Have you seen any sightings around here?
Terry C. Hurtubise
On about the 8th of november (about 6pm), my friend and I saw a
wierd sight. We saw a glowing light hovering about 150ft over the Carp area
while traveling down Hwy 15 towards Almonte. After about 10 mins. it
disappeared, like someone turned off a light switch. Did anyone else see
this? My skeptical mind tells me that it was a powerful light flashing off
an aircraft, but i am not too sure.
I am just wondering if anyone else saw it.
Terry.
Brian A. Cowper
Richard K Bethell (cj...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
> I am sure you got your private mail telling you the "Star nations" want to
> recombine your DNA with Madonna, but consider this alternate possibility.
>
> The Ottawa airport is not far from Highway 16 and many of the flight plans
> take aircraft over the Carp vicinity. At 6 pm, it gets quite dark, and it
> is entirely possible that an aircraft might have ducked into cloud cover
> during its ascent.
Yup. Ducked into cloud cover at a perilous 150 feet to confuse the
inhabitants. And stayed motionless for only ten minutes. Excuse me, but
conventional wisdom tells me that that plane should be at least fifty
miles away in ten minutes.
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Terry C. Hurtubise
Richard K Bethell (cj...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
> A man thinks he sees an airplane in an area near an airport. I hate to
> point out the blatantly obvious, but don't you think precluding the possiblity
> of an airplane here is a little on the silly side?
>
> Plenty of things "look" 150 feet away at 6 in the evening. At 6 pm on
> November 8, long past the days of daylight savings time, there is not an
> awful lot of light. Depth perception depends on two things - stereoscopic
> vision and a light source (double check this in Adobe Photoshop or
> CorelDRAW if you doubt). At 6 pm, one of these factors, save for the light
> itself, is missing. And without other things illuminated (for a reference
> point), I, for one, am not prepared to rule out the obvious.
> --
I tend to agree with my original statement. I believe that it was an
aircraft hovering over a landing sight with a spotlight, or a
spotlight shining off of it. My friend I just found it wierd that it hovered
for about 10 mins, then disapeared, like someone turning off a light.
I was also just wondering if anyone else saw this as well.
Terry
Richard K Bethell
Brian A. Cowper (ca...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
> Richard K Bethell (cj...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
>> Terry C. Hurtubise (dd...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
>
>
> Yup. Ducked into cloud cover at a perilous 150 feet to confuse the
> inhabitants. And stayed motionless for only ten minutes. Excuse me, but
> conventional wisdom tells me that that plane should be at least fifty
> miles away in ten minutes.
A man thinks he sees an airplane in an area near an airport. I hate to
point out the blatantly obvious, but don't you think precluding the possiblity
of an airplane here is a little on the silly side?
Plenty of things "look" 150 feet away at 6 in the evening. At 6 pm on
November 8, long past the days of daylight savings time, there is not an
awful lot of light. Depth perception depends on two things - stereoscopic
vision and a light source (double check this in Adobe Photoshop or
CorelDRAW if you doubt). At 6 pm, one of these factors, save for the light
itself, is missing. And without other things illuminated (for a reference
point), I, for one, am not prepared to rule out the obvious.
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Richard K Bethell
Terry C. Hurtubise (dd...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
> On about the 8th of november (about 6pm), my friend and I saw a
> wierd sight. We saw a glowing light hovering about 150ft over the Carp area
> while traveling down Hwy 15 towards Almonte. After about 10 mins. it
> disappeared, like someone turned off a light switch. Did anyone else see
> this? My skeptical mind tells me that it was a powerful light flashing off
> an aircraft, but i am not too sure.
>
> I am just wondering if anyone else saw it.
I am sure you got your private mail telling you the "Star nations" want to
recombine your DNA with Madonna, but consider this alternate possibility.
The Ottawa airport is not far from Highway 16 and many of the flight plans
take aircraft over the Carp vicinity. At 6 pm, it gets quite dark, and it
is entirely possible that an aircraft might have ducked into cloud cover
during its ascent.
William Demmery
Terry C. Hurtubise (dd...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
> On about the 8th of november (about 6pm), my friend and I saw a
> wierd sight. We saw a glowing light hovering about 150ft over the Carp area
> while traveling down Hwy 15 towards Almonte. After about 10 mins. it
> disappeared, like someone turned off a light switch. Did anyone else see
> this? My skeptical mind tells me that it was a powerful light flashing off
> an aircraft, but i am not too sure.
light aimed right at you. A small change in course or location (yours or his)
could cause the light beam to swing away from you and disappear quite quickly.
Landing lights can be seen from quite a distance, and I've often seen planes
approaching from the west which appear stationary for 10 minutes and more.
