
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What I'd like to know is what gives the town the authority to make a law
like that?

-Dan

In ne.transportation Ron Newman <rne...@thecia.net> wrote:
: Signs on Route 1A in Ogunquit, Maine, inform travellers
: that the use of "JAKE'S BRAKES" is prohibited within the town.

rne...@thecia.net
: http://www2.thecia.net/users/rnewman/home.html


Roger Tobin

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Nov 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/1/99
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The Maine Turnpike Authority!!!!

The toll rates for cash users forced many trucks traveling to points
south of Portland onto Rte 1A. RV's also add to the conjestion. Trucks
detour via the exit servicing the Portland Mall from the Turnpike then
reenter on the free road by transiting a short distance on local roads.
This avoids the entry fee and the exit fee.

My usual commute to Seashore with a "Transpass" provides me with a
discount. Trucks with an appropriate account receive a discount. Add a
trailer to my vehicle and the discount is not valid. The additional
expense is more than the actual cost to travel Rte 1A to New Hampshire.
[ed. note the NH tokens are acceptable for the tow vehicle with a
trailer. Add the cash fee for the trailer and off I go with a smile on
my face!

Ron Newman

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Nov 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/1/99
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On 1 Nov 1999 08:39:14 -0800, in article <7vkfni$26...@edrn.newsguy.com>, Ron
stated...

>
>Signs on Route 1A in Ogunquit, Maine, inform travellers
>that the use of "JAKE'S BRAKES" is prohibited within the town.

Looking at my map again, I realize I was on Route 1, not 1A, when
I saw those signs. I don't think Route 1A exists in Ogunquit.

Rich Pass

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Nov 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/1/99
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Ron Newman <rne...@thecia.net> wrote in message
news:7vl64e$l...@edrn.newsguy.com...

> On 1 Nov 1999 08:39:14 -0800, in article <7vkfni$26...@edrn.newsguy.com>,
Ron
> stated...
> >
> >Signs on Route 1A in Ogunquit, Maine, inform travellers
> >that the use of "JAKE'S BRAKES" is prohibited within the town.
>
> Looking at my map again, I realize I was on Route 1, not 1A, when
> I saw those signs. I don't think Route 1A exists in Ogunquit.
>

That's right, Rt 1A starts (ends) in Cape Neddick, part of York. Ogunquit is
known for doing what they want in the town. The back roads that lead inland
off Rt1 are all posted at 25mph. The original agreement for state funding of
those roads required that they be posted 35mph as they are in York and
Wells. But Ogunquit tends to be very independent until they get caught.

The Jake's brake prohibition is probably a result of their noise level local
law which is very tough. The allowed DB level 15' from a property line is
much less than a vehicle going by on RT1.

Dick

John

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Nov 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/1/99
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A"Jake brake" is a Jacobs engine brake which are generally only used on
large trucks with diesel engines. Diesel engines build up much higher
pressure in the cylinders then gasoline ones, so if you shut off the fuel
to the cylinder the pressure in the cylinders when transmitted back to the
wheels will actually bring the truck to a complete stop. They are noisy.
Thats why many towns prohibit them, Especially late at night...

John Hinckley


In article <7vkfni$26...@edrn.newsguy.com>, Ron Newman <rne...@thecia.net>
wrote:

> Signs on Route 1A in Ogunquit, Maine, inform travellers


> that the use of "JAKE'S BRAKES" is prohibited within the town.
>

> What are these? How would I know whether my rental car
> uses them?
>

Steve Ketcham

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Nov 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/1/99
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In article <7vkfni$26...@edrn.newsguy.com>, Ron Newman <rne...@thecia.net>
wrote:

> Signs on Route 1A in Ogunquit, Maine, inform travellers
> that the use of "JAKE'S BRAKES" is prohibited within the town.
>
> What are these? How would I know whether my rental car
> uses them?

It doesn't, unless you rented an eighteen wheeler.

The Straight Dope answered this question in its own inimitable style. Go see

http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mjake.html

Steve

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Steve Ketcham Correct address is sgk at kersur.net
Milford, Massachusetts

Lee Hillsgrove

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Nov 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/2/99
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Ron Newman wrote in message <7vkfni$26...@edrn.newsguy.com>...

>Signs on Route 1A in Ogunquit, Maine, inform travellers
>that the use of "JAKE'S BRAKES" is prohibited within the town.
>
>What are these? How would I know whether my rental car
>uses them?


Ron,
Check out the following link for an explanation directly from Jacobs'
website.
I have already sent them an e-mail about the sign, but a firsthand account
would be better.

Lee
Oo-v-oO


http://www.jakebrake.com/askus/faq/jbn.htm#FAQ9

Nightbus

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Nov 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/4/99
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They are brakes on big Buses and Trucks where the engine retards the
brake to slow down Sets up a real "chatter" type muffler noise when
used.

Ron Newman wrote:
>
> Signs on Route 1A in Ogunquit, Maine, inform travellers
> that the use of "JAKE'S BRAKES" is prohibited within the town.
>
> What are these? How would I know whether my rental car
> uses them?
>

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