Fwd: Gathering 2009 Call for Speaker and Beacon Nominations!

[serron wilkie]

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From: Krista McNicol <krista...@hotmail.com>

Date: June 6, 2009 12:09:28 PM PDT

To: numin...@mac.com

Subject: RE: Gathering 2009 Call for Speaker and Beacon Nominations!

Hi Serron,
Can you please take me off the emailing list for "Gathering 2009 Call...". 

Thank you.

Krista McNicol

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Subject: Re: Gathering 2009 Call for Speaker and Beacon Nominations!
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 19:49:57 -0700

Aimee would make an excellent addition to this panel and add a female component to balance things out.

Serron NCNM

On Jun 4, 2009, at 5:57 PM, Cecily Schuler wrote:

I like this idea!  It's like Elders-in-training!  Guidance is always nice, as is support.  I add Dr Aimee Huyck to that list!

 

Cecily, Bastyr

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 5:56 PM, George Gonzales <george....@student.ncnm.edu> wrote:

Thanks everyone, we are compiling a great list!

Just wanted to bounce an idea that we got at one of our meetings off of you all.  The idea was to invite some younger docs who have not met the 15 year criteria to both participate in breakout sessions (as co-facilitators with a speaker or older doc), and also to be a part of a panel discussion.  Some names of possibilities include Joe Holcomb, Ken Weizer, Eric Blake and Les Moore.  Would this be in line with the idea of the gathering or should we stick to docs with more experience?

Luke, NCNM

-----Original Message-----
From: Heath McAllister [mailto:h.mcal...@scnm.edu]
Sent: Thu 6/4/2009 4:45 PM
To: serron wilkie; nat...@googlegroups.com
Cc: wil...@earthsourcenaturopathy.com; Holcomb Joe; Edwards Louise; Zeff Jared; K Peters; Gonzales 01 George L.; Aimee Ortiz; kates-chinoy sara; Epstein Deborah; Ilg Raynette; Leila Fosdick Turner; Schules Cecily; Robbins Ryan; Anderson Jessica; Chase Adrien; joshua...@bastyr.edu; Ervin Kelsi; Caitlin O'Connor; Rob McElroy; aabr...@gmail.com; sharon Woodard; Pilsbury Cima; Jacqui Villalobos; jackson cb; Nina Walsh; Schwartz Dini; Niki Young; Benita Perch; Erin Fitzgerald; Brooke McNeal; Melissa Gastellum; Edgar Cere; ill...@earthlink.net; Elana Gelman; Adrienne Stewart; Scott Brewster; Jamie Oskin; Michelle Marcoux; Krista McNicol; brent barlow; Baili Clarke; Michele Sayball
Subject: RE: Gathering 2009 Call for Speaker and Beacon Nominations!

Hey all,
so glad this process is underway and am really looking forward to this upcoming Gathering!
So here are my thoughts on speakers:

Last year we came close to inviting Nancy Welliver to the Gathering and so for this year she's at the top of my list.
I am in total agreement with Deb Frances (always) as MC as long as she also gets to speak!
And I would love to hear Louise Edwards speak. After getting to know her a little bit at this last AANP I feel a deep respect and appreciation for her view of naturopathic medicine and the work she's doing at NUHS. Plus she's a super cool person with a vibrant energy!
Other... Andre Saine would be great to have speak again. He's a tough guy to book, so that may be a problem, but I would love to have him back.
Cathy Rogers sounds fantastic
James D'Adamo- we tried to get him to speak at last year's Gathethering but he couldn't make it. I think it would be wonderful to consider him for the beacon award for his years of practice and revolutionary (albeit controversial) concept of using a person's blood type guide their diet.

As far as SCNM faculty that have been mentioned:
Dr. John Dye- very interesting guy. Teaches mind body and endocrinolgy at our school. Has some great stories and something like 30 years of practice. I think he'd be a great pick
Dr. Stephen Messer- Dr. Messer teaches homeopathy at SCNM and is one of our best teachers. Brilliant guy, great speaker and is very passionate about homeopathy. I believe he spoke at one of the past Gatherings. Also a fantastic pick.

