Meeting of Notorious Canary Trainers - New Summer Location

[Glen Link]

This week the group will be discussing The Adventure of The Noble Bachelor.  Strand Magazine first published this adventure in April 1982. Some feel  this adventure is not a true adventure, since their is no killing or dismemberment included in the story. That might be why the Granada TV version of this story was criticized for straying far away from the original story. The episode, broadcast in 1992, included significant changes and inclusions of elements from other stories.

Due to the Fitchburg Public Library being closed on Sundays during the summer months, we will be meeting at the Memorial United Church of Christ in Fitchburg. The church is located at 5705 Lacy Road. It is on the opposite side of Fish Hatchery Road as compared to the library. If you are headed south from Madison on Fish Hatchery Road, simply turn right when you reach Lacy Road. Proceed a short distance and you will see the church on your left.

I hope to see you there on Sunday. All fathers have an excused absence if their family has them occupied in other ways. 😊

Hansom Cab

a.k.a Glen Link

[Glen Link]

This Sunday, July 16th, the group will be discussing A Case of Identity.  Strand Magazine first published this adventure in September 1981. This adventure is one of the lesser known Sherlock Holmes stories. One of the reasons for A Case of Identity not being as well known as other stories is that it has not been adapted to stage and screen to the same degree as other stories. Granada Television chose not to adapt the story for their series featuring Jeremy Brett. I am sure we will discuss other reasons this story may not be the most popular adventure.

Reminder: Due to the Fitchburg Public Library being closed on Sundays during the summer months, we will be meeting at the Memorial United Church of Christ in Fitchburg. The church is located at 5705 Lacy Road. It is on the opposite side of Fish Hatchery Road as compared to the library. If you are headed south from Madison on Fish Hatchery Road, simply turn right when you reach Lacy Road. Proceed a short distance and you will see the church on your left.

I hope to see you there on Sunday. As always, guests are welcome and encouraged to attend.

Hansom Cab

a.k.a Glen Link

[Max Magee]

Sorry to have missed the discussion of A Case of Identity, I was travelling and didn't make it back in time for the meeting. I'm trying to figure out which is the next story in the queue. In 2015, there's a post on the Yahoo! group saying that as of December 2015, a story cycle had just finished, and that the group was beginning another (six-year cycle), only this time, it was going to follow the Klinger order- but as far as the meetings I've attended, it doesn't appear that we are doing so...

As far as I recall, I attended discussions on CARD, SILV, NOBL, and missed IDEN. I'm having trouble seeing the pattern, as it relates to Klinger (see the Klinger list below). If it were in by order of publication date (in parens below), it would be incorrect as well, as the Strand published them IDEN, (BOSC, FIVE, TWIS, BLUE, SPEC, ENGR), NOBL, (BERY, COPP), SILV, CARD- the only two that seem to be in any close proximity to publication order are Silver Blaze and Cardboard Box, yet the order in which we read them is reversed even from that.

Klinger lists:
1888

VALL

NOBL (Apr 1892)

YELL*

GREE

SIGN

SILV (Dec 1892)

CARD (Jan 1893)

1889

SCAN

TWIS

IDEN (Sep 1891 or 1981 ;-) )

BLUE

FIVE

BOSC

STOC

NAVA

ENGR

CROO

HOUN*

I thought, perhaps I was mistaken and the group decided Klinger's order was too willy-nilly (I would agree with that assessment), and decided to switch to Baring-Gould at some point, but no, nothing was mentioned (since I began participating) about changing the order, and again these most recent four just don't match up:

NOBL : 8 october 1886

SECO : 12 october 1886

REIG : 14 april 1887

SCAN : 20 may 1887

TWIS : 18 june 1887

FIVE : 29 september 1887

IDEN : 18 october 1887

REDH : 29 october 1887

DYIN : 19 november 1887

BLUE : 27 december 1887

VALL : 7 january 1888

YELL : 7 april 1888

GREE : 12 september 1888

SIGN : 18 september 1888

HOUN : 25 september 1888

COPP : 5 april 1889

BOSC : 8 june 1889

STOC : 15 june 1889

NAVA : 30 july 1889

CARD : 31 august 1889

ENGR : 7 september 1889

CROO : 11 september 1889

WIST : 24 march 1890

SILV : 25 september 1890

I personally really like Brad Keefauver's, from Sherlock of Peoria- he goes deep into his reasoning, and although I don't always 100% agree with his guestimates, he also gives other possibilities, rather than going all-in on his chosen pronouncement (as many others tend to).

