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[Logan]

Hi Heath,

Since you put dashes inbetween "am _really_ not" I understand that you are very serious about not wanting to use a PC.

But I'm really curious about what it is that you feel you'd be getting from the boards that you wouldn't get from a PC.

Thanks,

Logan


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Logan <lo...@loganemail.com> Jul 03 12:50PM -0400  

I haven't tried either of these boards, but you can get a JPAC from
Ultimarc for about $60 and then connect a PC with MAME and you have
unlimited games that can be updated at any time. (If you're using an
arcade monitor you'll need to get a video card to convert otherwise, you
can use a regular card.)
 
That's what I did and I couldn't be happier. This allows you maximize
flexibility in configuring the interface that you want, getting the
games that you want and leaving ones your might not want either. Plus a
lot of games had multiple versions and this lets you choose the version
you want with tons of configuration options.
 
Take a look at the process here: http://www.mamearcadeproject.com/
 
 
 
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Heath Roberts <htro...@gmail.com> Jul 03 02:11PM -0400  

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Logan <lo...@loganemail.com> wrote:
 
I haven't tried either of these boards, but you can get a JPAC from
> that you want and leaving ones your might not want either. Plus a lot of
> games had multiple versions and this lets you choose the version you want
> with tons of configuration options.
 
Thanks, I'm familiar with mame. I respect that others find it useful, but
am _really_ not interested in a PC-based solution.
 
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[Donnie Barnes]

Logan, MAME is nice, but just isn't an "integrated" solution no matter what you do.  Yes, you can get it pretty close, but it's just never going to be as bullet-proof as the dedicated game boards like he's asking about.  Period, end of story.  Sure, the MAME solution has the pro that it's updatable and more flexible (jukebox app, etc), but at the end of the day it's also something you generally have to tinker with occasionally to keep it working. 

At least that's *my* take on it.

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[Jim Mosier]

Pretty big fan of both; MAME and Jamma

My last MAME cabinet been running with no maintenance for almost 3 years now.  If you are careful and particular, a well build MAME machine will be very reliable and easy to maintain as needed.

Having said that, the MAME cabinets give you almost the same experience as the Arcade; ALMOST.  If I had room, I would have 5 full size cabinets (Ms. Pacman, Berzerk, Robotron, Tempest, Centipede) and a MAME cocktail table.

Another thing to consider is, do you enjoy "the build."  Personally, I do, and might get more satisfaction out of building it than playing it.  I have build 3 to date; sold 1, gave 1 away and kept the 3rd one so far; each one got better and more detailed than the previous.

Here is my 3/4 Galaga MAME build page...

http://www.n2truth.com/?page_id=363

Keep telling my self I will build another 3/4 Berzerk cabinet, but have got to it yet..

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[Logan]

Hi Donnie,

I appreciate the response.  I was wondering what Heath was thinking.

I put a PC in a cabinet in 2008 and for a couple of months I did pull the cabinet out a few times to add additional games to it that I'd forgotten to include, but it's been almost 4 years since I've done anything other than turn it on and play. 

Since it's not connected to the internet and all of the games I wanted were 1980's - 90's, there hasn't been a reason to update anything.    MAME changes so often, but I think it's mostly to accommodate new games and operating systems.

The reason I chose MAME over boards was because there were some games I just didn't see on the boards which I definitely wanted.

But I suppose if you're worried that you would tinker with it, then a board would certainly prevent that.

When I look at people's projects I definitely don't feel good when I see a PC hanging out of a cabinet or someone having to use a keyboard to configure things all the time.

Logan

[Logan]

That's a nice cabinet Jim!  I have the 4/8 magnetic switchable joysticks too, and you're right they're not quite the same as joysticks built for one or the other. 

(I really liked that Food Lion rock sign picture too, makes you wonder!)

What I'd probably do for "maintenance" if I thought I'd want to do a machine to play the newest games, would be to put a wireless network card in it, then I could remote to it.  But like you said, once you're done with it there really isn't any reason to change it much.

If I were to make another, I'd do a horizontal which would play 80's - 90's games.  But honestly with virtually unlimited vertical games, I'm not in a rush.

Tempest and Centipede are good dedicated cabs to have because of the controls. 

[Logan]

Hi Matt,

That's been my experience with most cards I've seen.  Even those that are made specifically to run in an arcade don't behave like the originals.  And even if a few are good, it's always the ones that aren't which turn out to be the ones you think about the most.  Plus it's unusual to get all of the games you wanted on one card.

I wonder how Heath did with his card?

Logan
 

On 7/21/2012 7:03 PM, Matt Horn wrote:

Hi Logan,

 

I finally got around to trying out that horizontal board.  To be honest I’m less than impressed.  You can tell it’s made for a family home system rather than a true dedicated arcade reproduction build.  Robotron for example, uses one joystick and requires that you press and hold one button for move and another for fire.  It wasn’t designed to act like the original system at all by using two joysticks.  I’m sure I’ll have fun with the other games on there, but it really wasn’t what I expected.  :\

 

Hope that helps with your decision making.  Let me know if you have any specific questions about it.

 

Matt

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