Other notes:
Michael Traub- I've both taken a workshop with Dr. Traub and heard him speak at the last AANP conference. Great guy, very patient nice man, very methodical. I think he is a great person to learn from one-on-one and by observing how he interacts with patients. As a speaker, however, he's pretty dry. No disrespect to the man; he's a caring, methodical, hardworking guy, but not the most captivating speaker, just fyi.


Anyway, that's my 2 cents!
Take care,
heath

_________________________________________________
Heath McAllister
Board Member
Naturopathic Society



-----Original Message-----
From: serron wilkie [mailto:numin...@mac.com]
Sent: Thu 6/4/2009 1:57 PM
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Subject: Re: Gathering 2009 Call for Speaker and Beacon Nominations!

I thought of a couple more really great speakers.  That is they can 
speak well about philosophy and the profession and have been in 
practice for some time now.
Dr. Mitch Stargrove ND LAc.  He is local to PDX but we don't get to 
hear from him.  I heard him speak at the Foundations Retreat a couple 
years ago.  He does a lot of transformational work in his practice and 
I thought the paradigm he uses for this medicine is quite unique and 
interesting.  Don't know much more than that....but would love to hear 
him speak again.
Dr. Micheal Traub ND, DHANP, CCH was the first naturopathic physician 
in contemporary times to be appointed to a hospital staff - North 
Hawaii Community Hospital (NHCH). He served as chairman of the 
Integrated Healing Committee from the opening of the hospital in 1996 
until 2001.
 From 2001-2003, Dr. Traub served as President of the American 
Association of Naturopathic Physicians (AANP). He remains a member of 
the AANP's Scientific Affairs Committee. In 2006, he was honored by 
the AANP as "Physician of the Year."
Has held numerous leadership positions within the naturopathic 
profession. From what I understand he has done them all with a great 
sense of integrity and passion.  He also has been an international 
speaker.  I know he has a strong homeopathy practice and treats cancer 
and Aids patients.  From what I am told this guy is amazing with 
patients and mind/body medicine.  Plus why wouldn't we want to all 
make a connection with someone from Hawaii.
Iva Lloyd ND, RPP, RHN, BScH Also heard her speak at the foundations 
retreat.  She works a lot with energy medicine and has written a 
couple of great books on utilizing it in practice.  works a lot with 
constitutions.  explained in messages from the body (her first book).  
Great speaker!  From Canada so we don't get to hear much from her 
either.
Peace you all,
serron
On May 29, 2009, at 2:35 PM, serron wilkie wrote:

>
> This email contains the updated email list to use when throwing in
> your nominations folks!
> On May 29, 2009, at 8:34 AM, serron wilkie wrote:
>
>>
>> Hey Everyone,
>> Its really nice to hit reply all (use the last email I sent for the
>> most up to date emails) so that everyone can be part of the fun!
>> thanks,
>> serron
>> On May 29, 2009, at 7:46 AM, robert lee wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Here's few suggestions:
>>>
>>> James Sensenig N.D. (the last Gathering's master of ceremony. He
>>> graduated from the first NCNM-ND class in the late 70s. He practices
>>> in CT and is founder and former president of the AANP. Also the
>>> founding president of Bridgeport and the former Dean of Education of
>>> NCNM.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Kelly Hassberger
>>> <naturopath...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Dear Naturopathic Philosophers!
>>>>
>>>> This is a general call for nominations for speakers and a Beacon
>>>> recipient
>>>> for the Naturopathic Gathering 2009 to be held at NCNM, in Portland
>>>> OR,
>>>> November 6-8, 2009. The theme of this years Naturopathic Gathering
>>>> is:
>>>>
>>>> The Gathering 2009: A Link to Tradition; A Look to the Future:
>>>> (Re)discovering the Vis
>>>>
>>>> The first speaker meeting will be held by the Naturopathic 
>>>> Gathering
>>>> Committee, Friday June 5th. So if you could get your nominations in
>>>> by then
>>>> that would be most helpful. We would like speaker affiliations to
>>>> vary
>>>> between the different Naturopathic Schools.
>>>>
>>>> I will start the nomination process by nominating Deborah Frances,
>>>> ND,
>>>> current faculty at NCNM for speaker emcee and host faculty this
>>>> year.
>>>>
>>>> I look forward to receiving all your nominations!
>>>>
>>>> If you want to contact me directly please e-mail me at
>>>> adrien...@student.ncnm.edu or call (503) 747-9388.
>>>>
>>>> I hope all of you can make it to next year's Gathering!
>>>>
>>>> Adrien Chase
>>>> President NCNM Naturopathic Philosophy Club
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>>
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>>>
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[Luke Gonzales]

