Twiglets
British Cornershop
And they are available for delivery WORLDWIDE from British Cornershop!
We have 125g bags of Twiglets in the following varieties:
Original, Curry flavour and Tangy flavour.
We also have Original Twiglets in 6 x 30g bag multipacks!
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Xiphias Gladius
> They're satisfyingly 89% fat free!
Does that mean that they're 11% fat?
- Ian
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The Old Bear
>From: Xiphias Gladius <i...@bermuda.io.com>
>Subject: Re: Twiglets
>Newsgroups: japan.food,ne.food,nyc.food
>Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 18:17:05 GMT
>
>British Cornershop <enqu...@britishcornershop.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> They're satisfyingly 89% fat free!
>
>Does that mean that they're 11% fat?
Which reminds me: what exactly is the other 56/100th of a per
cent in Ivory Soap???
56/100 percent = 0.0056 or 560,000,000 parts per billion -- which
is a helluva lot by most environmental standards which measure
contaminants at parts per billion levels (micrograms per liter).
Cheers,
The Old Bear
Gunther W. Anderson
I bet it does...
> Which reminds me: what exactly is the other 56/100th of a per
> cent in Ivory Soap???
>
> 56/100 percent = 0.0056 or 560,000,000 parts per billion -- which
> is a helluva lot by most environmental standards which measure
> contaminants at parts per billion levels (micrograms per liter).
I've been told, by someone who'se allergic to it, that it's mineral oil.
_I_ want to know what exactly "soap" is, that one can claim to be pure
"soap". I always thought of soap much the same way I thought of bread -
and the concept of 100% pure bread doesn't feel all that meaningful.
Gunther Anderson
ObNeFood: I'm sure some of us, in our younger days, occasionally ate
soap. I'm _sure_ some of us had our mouths washed out with it...
Charles Demas
Don't you mean 5,600,000 parts per billion (American not British)?
I'd suggest to avoid the misunderstanding one stick to ppm,
parts per million, in this case 5,600 ppm.
I don't really want to start another Imperial gallon thread about
Imperial billions etc., but I couldn't help being pedantic. :-)
Chuck Demas
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Charles Demas
Michael F. Maggard <mag...@mac.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 9 Nov 2001 17:54:06 -0000, "British Cornershop"
><enqu...@britishcornershop.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>They're satisfyingly 89% fat free! Extremely crunchy! Hazardously knobbly!
>>And they are available for delivery WORLDWIDE from British Cornershop!
>>
>>We have 125g bags of Twiglets in the following varieties:
>>
>> Original, Curry flavour and Tangy flavour.
>>
>>We also have Original Twiglets in 6 x 30g bag multipacks!
>
>also informed that their staff is an inbred lot of halfwits. They also
>apparently rip off all customers.
>
>Go ahead and sue me, you spamming assholes.
Are you having a bad day? :-)
The worst part is that they could probably sue you in a British court.
Uri Guttman
GWA> I've been told, by someone who'se allergic to it, that it's
GWA> mineral oil. _I_ want to know what exactly "soap" is, that one
GWA> can claim to be pure "soap". I always thought of soap much the
GWA> same way I thought of bread - and the concept of 100% pure bread
GWA> doesn't feel all that meaningful.
classic soap is made from fat cooked with lye. i did this in grade/high
school once. fat is made up of a glycerin molecule with three fatty
acids (long hydrocarbon chains with an acidic group at one end) attached
to it. the lye breaks the fat down into fatty acids and glycerin and the
sodium ions attach to the acid end of the fatty acids. so soap is
technically a salt. it now has one end that is hydrophilic (the salt
end) which is water soluble and the other fatty end is hydrophobic. soap
cleans by surrounding fatty dirt with the fatty ends and the other ends
will disolve in water and get washed away.
boy, was that old chemistry!
so ivory is claiming that they get rid of all the leftover glycerin and
whatnot and leave 99.44% pure soap behind. and it floats because of air
whipped into the soap bars, not because of purity. ever notice how fast
ivory bars disappear? they are less dense than most other bars.
and OBne, i think ivory was made in staten island (northeast counts!)
for years. dunno if it is still made there.
uri
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Jerry Natowitz
Gunther W. Anderson <gun...@guntheranderson.com> wrote:
>The Old Bear wrote:
>>
>> Xiphias Gladius <i...@bermuda.io.com> writes:
>>
>> >Does that mean that they're 11% fat?
>
>I bet it does...
>
>> Which reminds me: what exactly is the other 56/100th of a per
>> cent in Ivory Soap???
>>
>> 56/100 percent = 0.0056 or 560,000,000 parts per billion -- which
>> is a helluva lot by most environmental standards which measure
>> contaminants at parts per billion levels (micrograms per liter).
