Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Testosterone or Mom?

0 views
Skip to first unread message

Al Howard

unread,
Dec 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/29/97
to

What I wonder about all us otherwise doting males if it weren't for
hormones is, what role have the all the mom's who've presumably had
something to do with making us this way to play in making the next
generation(s) better than the past? I hope it doesn't suppose more
of the same in the cause of grandmotherhood.

Candace Lain Faucher

unread,
Dec 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/30/97
to

Your statement or question eludes the reality that "young lives" including
males (boys) require male influences just as much -

More and more children are being raised without a consistant male influence.
There are some people who are even pre-determining that a male influence is
not necessary i.e. adopting children or having children when they have no
intention of marrying or allowing a male to be apart of that childs life.

We are messing up horribly - notice the word "we." Meaning male and female.


CLF


--
" Your reason and your passion are the rudder and the sails of your
seafaring soul. For reason, ruling alone, is a force confining;
and passion, unattended, is a flame that burns to its own destruction."


Lee Murray

unread,
Jan 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/1/98
to

Al Howard (dt...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
> What I wonder about all us otherwise doting males if it weren't for
> hormones is, what role have the all the mom's who've presumably had
> something to do with making us this way to play in making the next
> generation(s) better than the past? I hope it doesn't suppose more
> of the same in the cause of grandmotherhood.

One thing about everything these days, generalization is
impossible. However, I am aware of a large number, a
socially significant number, of moms across North America
who are raising boys to be much more balanced than was the case in the
upbringing of the boomboom generation.

I say "moms" because the majority of my acquaintance are
single parents. I am aware also of some fathers who are
making better role models too, but I think these are still
fairly rare>

i DON'T think the situation of children with no consistent
father is as bad as we might imagine. In the boomboom playdays,
our fathers were absent at work all the time and were usually
not very pleasant when they did come around.

You have to get on back to the agricultural era to find
any sort of constructive interaction with the father,
when the kids were not jailed from 8 to 3 and September
to June.

Lee


--
joy


Niels Henriksen

unread,
Jan 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/1/98
to

Lee Murray (bh...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
> Al Howard (dt...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
>> What I wonder about all us otherwise doting males if it weren't for
>> hormones is, what role have the all the mom's who've presumably had
>> something to do with making us this way to play in making the next
>> generation(s) better than the past? I hope it doesn't suppose more
>> of the same in the cause of grandmotherhood.
>
> One thing about everything these days, generalization is
> impossible. However, I am aware of a large number, a
> socially significant number, of moms across North America
> who are raising boys to be much more balanced than was the case in the
> upbringing of the boomboom generation.

I raise my son on 2 levels, one definately is agressive, take charge, do
what it takes to make sure your social group survives and the other is to
make sure that you treat all people with respect, compassion and all the
other traits that keep a society well balanced.


> I say "moms" because the majority of my acquaintance are
> single parents. I am aware also of some fathers who are
> making better role models too, but I think these are still
> fairly rare>

It appears that you may be hanging around a group of people that are
missing certain skills.
In all the people I am involved socially with, every father is a good
role-model.

>
> i DON'T think the situation of children with no consistent
> father is as bad as we might imagine. In the boomboom playdays,
> our fathers were absent at work all the time and were usually
> not very pleasant when they did come around.

The friends in the group I grew up with, were active with their children.
They did many things with their children and other's children.
Our society is made up of people who were taught that their children were
important and raise children to be good parents and others who have
questionable emotional ties to their children and relate accordingly.



> You have to get on back to the agricultural era to find
> any sort of constructive interaction with the father,
> when the kids were not jailed from 8 to 3 and September
> to June.

It only depends were and with who you grew up with.


Candace Lain Faucher

unread,
Jan 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/2/98
to

Niels Henriksen (ap...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
> Lee Murray (bh...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
>> Al Howard (dt...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
>>> What I wonder about all us otherwise doting males if it weren't for
>>> hormones is, what role have the all the mom's who've presumably had
>>> something to do with making us this way to play in making the next
>>> generation(s) better than the past? I hope it doesn't suppose more
>>> of the same in the cause of grandmotherhood.
>>
>> One thing about everything these days, generalization is
>> impossible. However, I am aware of a large number, a
>> socially significant number, of moms across North America
>> who are raising boys to be much more balanced than was the case in the
>> upbringing of the boomboom generation.

Stats can be filtered to just about any "cause." I would hesitate to believe
that the majority of children have both parents actively involved.
Why do I state such? My other belief is that if we did have both parents
actively involved we would not be witnessing all of the social problems we
presently have.


> I raise my son on 2 levels, one definately is agressive, take charge, do
> what it takes to make sure your social group survives and the other is to
> make sure that you treat all people with respect, compassion and all the
> other traits that keep a society well balanced.

And I tip my humble hat off to you for participating/demonstrating the need
for a male role model.

CLF


>> I say "moms" because the majority of my acquaintance are
>> single parents. I am aware also of some fathers who are
>> making better role models too, but I think these are still
>> fairly rare>
>
> It appears that you may be hanging around a group of people that are
> missing certain skills.
> In all the people I am involved socially with, every father is a good
> role-model.
>
>>
>> i DON'T think the situation of children with no consistent
>> father is as bad as we might imagine. In the boomboom playdays,
>> our fathers were absent at work all the time and were usually
>> not very pleasant when they did come around.
>
> The friends in the group I grew up with, were active with their children.
> They did many things with their children and other's children.
> Our society is made up of people who were taught that their children were
> important and raise children to be good parents and others who have
> questionable emotional ties to their children and relate accordingly.
>
>> You have to get on back to the agricultural era to find
>> any sort of constructive interaction with the father,
>> when the kids were not jailed from 8 to 3 and September
>> to June.
>
> It only depends were and with who you grew up with.


--
"Your standard of giving is more important than you standard of living."


0 new messages