What did we decide about moving forward with speakers? I assume we
will give the SCNM folks a bit more time to chime in but didn't know
if you had decided anything at the end of the meeting last friday.

Luke

On Jun 7, 12:24 pm, serron wilkie <numinous...@mac.com> wrote:
> Begin forwarded message:
>

> > From: Krista McNicol <kristamcni...@hotmail.com>
> > Date: June 6, 2009 12:09:28 PM PDT
> > To: numinous...@mac.com
> > Subject: RE: Gathering 2009 Call for Speaker and Beacon Nominations!
>
> > Hi Serron,
> > Can you please take me off the emailing list for "Gathering 2009  
> > Call...".
>
> > Thank you.
>
> > Krista McNicol
>

> > CC: george.gonza...@student.ncnm.edu; h.mcallis...@scnm.edu; nat...@googlegroups.com
> > ; will...@earthsourcenaturopathy.com; joenaturop...@gmail.com; drlounama...@gobrainstorm.net
> > ; DrZ...@aol.com; kpassifl...@yahoo.com; george.l.gonzales...@alum.dartmouth.org
> > ; Aimee.Or...@bastyr.edu; sarakateschi...@yahoo.com; deborah.epst...@bastyr.edu
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> > ; kristamcni...@hotmail.com; brentjbar...@yahoo.ca; baili.cla...@gmail.com
> > ; Michele.Sayb...@bastyr.edu
> > From: numinous...@mac.com
> > To: sumthn.e...@gmail.com

> > Subject: Re: Gathering 2009 Call for Speaker and Beacon Nominations!
> > Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 19:49:57 -0700
>
> > Aimee would make an excellent addition to this panel and add a  
> > female component to balance things out.
> > Serron NCNM
> > On Jun 4, 2009, at 5:57 PM, Cecily Schuler wrote:
>
> > I like this idea!  It's like Elders-in-training!  Guidance is always  
> > nice, as is support.  I add Dr Aimee Huyck to that list!
>
> > Cecily, Bastyr
>

> > On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 5:56 PM, George Gonzales <george.gonza...@student.ncnm.edu

> > > wrote:
>
> > Thanks everyone, we are compiling a great list!
>
> > Just wanted to bounce an idea that we got at one of our meetings off  
> > of you all.  The idea was to invite some younger docs who have not  
> > met the 15 year criteria to both participate in breakout sessions  
> > (as co-facilitators with a speaker or older doc), and also to be a  
> > part of a panel discussion.  Some names of possibilities include Joe  
> > Holcomb, Ken Weizer, Eric Blake and Les Moore.  Would this be in  
> > line with the idea of the gathering or should we stick to docs with  
> > more experience?
>
> > Luke, NCNM
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Heath McAllister [mailto:h.mcallis...@scnm.edu]
> > Sent: Thu 6/4/2009 4:45 PM
> > To: serron wilkie; nat...@googlegroups.com
> > Cc: will...@earthsourcenaturopathy.com; Holcomb Joe; Edwards Louise;  
> > Zeff Jared; K Peters; Gonzales 01 George L.; Aimee Ortiz; kates-
> > chinoy sara; Epstein Deborah; Ilg Raynette; Leila Fosdick Turner;  
> > Schules Cecily; Robbins Ryan; Anderson Jessica; Chase Adrien; joshua.ll...@bastyr.edu
> > ; Ervin Kelsi; Caitlin O'Connor; Rob McElroy; aabrum...@gmail.com;  
> > sharon Woodard; Pilsbury Cima; Jacqui Villalobos; jackson cb; Nina  
> > Walsh; Schwartz Dini; Niki Young; Benita Perch; Erin Fitzgerald;  