1887

October 6, Thursday -- "The Noble Bachelor" (M-D-Y)

1888

January 7, Saturday -- The Valley of Fear (M-D)

March 20, Tuesday -- "A Scandal in Bohemia" (M-D-Y)

April 16, Monday -- "A Case of Identity" (Wd)

June 20, Wednesday -- "The Greek Interpreter" (Wd-S)

September 4, Tuesday -- The Sign of the Four (M)

October 25, Thursday -- "Silver Blaze"

1889

June 1, Saturday -- "The Stock-broker’s Clerk" (M-Wd-S)

June 8, Saturday -- "The Boscombe Valley Mystery" (M-D-Wd)

June 21, Friday -- "The Man with the Twisted Lip" (M-D-Y-Wd)

June 30, Sunday -- "The Engineer’s Thumb" (Y-S)

August 30, Friday -- "The Cardboard Box" (M-Wd)

Anyway, I hope this doesn't come off as a rant (although it is structured as such), as much as it is a series of links to tools that I've found to track down the order and context of many of these stories based on the themes, elements, characters, and reasonableness (sometimes there is no reasonable way to order them without conflict). Sometimes, we know for a fact that a story has occurred in a certain order because it references a previous case, but generally, we can't conclude if it was supposed to be a year or 5 (or 10!) between them.

Does anyone have the official reading order for this year handy, in case I miss another meeting? I'm plum cornfused about where/how to discern our next reading adventure.

Thanks and Cheers,

Max Magee

[Max Magee]

Thanks Glen & Johanna-

I was wondering if there were another Klinger I was missing. I also wonder how Klinger's estimates are so very different from many others (which seem to be internally consistent with themselves)...

I didn't see a way to share a document like that via the google sites pages, unlike Yahoo! groups, which lets you upload files, but that could be a handy reference for people who are thinking of joining in on the fun but can't attend a certain month. 

My first thought was to look at the yearly banquet email and see if there were a schedule to follow, but I couldn't locate one. I found a direct link to the document you sent me (SH reading.pdf) on the Yahoo! group via Google search, but it's not publically accessible. Perhaps our posts will help future generations!

-Max

On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 6:42 AM, Glen Link <lin...@outlook.com> wrote:

Here is the list for you. The list is in order of when the adventure supposedly happened according to Klinger's estimates.

Hansom Cab

a.k.a. Glen

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[michaels...@gmail.com]

Max:  The order is taken from Leslie S. Klinger, “A Consideration of Chronological Data,” Baker Street Journal, Vol. 64, No. 3 (Autumn 2014), 34-45.   In the introduction, he notes that this does not represent Klinger's own position, but rather from a compendium of 15 different chronologies, which Klinger then selected the dates for which there was the most consensus.  He notes that in some cases the consensus is rock solid and in other cases it is merely an agreement among two or three of the chronologists.  Klinger concludes by noting that "the matter deserves further study. I look forward to further analysis of the data by more capable students."

Michael

On Friday, July 21, 2017 at 9:11:57 AM UTC-5, Max Magee wrote

[Glen Link]

This Sunday, August 20th, the group will be discussing The Boscombe Valley Mystery.  Strand Magazine first published this adventure in 1981. Unlike last month's story, this adventure is well known and has been adapted in assorted types of media. Holmes heads out of the friendly confines of London out to the Boscombe Valley. I hope that wasn't a spoiler for anyone. Since many of us do own a deerstalker, it is interesting that one of Sidney Paget's illustrations for this story shows Holmes wearing a deerstalker. None of the Sherlock Holmes stories ever mentioned him wearing a deerstalker. This might be a good starting point to have a discussion about fact or fiction about Sherlock Holmes. However facts about a fictional character could be a slippery slope.