>
>I've been told, by someone who'se allergic to it, that it's mineral oil.
>_I_ want to know what exactly "soap" is, that one can claim to be pure
>"soap". I always thought of soap much the same way I thought of bread -
>and the concept of 100% pure bread doesn't feel all that meaningful.
See <http://www.ivory.com/history.html>
For what it's worth, a chemist at a competing company told me that Ivory
has the most perfumes of any bar soap to cover the smell of the cheap fats
used to make it (example, used oils from deep fat fryers).
But .56% fragrance goes a long way.
--
Jerry Natowitz - jfoonatowitz@rcnfoocom foo -> dot
Ed Foster
wrote:
> For what it's worth, a chemist at a competing company told me that Ivory
> has the most perfumes of any bar soap to cover the smell of the cheap fats
> used to make it (example, used oils from deep fat fryers).
Is this chemist willing to allow his name and the name of his company to
be posted on usenet. Hey, I'd be glad to tell you all sorts of bad
things about lots of people and companies as long as I can be completely
anonymous.
The Old Bear
The correct link is <http://www.ivory.com/history.htm> -- not .html
According to the FAQ on that site:
Ivory Soap is made of both vegetable oils and animal fats.
Two different kinds of vegetable oils are used in Ivory -
coconut oil and palm kernel oil. We add a preservative, less
than ½ of 1% of magnesium sulfate and sodium silicate, to
keep the bar as white as its name.
Ivory contains no heavy perfumes, creams or dyes. A light
fragrance is added to provide that Ivory clean smell.
So I guess if the preservative and whitener make up about 50/100 of
one percent, the fragrance would then be 6/100 of one percent.
Of course, this being <<ne.food>>, it's worth noting that tropical
oils are known to be high in saturated fat, so those of you who are
watching your cholesterol levels should minimize the amount of
Ivory Soap which you eat. ;)
Cheers,
The Old Bear
Jerry Natowitz
Of course not! That is why I prefaced it with "For what it's worth".
I trust this person - considering the dirt (pun intended) she tells me
about the cleanser and personal products industries applies to the company
she works for as much or even more so than it does to P&G.
She would consider it a major breach of confidence if I revealed who she
works for and just how they substantiate claims such as "whiter", "brighter",
"softer", etc.
But just try and figure out why Ivory soap is so much cheaper (or used to
be, I stopped using it a long time ago) than any other name brand.
P&G uses a system of "Brand Managers" who live and die as their products
succeed or fail in the marketplace. No Brand Manager is going to allow
his or her product to be used as a continuous loss leader for the entire
company, when their salary, bonus, and future employment is dependent
on competing with all other brands - within and outside of P&G.
Dick Margulis
Jerry Natowitz wrote:
> But just try and figure out why Ivory soap is so much cheaper (or used to
> be, I stopped using it a long time ago) than any other name brand.
This is not hard to figure out. First, they have a huge market share,
which always helps. But the main reason is that Ivory is soap. It is not
a "beauty bar" or any other non-soap bar. It does not have added
anti-bacterial (expensive) ingredients; it is not "one-quarter cleansing
cream (expensive); etc. The principle ingredient is rendered waste fat
from slaughtering and butchering (in addition to the tropical oils
mentioned earlier in the thread), which costs pennies a pound, rather
than detergents and expensive cosmetic ingredients.
Next time you're in the supermarket, look at the bar products and the
body washes, etc. See how few of them actually have the word soap on the
label, unqualified by anything but a brand name (in other words, don't
count deodorant or antibacterial soaps). You'll find that most or all of
these plain soaps are on the low-price end of the overall range.
Ed Foster
wrote:
> In article <erfoster-D2545D...@wbnws01.ne.mediaone.net>,
> Ed Foster <erfo...@nospam.mediaone.net> wrote:
> >In article <9smn7k$rf5$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>, a@b.c(Jerry Natowitz)
> >wrote:
> >
> >
> >> For what it's worth, a chemist at a competing company told me that Ivory
> >> has the most perfumes of any bar soap to cover the smell of the cheap fats
> >> used to make it (example, used oils from deep fat fryers).
> >
> >
> >Is this chemist willing to allow his name and the name of his company to
> >be posted on usenet. Hey, I'd be glad to tell you all sorts of bad
> >things about lots of people and companies as long as I can be completely
> >anonymous.
>
> Of course not! That is why I prefaced it with "For what it's worth".
Which is exactly zero.
> I trust this person
Fine, you may, I don't. As I say, given anonymity I'll give you the
"true dirt" on anyone you ask about.