> > Brooke McNeal; Melissa Gastellum; Edgar Cere; ille...@earthlink.net;  

> > Heath McAllister; Brooke McNeal; Melissa Gastellum; Edgar Cere; ille...@earthlink.net

> > >>>> adrien.ch...@student.ncnm.edu or call (503) 747-9388.

>
> > >>>> I hope all of you can make it to next year's Gathering!
>
> > >>>> Adrien Chase
> > >>>> President NCNM Naturopathic Philosophy Club
>
> > --
> > .....:::::>>>>>}}}}}))))) love from the inside out  
> > ((((({{{{{<<<<<:::::.....
>
> > cecily
>
> > The stones and the stars envy the movements of your legs and tongue,
> > and call to you to sing on their behalf.
>
> > ~ Hafiz ~
>
> >www.catalysticaldancingonfire.blogspot.com
>

[George Gonzales]

Hey Everyone,

Thanks for the great feedback.

From my tallies, including the meeting we had this morning with our Gathering committee, many of whom are not on this list unfortunately, the list of speakers, mcs and beacon award winners looks like this:

MC: Deb Frances
Speakers: 
Louise Edwards
Nancy Welliver
Stephen Messer
Tish Dick
Jim Sensenig
Kathy Rogers

Beacon:  James D'Adamo

Unfortunately Dr. DAdamo cannot make it again this year (perhaps we should book NOW for next year's gathering).  This leaves us with Dr. Farnsworth as our first choice.  Today I got a few more names, however, that might add to the intrigue. 

Robert Broadwell---comes highly recommended and a good friend of Jim Sensenig
Fred Loeffler, ND--glowing recommendation if we can get him.  He is a 94 yo or so man with rich stories and very deep knowledge of the medicine. 
Lloyd Jacob, ND, DC--Still a strong consideration.  Very knowledgable about "bloodless surgery" or visceral manipulation.  Also highly recommended.

In our meeting this morning we also were very excited to invite Andre Saine again this year, as a way to bring him back to his alma mater, and also to get NCNM students familiar with him.  We have room for one more speaker, in addition to the ones above and his name was our first choice.  On the other hand if we could get two or more of the Farnsworth/Broadwell/Loeffller/Jacob group to come it would be a gathering rich with people who may not be around much longer. 

I'll open up to any of your wise minds for comment.  Please vote on a Beacon candidate other than James D'Adamo if you would like and also comment on our love affair with Dr. Saine, who didn't receive as much support from the non-NCNM crowd. 

Luke

-----Original Message-----
From: Katrina Stage [mailto:k.s...@scnm.edu]
Sent: Fri 6/12/2009 10:14 AM
To: Kelsi Ervin; Heath McAllister; Saman Rezaie; George Gonzales; Joe Holcomb; serron wilkie; Kelly Hassberger; April Darley; Krystle Etri; Nicole Cain; Michelle Maddux; hhil...@bridgeport.edu
Cc: Cecily Schuler; nat...@googlegroups.com; wil...@earthsourcenaturopathy.com; Edwards Louise; Zeff Jared; K Peters; Gonzales 01 George L.; kates-chinoy sara; Deborah Epstein; Ilg Raynette; Leila Fosdick Turner; Ryan Robbins; Jessica Anderson; Chase Adrien; Joshua Lloyd; Caitlin O'Connor; Robert McElroy; aabr...@gmail.com; sharon Woodard; Pilsbury Cima; Jacqui Villalobos; jackson cb; Nina Walsh; Schwartz Dini; Niki Young; Benita Perch; Erin Fitzgerald; Brooke McNeal; Melissa Gastellum; Edgar Cere; ill...@earthlink.net; Elana Gelman; Adrienne Stewart; Scott Brewster; Jamie Oskin; Michelle Marcoux; Krista McNicol; brent barlow; Baili Clarke; Michele Sayball; Aimee Huyck
Subject: RE: Gathering 2009 Call for Speaker and Beacon Nominations!