[Glen Link]

This Sunday, September 17th, the group will be discussing The Adventure of The Stockbroker's Clerk.  Strand Magazine first published this adventure in March of 1893. The discussion will start at 3:00 pm and is scheduled to be completed by 4:30 pm.

Reminder: Our group is once again meeting at the Fitchburg Public Library. Except January, when we celebrate Sherlock's birthday, this should be

our meeting place until next summer.

As always, guests are welcome and encouraged to attend.

Hansom Cab

a.k.a Glen Link

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[Max Magee]

Just a heads-up to those who (like myself) enjoy reading and listening to various adaptations of ACD's works, the proper/original pronunciation of Clerk in The Stockbroker's Clerk, is the way we Yanks pronounce the proper name Clark. It's because our colonial ancestors emigrated before it changed in the 17th century(!).

I noticed a similar difference in the way we pronounce Irene as "EYE-reen" vs "EYE-reen-ee" in British English.

Origin of clerk

Middle English from Old French and Old English clerc, both from Ecclesiastical Late Latin clericus, a priest from Ecclesiastical Greek kl?rikos, a cleric from kl?ros, lot, inheritance (later, from use in LXX, Deuteronomy 18:2, of the Levites, hence the Christian clergy), origin, originally , a shard used in casting lots from Indo-European an unverified form klaro- from base an unverified form kel-, to strike from source Old Irish clar, a board, tablet, Classical Latin calamitas, calamity

to work or be employed as a clerk, esp. a salesclerk

Word History: The pronunciation of the word clerk in Middle English and early modern English was something like (klĕrk), with the (ĕ) vowel found in the standard American pronunciation of words like bed, cleft, deck, and men , but used before (r). This pronunciation of er before a consonant as (ĕr), inherited from Middle English, can still be heard in the traditional speech of some parts of Scotland and Ireland today. But the sound combination (ĕr) is no longer found in the standard American pronunciation of words like clerk. During the history of the dialects of Britain that are ancestral to American dialects, probably around the end of the 16th century, Middle English (ĕr) usually became (ûr), as in the American pronunciation of jerk, pert, and clerk itself. In the case of clerk, however, an alternative pronunciation (klärk)—or perhaps more like (klărk), with the vowel (ă) of cat —arose in the south of England, apparently in the 15th century. It was spelled both clark and clerk. Because the word clerk was pronounced with (är) rather than (ĕr) in the south of England, the vowels in the word did not become (ûr). Later, when people began to “drop their r 's” in the dialects of southern England during the 18th century, clerk came to be pronounced (kläk), with a long vowel (ä), as it is still pronounced in the Received Pronunciation of clerk in the United Kingdom. Meanwhile, the American colonies and early United States were being populated by immigrants speaking dialects in which the historical change of (klĕrk) to (klärk) had not occurred, and the standard modern American pronunciation of the word became (klûrk). The other pronunciation (klärk) is used in the United States only in the proper name Clark. Similar changes of (ĕ) to (ä) before (r), occurring at various points in the history of Middle and Early Modern English, have given rise to parson (beside person ), varsity (beside university ), and even varmint (beside vermin ).

From YourDictionary.com: http://www.yourdictionary.com/clerk

[Anne Shudy Palmer]

Hello Canary Trainers,

Two topics from me!

First, there's an article in the new issue of Transformative Works and Cultures (the journal of the Organization for Transformative Works) on the many ways to be a Sherlock Holmes fan:

http://journal.transformativeworks.org/index.php/twc/article/view/1150/880

I'm not familiar with some of the academic jargon/theories referenced, but I found the article interesting nonetheless, particularly as someone who participates in both this form of Holmes fandom (scion society) and the online-based Sherlock (BBC) fandom.

