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Less expensive items. 2 days fresher produce. Bread & Circus Whole Foods Market. Johnnie's Foodmaster.

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Don Saklad

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Aug 22, 2004, 3:35:31 AM8/22/04
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Have you folks noticed that some items are
less expensive at the Bread & Circus Whole Foods Market
than at the Johnnie's Foodmaster ?...

Some produce is 2 days fresher at the Bread & Circus Whole Foods
Market than at the Johnnie's Foodmaster.

Fresher produce changes the comparing the price per pound at different
stores. There are more nutrients in fresher produce. Factoring in a
greater amount of nutrients would be price per pound of nutrients.

That would be more complicated, if calculating it all together would
be possible. Or can price per pound of nutrients actually in some
manner be calculated in the store aisle ?...

Dick Margulis

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Aug 22, 2004, 6:59:25 AM8/22/04
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Don Saklad wrote:

Bring Dustin Hoffman with you when you go shopping. Ask him to come as
Rainman.

EskW...@spamblock.panix.com

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Aug 22, 2004, 10:11:23 AM8/22/04
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In ne.food Don Saklad <dsa...@nestle.csail.mit.edu> wrote:
> Have you folks noticed that some items are
> less expensive at the Bread & Circus Whole Foods Market
> than at the Johnnie's Foodmaster ?...

I don't know about Johnnie's, but I've noticed that some stuff is cheaper
at B&C than at Shaw's.


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Robb Scott

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Aug 22, 2004, 11:05:44 AM8/22/04
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In article <10igv3r...@news.supernews.com>,
Dick Margulis <marg...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Bring Dustin Hoffman with you when you go shopping. Ask him to come as
> Rainman.

Wouldn't that be a bit redundant?

Dick Margulis

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Aug 22, 2004, 12:32:49 PM8/22/04
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Robb Scott wrote:

Safety in numbers.

Smokey

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Aug 22, 2004, 2:19:14 PM8/22/04
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"Don Saklad" <dsa...@nestle.csail.mit.edu> wrote in message
news:y44oel3...@nestle.csail.mit.edu...
[snip]

>
> Some produce is 2 days fresher at the Bread & Circus Whole Foods
> Market than at the Johnnie's Foodmaster.
> [snip]

How can you tell it's 2 days fresher at B&C?

Smokey


Robert La Ferla

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Aug 22, 2004, 8:34:34 PM8/22/04
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I was going to ask the same question. Why not 3 days fresher?

In general, the Whole Foods produce is generally better because they
offer a large selection of organic and locally grown produce. There's
also this misconception that everything and B+C is much more expensive.
You will be surprised that there are many things that are less
expensive. Look at the 365 day brands for good values. Also consider
that they offer many products that do not contain any preservatives or
artificial colorings that are not found at other conventional markets.

Michael T Decerbo

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Aug 23, 2004, 3:29:04 PM8/23/04
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In article <sel._QaWc.296364$a24.55054@attbi_s03>,

Robert La Ferla <robert-removeth...@replacethisdomainwithcomcast.net> wrote:
>In general, the Whole Foods produce is generally better because they
>offer a large selection of organic and locally grown produce.

On the other hand, Foodmaster is advertising New Jersey peaches this
week. Haven't gotten over to try one yet, but in my experience East
Coast peaches are generally sweeter and juicier than the ones that
make the long trip here from California. I haven't seen East Coast
peaches at B&C yet this year.


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Mary Malmros

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Aug 23, 2004, 8:29:11 PM8/23/04
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That may be because the peach crop didn't make it in parts of New
England. A cold snap killed everything, and in the orchards around me
(western Mass), there's not a single local peach to be had.

Apples look good, though.

Charles Demas

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Aug 23, 2004, 9:56:04 PM8/23/04
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In article <fPidnZXg9NJ...@bcn.net>,

Too bad!

Wilbraham peaches are/were the best!


Chuck Demas

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Paul Kinnucan

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Aug 23, 2004, 11:53:45 PM8/23/04
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Mary Malmros <mal...@nobcnspam.net> writes:

Volante Farms in Needham has lots of local peaches (grown by somebody
else, I forget who), though not as many as last year. The local
peaches that I got Volante Farms last year and this year were the
first local peaches that I've had that weren't mealy and flavorless.
I'm sure that their are other sources for local peaches that
are sweet, juicy, and firm-textured but I haven't discovered them
yet.

If you like to buy local and are in the Metrowest area, check out
Volante Farms. Also Owen Poultry Farms a half mile up the road for
chickens, capons, ducks, turkey, geese, and eggs. I have about 1500
ways, all about the same time, to get from my house in Milton to my
office in Natick and I've settled on a route that takes me by these
places so I can buy local for dinner though I sometimes make an
exception for a variant that takes me by the amazing Allandale Farm
in Brookline.

Paul


> Apples look good, though.