Hi all,

I would love to hear Dr Tish speak again. So here is my list:

MC: Den Frances
Louise Edwards
Nancy Welliver
Stephen Messer
Tish Watrous/Dick
Iva Lloyd

Beacon: James D'Adamo

And I think it would be a great idea to send a save the date sort of thing. Dr D'Adamo was our first pick for beacon last year, and he would have loved to have been there, but was already booked some 6 months in advance.

I'm not sure anyone from the other schools made it to the list, so I included one person at UB who can hopefully forward it there (thanks in advance Hadas :)

best to all ~
Katie

-----Original Message-----
From: Kelsi Ervin [mailto:Kelsi...@bastyr.edu]
Sent: Fri 6/12/2009 9:24 AM
To: Heath McAllister; Saman Rezaie; George Gonzales; Joe Holcomb; serron wilkie; Kelly Hassberger; April Darley; Krystle Etri; Nicole Cain; Michelle Maddux; Katrina Stage
Cc: Cecily Schuler; nat...@googlegroups.com; wil...@earthsourcenaturopathy.com; Edwards Louise; Zeff Jared; K Peters; Gonzales 01 George L.; kates-chinoy sara; Deborah Epstein; Ilg Raynette; Leila Fosdick Turner; Ryan Robbins; Jessica Anderson; Chase Adrien; Joshua Lloyd; Caitlin O'Connor; Robert McElroy; aabr...@gmail.com; sharon Woodard; Pilsbury Cima; Jacqui Villalobos; jackson cb; Nina Walsh; Schwartz Dini; Niki Young; Benita Perch; Erin Fitzgerald; Brooke McNeal; Melissa Gastellum; Edgar Cere; ill...@earthlink.net; Elana Gelman; Adrienne Stewart; Scott Brewster; Jamie Oskin; Michelle Marcoux; Krista McNicol; brent barlow; Baili Clarke; Michele Sayball; Aimee Huyck
Subject: RE: Gathering 2009 Call for Speaker and Beacon Nominations!

Hello Everyone,
I just wanted to let you know that when was speaking with Dr. Tish (Dr. Dick-Kronenburg, formally, Dr. Watrous) the other day I mentioned this community who is excited about nature cure. I told her too, that she is someone who we are grateful to have had the opportunity to hear from at past Gatherings. She was encouraged to hear that there is still a strong community of us who are hungry for nature cure. She said that speaking at The Gathering is a huge highlight for her. She feels uplifted from the community and revitalized. She would love to speak again. I gave her the dates, and I'll go ahead and take this opportunity to put in another plug for her name on the short list. It'd be great to invite her to participate in some role, even if we choose a new clan of speakers this year.

Perhaps sending out a save-the-date sort of notice to the naturopathic community at large would be good?

Do we have folks from Boucher, Bridgeport, etc, etc on this list?

Big Love to you and you and you,
kelsi

-----Original Message-----
From: Heath McAllister [mailto:h.mcal...@scnm.edu]
Sent: Wed 6/10/2009 11:28 PM
To: Saman Rezaie; George Gonzales; Joe Holcomb; serron wilkie; Kelly Hassberger; April Darley; Krystle Etri; Nicole Cain; Michelle Maddux; Katrina Stage
Cc: Kelsi Ervin; Cecily Schuler; nat...@googlegroups.com; wil...@earthsourcenaturopathy.com; Edwards Louise; Zeff Jared; K Peters; Gonzales 01 George L.; kates-chinoy sara; Deborah Epstein; Ilg Raynette; Leila Fosdick Turner; Ryan Robbins; Jessica Anderson; Chase Adrien; Joshua Lloyd; Caitlin O'Connor; Robert McElroy; aabr...@gmail.com; sharon Woodard; Pilsbury Cima; Jacqui Villalobos; jackson cb; Nina Walsh; Schwartz Dini; Niki Young; Benita Perch; Erin Fitzgerald; Brooke McNeal; Melissa Gastellum; Edgar Cere; ill...@earthlink.net; Elana Gelman; Adrienne Stewart; Scott Brewster; Jamie Oskin; Michelle Marcoux; Krista McNicol; brent barlow; Baili Clarke; Michele Sayball; Aimee Huyck
Subject: RE: Gathering 2009 Call for Speaker and Beacon Nominations!