I'm curious how you came up with the estimate of 150ft altitude. It's very
easy to misjudge altitude at night. Very easy. Also, I'd think that 10
minutes' travel on the highway ought to take you quite a distance from the
object -- probably well out of visual range.
Could you estimate the brightness of the object, perhaps in relation to
astronomical objects. If it was clear that night, Venus would have been
visible to the southwest and Jupiter just about due south. What colour
was the object?
Looking forward to your comments.
-WCD- Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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Ross Ulan
Terry:
Here's something interesting I saw this summer,...
Big Rideau - Wed July 16, 9pm
(Big Rideau is between Ottawa & Kingston, Ont Canada)
I just finished a nice dinner etc and went to relax on the
Hammock for a while. The sky was clear with a bright moon about
80% full and it was dusk.
I was looking at the moon to the east, about halfway up the sky.
Flying from South to north I noticed a brightly lit rectangular
object moving northward. It had no flashing lights on it and I
could see no 'wings' on it. I was looking at it for about 10s
before it disappeared from view behind some trees. My impression
was that it was that is was a passenger plane on the Toronto to
Ottawa or Kingston to Ottawa route. It was travelling the speed
that a typical jet plane would, no sound was heard though.
So I thought it might cross the path of the moon and make for a
neat sight. However it seemed to take too long to appear in view
again on the other side of the trees so I went down to the
waterfront where I have a totally unobstructed view of the sky
and I could see absolutely NOTHING! This was about 20-30s after
losing sight of it behind the trees.
If it was a plane that had lost sunlight shining on it then at
least on would still see an outline and perhaps a flashing
aviation light. It was too high to lose sunlight anyway.
I had taken a set of binocs but did not have them readily
accessibile at the time, though I did use them a few minutes
later to scan the sky and saw nothing save for the moon.
David Duchovny reported seeing an object back in 1987 in Ocean
City, Maryland that looked like a plane but was gone a second or
so later.
Cheers
Christian Strano
Terry C. Hurtubise (dd...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
> On about the 8th of november (about 6pm), my friend and I saw a
> wierd sight. We saw a glowing light hovering about 150ft over the Carp area
> while traveling down Hwy 15 towards Almonte. After about 10 mins. it
> disappeared, like someone turned off a light switch. Did anyone else see
> this? My skeptical mind tells me that it was a powerful light flashing off
> an aircraft, but i am not too sure.
>
> I am just wondering if anyone else saw it.
>
> Terry.
You may have seen planet Venus. According to my astronomical sim software,
on nov 8, at 6 pm, Venus was visible in the SSW, low in the sky and shone
with a magnitude of -4.4 (that's very bright for a celestial object). The
fact that it seemingly disappeared after 10 minutes could be attributable
to some cloud cover.
I have often been impressed be the 'spotlight' appearance that Venus can
take in a clear sky under favourable circumstances. Actually, Venus
reached a position in it's orbit called 'elongation' on Nov. 6. This
means that Venus was about as bright as it can be on the evening of your
sighting.
Regards
--
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Those who can't, teach it...
Those who can't teach it, manage it..."
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Brian A. Cowper
Richard K Bethell (cj...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
> Brian A. Cowper (ca...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
>> Richard K Bethell (cj...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
>>> Terry C. Hurtubise (dd...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
>>
>>
>> Yup. Ducked into cloud cover at a perilous 150 feet to confuse the
>> inhabitants. And stayed motionless for only ten minutes. Excuse me, but
>> conventional wisdom tells me that that plane should be at least fifty
>> miles away in ten minutes.
Name a location, any location within fifty miles of Ottawa that is _not_
near an airport?
> A man thinks he sees an airplane in an area near an airport. I hate to
> point out the blatantly obvious, but don't you think precluding the possiblity
> of an airplane here is a little on the silly side?
No, unless of course, you think his watch was faulty as well as his brain.
Ah. . . maybe he was abducted. . . that's why the plane hovered for ten
minutes. Got it!
> Plenty of things "look" 150 feet away at 6 in the evening. At 6 pm on
> November 8, long past the days of daylight savings time, there is not an
> awful lot of light. Depth perception depends on two things - stereoscopic
> vision and a light source (double check this in Adobe Photoshop or
> CorelDRAW if you doubt). At 6 pm, one of these factors, save for the light
> itself, is missing. And without other things illuminated (for a reference
> point), I, for one, am not prepared to rule out the obvious.
Neither am I. But 150 feet is awfully close, and ten minutes is a long time.