Second, there's a new Sherlockian in town! Gabriel Gene Palmer was born on Sunday, August 20 at 3:14 pm. He waited 10 days past his due date so he could be born the very moment you all were discussing The Boscombe Valley Mystery, the source of my canonical name Patience Moran.

Hope to see you all in not too much longer! (though maybe not this weekend yet)

:) Anne

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[Monica Schmidt]

It's an excellent article. Liza Potts is now running www.sherlockian.net after taking over from Chris Redmond, BSI. I had the chance to proof the article before it was published. Thanks for the link! 

Many congratulations on your new bundle of joy, Anne! 

-Monica Schmidt, ASH

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[Glen Link]

This Sunday, October 15th, the group will be discussing The Adventure of The Man with the Twisted Lip.  Strand Magazine first published this adventure in December of 1891. The story has been a popular one and many adaptations of the story exist, including references in Sherlock and Elementary. It was first produced as a film in 1921 with Ellie Norwood starring as Sherlock Holmes.

[Glen Link]

This week the group will be discussing "The Adventure of The Five Orange Pips".  Strand Magazine first published this adventure in November 1891. It is one of two stories where Sherlock's client dies after consulting with him. Although it was never part of the Granada series, parts of the story were used twice in BBC's "Sherlock" and once in "Elementary". The 1945 Basil Rathbone film "Sherlock Holmes and the House of Fear" was partly based on this adventure. 

Due to the Fitchburg Public Library being closed on Sundays during the summer months, we will be meeting at the Memorial United Church of Christ in Fitchburg. The church is located at 5705 Lacy Road. It is on the opposite side of Fish Hatchery Road as compared to the library. If you are headed south from Madison on Fish Hatchery Road, simply turn right when you reach Lacy Road. Proceed a short distance and you will see the church on your left.

I hope to see you there on Sunday. All fathers have an excused absence if their family has them occupied in other ways. 😊

Hansom Cab

a.k.a Glen Link

[Glen Link]

I'm sorry to be so late with this notice. I was on a mini-vacation and forgot it was that time of the month already.

This week the group will be discussing "The Hound of the Baskervilles" Chapters 1 through 8.  It is widely agreed by many that this is Sherlock's greatest adventure. I am included in that group. Although I am not sure, I believe Basil Rathbone's version was my first exposure to Sherlock Holmes.

This story was originally published by Strand Magazine in a serialized version from August 1901 to April 1902. Can you imagine having to wait a month for the next installment? Our group is serializing the adventure but for only 2 months, unlike Strand Magazine that took 9 months. This was the first story after Sherlock had apparently died in "The Final Problem". The huge response to Sherlock's return lead to Doyle writing more adventures.

Due to the Fitchburg Public Library being closed on Sundays during the summer months, we will again be meeting at the Memorial United Church of Christ in Fitchburg. The church is located at 5705 Lacy Road. It is on the opposite side of Fish Hatchery Road as compared to the library. If you are headed south from Madison on Fish Hatchery Road, simply turn right when you reach Lacy Road. Proceed a short distance and you will see the church on your left.

I hope to see you there on Sunday. 

[Geoffrey Langlois]

Re:  Beards,

A license fee at work.

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-30037914

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[Glen Link]

I believe I am setting a record for a late meeting notice. Maybe it is because I am still recovering from attending the Homes in the Heartland symposium last weekend. The symposium had some very good speakers. I'll try to give a brief summary of their presentations at our meeting on Sunday.

This week the group will be finishing our discussion of "The Hound of the Baskervilles". Due to the popularity of the tale, there was no lack of discussion last month. I am sure the discussion will continue to be spirited as we conclude our discussion.

[Glen Link]

This week the group will be discussing "The Adventure of Wisteria Lodge".  Strand Magazine first published this adventure in 1908. It is actually broken down into two parts. When originally published it was called "A Reminisce of Mr. Sherlock Holmes." The title was changed when it was published as a group of stories in "His Last Bow."

Max has requested that someone act as moderator for this week's discussion. I accept the challenge. It will give me a reason to absolutely have to attend our meeting. I'll explain at the meeting.