Hey all!
Here is my final list for this year's Gathering:

1. Deb Frances as MC AND speaker- one of my favorites
2. Louise Edwards- would love to hear her speak this time :)
3. Nancy Welliver- I've never heard her speak but she seems fantastic
4. Stephen Messer- echoing what Saman said, he's a brilliant doctor with loads of experience and a great speaker
5. Mitch Stargrove- would love to hear his take on healing paradigms
6. Iva Lloyd- she sounds really interesting and would love to hear her speak!
Beacon- James D'Adamo- we tried to get him last year and it would be great to honor his contributions to our profession

Here's some information on people you may not be familiar with:

Dr. Stephen Messer bio: http://www.scnm.edu/steven-messer-nd-dhanp.php

Dr. Rick Kirshner (a really excellent speaker too!) A 1981 N.C.N.M. N.D. graduate, he was in private practice from 1981-1987 while presenting change and communication training to healthcare and business audiences. From 1987-1992, he was one of only 15 presenters chosen by the Tom Peters Group to present the revolutionary 'In Search of Excellence' and 'Thriving On Chaos' programs. Dr. Kirschner speaks to the world's best known organizations, from Heineken to NASA to Starbucks Coffee Company. He's been interviewed on hundreds of radio and TV programs, including CNBC, FOX and CBC. His ideas on communication and conflict resolution are found in magazines and newspapers including USA Today, London Times, The Wall Street Journal and Executive Excellence

_________________________________________________
Heath McAllister
Board Member
Naturopathic Society



-----Original Message-----
From: Saman Rezaie
Sent: Wed 6/10/2009 10:11 PM
To: Heath McAllister; George Gonzales; Joe Holcomb; serron wilkie; Kelly Hassberger; April Darley; Krystle Etri; Nicole Cain; Michelle Maddux; Katrina Stage
Cc: Kelsi Ervin; Cecily Schuler; nat...@googlegroups.com; wil...@earthsourcenaturopathy.com; Edwards Louise; Zeff Jared; K Peters; Gonzales 01 George L.; kates-chinoy sara; Deborah Epstein; Ilg Raynette; Leila Fosdick Turner; Ryan Robbins; Anderson Jessica; Chase Adrien; Joshua Lloyd; Caitlin O'Connor; Robert McElroy; aabr...@gmail.com; sharon Woodard; Pilsbury Cima; Jacqui Villalobos; jackson cb; Nina Walsh; Schwartz Dini; Niki Young; Benita Perch; Erin Fitzgerald; Brooke McNeal; Melissa Gastellum; Edgar Cere; ill...@earthlink.net; Elana Gelman; Adrienne Stewart; Scott Brewster; Jamie Oskin; Michelle Marcoux; Krista McNicol; brent barlow; Baili Clarke; Michele Sayball; Aimee Ortiz
Subject: RE: Gathering 2009 Call for Speaker and Beacon Nominations!

hello everyone,
hoping this years gathering is a smash hit.
i am putting my list of speakers for suggestions below, in no particular order.
MC - deborah francis (love this woman, and her vibe would be great as master of ceremonies)
beacon - james d'adamo (couldn't get him last year, his work is cutting edge and would love to hear him speak)
1. james sensinig (as mc last year, didn't get to here him speak.  the mans is magic on the mic)
2. mona morstein (one of my favorite nd's at scnm, her style is different, but hits the truth on the head)
3. micheal cronin (founder of scnm and been in practice for quite some time)
4. bruce spadilek (2007 arizona physician of the the year by anma, does integrative with naturopathic philosophy)
5. stephen messer (3 decades of experience, not sure how much time we have left to hear him speak)
6. ricky kirshner (most aren't a fan, but my personal fav, what can i say)
everyone at ncnm, you got last years gathering support.  its your turn to put on an amazing show, have fun with it.
thank you and have an amazing one,
saman