R Philip Dowds

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Aug 24, 2004, 5:04:39 AM8/24/04
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Most supermarkets, even the one-offs, send price checkers onto each
other's premises to compare pricing on high-volume commodities like
yogurt, bottled water, and so on. Even a high-priced store will (try
to) stay competitive on Poland Springs -- but make it up on stuff that's
harder to compare, like specialties or house brands.

Produce is interesting. How fresh it is depends on how rigorously the
produce manager removes aging product from the display. In other words,
a high quality standard requires throwing out produce that may be
sellable today, but will be old and tired in the shopper's refrigerator
two days later. High standards, and high proportion of waste to sales,
drives up the price of fresh produce. Canned peas, of course, can sit
around forever.

I know nothing about how rapidly nutrients flee from aging produce.

RPD / Cambridge
Facts can be your friends if you treat them right.

Robert La Ferla

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Aug 24, 2004, 9:16:56 PM8/24/04
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Michael T Decerbo wrote:
> I haven't seen East Coast peaches at B&C yet this year.

I saw locally grown peaches at the B&C in Bedford yesterday. It is
possible that some of the urban stores don't have them or sold out of them.

Robert La Ferla

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Aug 24, 2004, 9:30:08 PM8/24/04
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EskW...@spamblock.panix.com wrote:

> I don't know about Johnnie's, but I've noticed that some stuff is cheaper
> at B&C than at Shaw's.

I have a good example that I found recently. Donelans had Wesson canola
oil (48oz) for $3.49. Whole Foods has their private label 365 Brands
expeller pressed canola oil (32oz) for $2.29. That works out to $3.44
for 48oz and it's expeller pressed. I will have to check but it is
likely that the Wesson oil is solvent extracted. So they are offering a
better quality oil for a slightly lower price.

Pete from Boston

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Aug 25, 2004, 10:59:29 AM8/25/04
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Cheryl Isaak wrote:

>
> I think this all comes down to "smart shopping" - knowing what you are
> buying and where to buy it.
>

If I had a dime for every person who's said to me "you always say Market
Basket save you all this money, but I bought X there and it turned out
to be cheaper at Star!"

I can't do a decent day's grocery shopping without hitting three stores.
While I rely on MB for the bulk, the loss leaders at Star are often hard
to pass up (I'm disciplined enough, though, to pass on the ancillary
purchases they're intended to drum up).

I never understood this as a kid and would get upset with my father for
taking us all over creation to pick up groceries instead of just going
to the closest place. So yes, I suppose this means I've become my father.


Mary Malmros

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Aug 25, 2004, 12:05:18 PM8/25/04
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Pete from Boston wrote:

> Cheryl Isaak wrote:
>
>>
>> I think this all comes down to "smart shopping" - knowing what you are
>> buying and where to buy it.
>>
>
> If I had a dime for every person who's said to me "you always say Market
> Basket save you all this money, but I bought X there and it turned out
> to be cheaper at Star!"
>
> I can't do a decent day's grocery shopping without hitting three stores.

And you can't save money if you're chasing your tail all over town in
search of a "bargain". If it's a matter of several items that you need
(or really want) and that you have to go to several places to get 'em,
that's one thing, but if you're "bargain-hunting"...well, consider what
your time and gas cost you before you count them as "bargains".

Pete from Boston

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Aug 25, 2004, 1:02:55 PM8/25/04
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Mary Malmros wrote:

Like I said, I go to three places in more or less a straight line. I'm
aware of who sells what for less. A quick check of the circulars and I
just note which place I can do best on which things. To me this is an
enjoyable way to spend an hour on Saturday morning, which is further
evidence that I've become my father.

Cheryl Isaak

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Aug 25, 2004, 1:11:18 PM8/25/04
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On 8/25/04 11:00 AM, in article
412ca94e$0$558$b45e...@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu, "Pete from Boston"
<mass...@my-deja.com> wrote:

In which case, I've become my mother. I end up getting produce in various
places, depending what I need/want and past history with freshness issues.

Cheryl

Don Saklad

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Aug 25, 2004, 10:04:36 PM8/25/04
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Better nutrients, better flavor need to be taken into account.
Quality, other qualities of the food products need to be factored
in too when calculating, comparing pricing. The algorithm of unit
pricing is not enough.

For example, olive oils at low prices, moderate prices and expensive
prices are completely different in flavor ! Taking into account
flavor the Unio, denominacio' d'origen protegida Siurana Unio brand
first cold pressed extra virgin olive oil from Spain would be a better
bargain even being a little more expensive than the least expensive
olive oils but has the flavor of the very expensive olive oils without
Unio being as expensive as the very expensive.

And what is that beneficial compound in Spanish olive oils,
a beneficial compound not in other countries olive oils?...

The additional compound is a beneficial nutrient in the Spanish olive
oils not in other countries olive oils.

Bread & Circus Whole Foods Markets stocks on grocery department
shelves the Unio D.O. Siurana first cold pressed extra virgin olive
oil
http://www.tienda.com/food/pop/oo-23.html
http://www.google.com/search?q=unio+%22olive+oil%22

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