Zero Seeders

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Kayla Munl

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Aug 3, 2024, 5:02:05 PM8/3/24
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I've heard a claim that a torrent with zero seeders can actually be downloaded in a finite amount of time, because not all people subscribe to the same torrent file, but you can still find them using other techniques such as DHT. Is this true in practice?

DHT and Peer Exchange are not tracker related, but program related, so yes they can find people who are downloading the same file but are not connected to the tracker you are using.Those people that are found might be either seeders or leechers.

When there are zero seeds for a given torrent (and not enough peers to have a distributed copy), then eventually all the peers will get stuck with an incomplete file, if no one in the swarm has the missing pieces.

When this happens, someone with a complete file (a seed) must connect to the swarm so that those missing pieces can be transferred. This is called reseeding. Usually a request for a reseed comes with an implicit promise that the requester will leave his or her client open for some time period after finishing (to add longevity to the torrent) in return for the kind soul reseeding the file.

When I ATTEMPT to download a torrent via BitComet, the torrent itself from the "mother" site may have a large amount of seeders displayed; however, when it hits BitComet, the seeder amount suddenly drops to 0 (zero) and doesn't download at all (???). Prior to the last several day when this started to happen, BitComet grabbed the torrent and started downloading it IMMEDIATELY; now, for whatever reason, the torrent just "sits there" doing nothing. HAS ANYONE ELSE BEEN EXPERIENCING THIS PROBLEM? Or, is this just an isolated evenit that happening to me only? I have a very fast PC; virus/malware-free; never any issues doing this before, as mentioned . . . only within the last few days. Can anyone offer any suggestions here?

The correct question this topic should be asking is why torrents with zero seeds appear on a website to have many and the answer is that most torrent sites dont display tracker data. There are some rare exceptions, but because of legal issues most trackers don't operate public websites, the sites you visit are just index sites and some of them have scripts that test the torrents to get a rough idea of how many peers are present but in most cases they do this once every couple weeks. There are also fake torrent sites such as this case which fudge the data and post any torrents their bots can find. This specific one was caught making user accounts in the name of popular uploaders to have the appearance that the uploader had an account and thereby endorses that site. There are also cases where the fake site was made by anti p2p groups in order to distribute poisoned torrents to harass bittorrent users or to gather IP addresses to harass ISPs and ultimately make legal threats to the users themselves.

Also, so to be sure I'm 100% clear on this, the list of peers and seeds in your client is the only accurate list, never trust the numbers listed on any torrent site, even a reputable because it will be very old data.

I'm having a problem of their being 1783 seeders and bit-comet only reads around 13-15 and limits my download speed to around 300 kb/s instead of the usual 2500 kb/s which I have being trying to fix but just don't know what to do anymore and it Usually does it on files above 10GB

Please don't jump in the middle of someone else's thread with unrelated issues (it's actually quite rude)... Start your own thread and be sure to provide the READ THIS information, in the proper forum.

I noticed that for some reason Sonarr was not picking up new releases until much later than they were posted on the tracker I used (30+ minutes). I narrowed it down to an issue where under heavy load, the tracker tends to not update the seeder/leecher count for quite a while.

So, for example a brand new TV show may be added, with 100+ seeders downloading, but they list it as 0 seeders/leechers. Sonarr seems to have a built in restriction to not download w/ 0 seeders (makes sense normally means a dead torrent).

I successfuly managed to get connected to tracker. After connection establishes, I request for scraping. Tracker returns a response with right byte order but (Seeder, Leecher, Completed) infos of torrent is always zero which seems silly.

While i'm seeding i can only see the peers. the active seeders is always 0. I know that there are many active seeders for that torrent but its not showing up. also, the availability column doesn't count from other seeders.

Yeah its a waste, i know that. But just an indication would be nice. so that i don't have to waste time seeding torrents that has a good seed/peer ratio, instead i can do those with low/zero seeders. (coz my upload speed is very less).

Tracker stats indicate total peers and not all of them are active on a particular time. Moreover, I even don't need to see tracker stats for this. It is displayed within brackets under 'seeds' column.

So basically I'm trying to torrent this file, and I'm kind of new to this so bear with me, and the last bit won't download. I'm running off of Ubuntu Desktop 10.10 and I haven't messed with any of the Transmission settings. The file that I'm downloading is at 99.62% and has been for the past hour. It says that I am connected to three peers, however I am not downloading from them. Someone, anyone, save me from my ignorance.

by peers, i'm assuing you mean seeders. 3 is not enough to complete a download if there are lots of leechers trying to download the same file. i have encountered this situation many times. you just have to be patient.

@ Marcus's Answer: I don't know what a seeder is, but it says I am downloading from 0 of 3 connected peers. Where as your answer seems logical and probable, It gives me the least amount of potential action so I'm going to try and expand on mycae's answer. Thank you very much for trying to help me.

@Mycae's Answer: I did indeed hit the test port button and the port was closed. The link you gave me had a list of links on what to do on what computer, and my computer model was not listed. I'm using a samsung N135, in case that helps you any. I ended up on a site called "Team Viewer" that offered free downloadable port mappers. I'm going to try this and see what happens. Thank you for your input.

leechers = people downloading
seeders = people connected who are logged on and have complete files for sharing
peers = anyone else who are logged on but may not have complete files and are sharing the parts of the files that they have with everyone else

Ah. Thank you very much. I checked out the properties, and it showed that no one else had the complete file either. Although, I also checked out the preferences and the port was indeed closed. So this has been trying to finish downloading for the past twenty-four hours, and that's a bit ridiculous. Any suggestions other than sitting and being patient? I know patience is a virtue, but I'm thinking about downloading the individual files by themselves instead of waiting for it to finish.

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