Brian
--
Terry C. Hurtubise
Christian Strano (bq...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
> Terry C. Hurtubise (dd...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
>> On about the 8th of november (about 6pm), my friend and I saw a
>> wierd sight. We saw a glowing light hovering about 150ft over the Carp area
>> while traveling down Hwy 15 towards Almonte. After about 10 mins. it
>> disappeared, like someone turned off a light switch. Did anyone else see
>> this? My skeptical mind tells me that it was a powerful light flashing off
>> an aircraft, but i am not too sure.
>>
>> I am just wondering if anyone else saw it.
>>
>> Terry.
>
> You may have seen planet Venus. According to my astronomical sim software,
> on nov 8, at 6 pm, Venus was visible in the SSW, low in the sky and shone
> with a magnitude of -4.4 (that's very bright for a celestial object). The
> fact that it seemingly disappeared after 10 minutes could be attributable
> to some cloud cover.
>
> I have often been impressed be the 'spotlight' appearance that Venus can
> take in a clear sky under favourable circumstances. Actually, Venus
> reached a position in it's orbit called 'elongation' on Nov. 6. This
> means that Venus was about as bright as it can be on the evening of your
> sighting.
>
Unfortunately, It was NE of where we were and it was a cloudy night.
I again have to say that i guess it was a helecopter with a spotlight, but
just wanted some verification from others.
Tristan Shanks
Brian A. Cowper (ca...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
> Richard K Bethell (cj...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
>> Brian A. Cowper (ca...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
>>> Richard K Bethell (cj...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
>>>> Terry C. Hurtubise (dd...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
>>>
>>>
>>> Yup. Ducked into cloud cover at a perilous 150 feet to confuse the
>>> inhabitants. And stayed motionless for only ten minutes. Excuse me, but
>>> conventional wisdom tells me that that plane should be at least fifty
>>> miles away in ten minutes.
>
> Name a location, any location within fifty miles of Ottawa that is _not_
> near an airport?
Barrhaven...
*snicker*
I'm sorry ;)
>> A man thinks he sees an airplane in an area near an airport. I hate to
>> point out the blatantly obvious, but don't you think precluding the possiblity
>> of an airplane here is a little on the silly side?
>
> No, unless of course, you think his watch was faulty as well as his brain.
> Ah. . . maybe he was abducted. . . that's why the plane hovered for ten
> minutes. Got it!
Doubtful. But if you believe in Ufo's, you should believe in abductions.
>> Plenty of things "look" 150 feet away at 6 in the evening. At 6 pm on
>> November 8, long past the days of daylight savings time, there is not an
>> awful lot of light. Depth perception depends on two things - stereoscopic
>> vision and a light source (double check this in Adobe Photoshop or
>> CorelDRAW if you doubt). At 6 pm, one of these factors, save for the light
>> itself, is missing. And without other things illuminated (for a reference
>> point), I, for one, am not prepared to rule out the obvious.
>
> Neither am I. But 150 feet is awfully close, and ten minutes is a long time.
He's right. There is no possible way you could judge altitude at this
time of night or at any time of day. Have you ever tried to guess how
high something is? It's a very dificult thing to do without surveying
equipment, like rangefinders. The other things that brings doubt onto
your ufo sighting, is that if it's a 150 feet away, about 50 meters, about
6 to 7 seconds for at a fast run, or about 10 - 12 for the typical people
I'm guessing read this sig. Ok even 12 - 15. Now if you had any inkling
of what this thing was, which you didn't, you then speculated it was a
ufo, well why the hell didn't you go investigate further? In ten minutes
you picked your ass while something was 50 meters away was hovering eerily
and was brightly lit. Sorry, but don't you have any sense of adventure?!
Investigate, don't speculate!
Rob... Lost in his trench coat waiting for the sun.
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Brian A. Cowper
Tristan Shanks (co...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
> Brian A. Cowper (ca...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
>> Richard K Bethell (cj...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
>>> Brian A. Cowper (ca...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
>>>> Richard K Bethell (cj...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
>>>>> Terry C. Hurtubise (dd...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
>>
>> Name a location, any location within fifty miles of Ottawa that is _not_
>> near an airport?
> Barrhaven...
> *snicker*
> I'm sorry ;)
And wrong. Braheaven is actually quite close to Uplands.
>> Ah. . . maybe he was abducted. . . that's why the plane hovered for ten
>> minutes. Got it!
> Doubtful. But if you believe in Ufo's, you should believe in abductions.
I suppose. Abduction certainly explains exaggerated time lapses, and now
you see it, now you don't sorts of problems.
>>
>> Neither am I. But 150 feet is awfully close, and ten minutes is a long time.
> ** Once on the mountain I knew (or trusted) that this would give way to **
> ** total absorption with the task at hand. But at times I wondered if **
> ** I had not come a long way only to find that what I really sought was **
> ** something I had left behind... **
This post-script sounds perilously close to Banks - Collins.
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