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From: Heath McAllister
Sent: Wed 6/10/09 12:19 PM
To: George Gonzales; Joe Holcomb; serron wilkie; Kelly Hassberger; April Darley; Krystle Etri; Nicole Cain; Michelle Maddux; Katrina Stage; Saman Rezaie
Cc: Kelsi Ervin; Cecily Schuler; nat...@googlegroups.com; wil...@earthsourcenaturopathy.com; Edwards Louise; Zeff Jared; K Peters; Gonzales 01 George L.; kates-chinoy sara; Deborah Epstein; Ilg Raynette; Leila Fosdick Turner; Ryan Robbins; Anderson Jessica; Chase Adrien; Joshua Lloyd; Caitlin O'Connor; Robert McElroy; aabr...@gmail.com; sharon Woodard; Pilsbury Cima; Jacqui Villalobos; jackson cb; Nina Walsh; Schwartz Dini; Niki Young; Benita Perch; Erin Fitzgerald; Brooke McNeal; Melissa Gastellum; Edgar Cere; ill...@earthlink.net; Elana Gelman; Adrienne Stewart; Scott Brewster; Jamie Oskin; Michelle Marcoux; Krista McNicol; brent barlow; Baili Clarke; Michele Sayball; Aimee Ortiz
Subject: RE: Gathering 2009 Call for Speaker and Beacon Nominations!



Hey all,

I think this slipped through the cracks again, but i wanted to update this email list with last year's Gathering crew. Please begin using this email list for further mass emails. I sent a 'last call' for speaker suggestions so hopefully some other SCNM folk will chime in soon.
Thanks!

heath

_________________________________________________
Heath McAllister
Board Member
Naturopathic Society



-----Original Message-----
From: George Gonzales [mailto:george....@student.ncnm.edu]
Sent: Wed 6/10/2009 9:17 AM
To: Joe Holcomb; serron wilkie
Cc: Kelsi Ervin; Cecily Schuler; Heath McAllister; nat...@googlegroups.com; wil...@earthsourcenaturopathy.com; Edwards Louise; Zeff Jared; K Peters; Gonzales 01 George L.; kates-chinoy sara; Deborah Epstein; Ilg Raynette; Leila Fosdick Turner; Ryan Robbins; Anderson Jessica; Chase Adrien; Joshua Lloyd; Caitlin O'Connor; Robert McElroy; aabr...@gmail.com; sharon Woodard; Pilsbury Cima; Jacqui Villalobos; jackson cb; Nina Walsh; Schwartz Dini; Niki Young; Benita Perch; Erin Fitzgerald; Brooke McNeal; Melissa Gastellum; Edgar Cere; ill...@earthlink.net; Elana Gelman; Adrienne Stewart; Scott Brewster; Jamie Oskin; Michelle Marcoux; Krista McNicol; brent barlow; Baili Clarke; Michele Sayball; Aimee Ortiz
Subject: RE: Gathering 2009 Call for Speaker and Beacon Nominations!

Thanks for the feedback Joe.  As one of the founders of this event your opinion and insight are so important.  We will focus on developing this relationship with elders.

If anyone wants to "vote" for their top 6 choices for speakers and their beacon award, now is the time!  Some of you have already done so and we've taken those into account.