> - considering the dirt (pun intended) she tells me
> about the cleanser and personal products industries applies to the company
> she works for as much or even more so than it does to P&G.
Great, how about sharing it with us.
> She would consider it a major breach of confidence if I revealed who she
> works for and just how they substantiate claims such as "whiter", "brighter",
> "softer", etc.
Interesting, is substantiating "whiter" and "brighter" so high tech that
it can't be shared?
> But just try and figure out why Ivory soap is so much cheaper (or used to
> be, I stopped using it a long time ago) than any other name brand.
Because plain soap really isn't very expensive?
> P&G uses a system of "Brand Managers" who live and die as their products
> succeed or fail in the marketplace. No Brand Manager is going to allow
> his or her product to be used as a continuous loss leader for the entire
> company, when their (sic) salary, bonus, and future employment is dependent
> on competing with all other brands - within and outside of P&G.
Plain soap really isn't very expensive, as I already said.
Gastronome
>oils are known to be high in saturated fat, so those of you who are
>watching your cholesterol levels should minimize the amount of
>Ivory Soap which you eat. ;)
Well, just to be technical, only animal products contain cholesterol. :)
Seth Goodman
<gastr...@aol.com> wrote:
He didn't say they contained cholesterol, he said they were high in
saturated fat, which is indeed present in tropical oil. Saturated fats
raise *our* blood cholesterol levels.
In fact, the American Heart Association says "Saturated fat is the main
dietary cause of high blood cholesterol". Source:
<http://216.185.112.5/presenter.jhtml?identifier=532>
The original sentence *was* correct. :-P
--
Seth Goodman
The Old Bear
>From: Seth Goodman <seth...@yahoo.com>
>Newsgroups: ne.food
>Subject: Re: Ivory Soap (was: Re: Twiglets)
And Gastronome's comment was also *correct* insofar as cholesterol is
found only in animal fats.
Think about that next time you see a bottle of vegetable oil with the
words "Cholestol Free!" emblazoned on the label. Consider, for example,
the following product description from a recent food trade show:
Asparagus Enterprises Inc. of Dewitt, Michigan will highlight
ESPARRAGO Asparagus Guacamole -- a fat free, cholesterol free
guacamole that is made out of Michigan grown asparagus.
While there is something to be said for a fat free guacamole -- avocados
are relatively high in fats -- being "cholesterol free" is pretty much
a given for any kind of guacamole.
I suppose that one could make guacamole from Ivory Soap and advertise it
as being "cholesterol free", but it's doubt that it would have sufficient
cachet to attract a particularly large gourmet following.
Cheers,
The Old Bear
Seth Goodman
> Think about that next time you see a bottle of vegetable oil with the
> words "Cholestol Free!" emblazoned on the label. Consider, for example,
> the following product description from a recent food trade show:
>
> Asparagus Enterprises Inc. of Dewitt, Michigan will highlight
> ESPARRAGO Asparagus Guacamole -- a fat free, cholesterol free
> guacamole that is made out of Michigan grown asparagus.
>
> While there is something to be said for a fat free guacamole -- avocados
> are relatively high in fats -- being "cholesterol free" is pretty much
> a given for any kind of guacamole.
But under FDA rules, to be labeled cholesterol-free, a product must be
"less than 2 milligrams (mg) [of cholesterol] and 2 g or less of
saturated fat per serving". Therefore, the "cholesterol-free"
designation is still informative, even on a non-animal product.
Indeed, the "cholesterol-free" designation makes it clear that ESPARRAGO
is *not* made from Ivory Soap. Conversely, Ivory Soap cannot be
advertised as "cholesterol-free", even though it contains no animal
products. (Although, I confess I'm unsure as to the proper serving size
of Ivory Soap, so maybe it can make it under the wire. ;-) )
--
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Ron Newman
after a brand of soap.
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Jim Winston
>
> I still want to know why an ice cream snack (Dove Bar) is named
> after a brand of soap.
>
...and why there are no doves in either. Crunchy Frog anyone?
-Jim
Ed Foster
Jim Winston
No, I was thinking of the Monty Python sketch. See
http://www.stone-dead.asn.au/tv-series/sketches/fc-06/crunchy-frog.html
-Jim
Rose Skubiszewski
>Ron Newman wrote:
>>
>> I still want to know why an ice cream snack (Dove Bar) is named
>> after a brand of soap.
Chicago) and hand-made Dove bars, freshly dipped in fudge and nuts!
And the hand-made chocolates! A hot-fudge sundae only $1.25 !!!
>....and why there are no doves in either. Crunchy Frog anyone?
Was it Signals or Wireless (or both) that are now offering
Monty Python Gumby chocolate brains and dead
parrots on a stick (chocolates) ?