Luke

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Holcomb [mailto:joenat...@gmail.com]
Sent: Mon 6/8/2009 2:40 PM
To: serron wilkie
Cc: Kelsi Ervin; Cecily Schuler; George Gonzales; Heath McAllister; nat...@googlegroups.com; wil...@earthsourcenaturopathy.com; Edwards Louise; Zeff Jared; K Peters; Gonzales 01 George L.; kates-chinoy sara; Deborah Epstein; Ilg Raynette; Leila Fosdick Turner; Ryan Robbins; Anderson Jessica; Chase Adrien; Joshua Lloyd; Caitlin O'Connor; Robert McElroy; aabr...@gmail.com; sharon Woodard; Pilsbury Cima; Jacqui Villalobos; jackson cb; Nina Walsh; Schwartz Dini; Niki Young; Benita Perch; Erin Fitzgerald; Brooke McNeal; Melissa Gastellum; Edgar Cere; ill...@earthlink.net; Elana Gelman; Adrienne Stewart; Scott Brewster; Jamie Oskin; Michelle Marcoux; Krista McNicol; brent barlow; Baili Clarke; Michele Sayball; Aimee Ortiz
Subject: Re: Gathering 2009 Call for Speaker and Beacon Nominations!

Hello everyone,

There have been some amazing names suggested, some that i am not even
framiliar with and that excites me, because the information that these
"elders" have to share is so deep and will affect the way you practice
everyday for the rest of your life.

I have truly been blessed through my assoiations with some of these
elders and I feel that a part of there wisdom and "pearls" are used in
my office daily. There is so much to learn, especially now after 3
years of practice I feel I have so much to learn. As Kelsi said, the
purpose of the gathering for you as students and recent grads like me
is to gain these assoaitions/friendships/mentorships in which to build
on. These amazing Doc's want to know YOU and want to pass on their
wisdom to you. While I truly appreciate the gesture, I do not feel
that hereing from me or anyone else who hasn't practiced at least 15
years would truly be the kind of bridge you want to build, you need to
befriend and learn from these old time docs and learn the wisdom they
have to offer. I count it a great blessing that through the gathering
I was able to develop a friendship with Dr. Bill Mitchell before he
passed over. I will never forget the things that I learned from him
while in his office and what I learned from him in lectures. That is
what the gathering is all about!!!

I would encourage you all as the gathering committee to make up any
excuse you can to have yourselves or any other student to spend one on
one time with each doctor, that is why we had different students
assigned to pick them up at airports drive them to and from
conference, introduce them in the conference and even introduce them
to groups of student during breaks and meals and parties. These docs
really really want to know YOU and want to pass on what they have
learned.

You as the gathering committee control what that looks like. you are
doing a fantastic job thus far I can't wait to see what the end result
looks like. keep up the great work.

Joe

--
Joe Holcomb
435-590-8087

[George Gonzales]

Also if anyone has a list of previous Beacon Award winners, that would be helpful to us.  please forward!

[George Gonzales]

Dr. Anderson, Dates are November 6-8th, 2009.  They are definite.  To be held at NCNM.  Hope to see you there.

Thanks everyone for the input.  Thats interesting about Dr. Messer.  Whether true or not, the most important thing in my mind would be whether or not he is in the spirit of the gathering and wants to be there. 

Re: Dr. Saine.  His schedule sounds challenging, but I'm not in the least worried about whether he would have anything more to say.  Perhaps we'll give it a whirl and check in with him more about it. 

LUke

-----Original Message-----
From: Jessica Anderson [mailto:Jessica....@bastyr.edu]
Sent: Sun 6/14/2009 3:34 PM
To: William Franklin; Elana Gelman
Cc: Katrina Stage; George Gonzales; Kelsi Ervin; Heath McAllister; Saman Rezaie; Joe Holcomb; serron wilkie; Kelly Hassberger; April Darley; Krystle Etri; Nicole Cain; Michelle Maddux; hhil...@bridgeport.edu; Cecily Schuler; nat...@googlegroups.com; Edwards Louise; Zeff Jared; K Peters; Gonzales 01 George L.; kates-chinoy sara; Deborah Epstein; Ilg Raynette; Leila Fosdick Turner; Ryan Robbins; Chase Adrien; Joshua Lloyd; Caitlin O'Connor; Robert McElroy; aabr...@gmail.com; sharon Woodard; Pilsbury Cima; Jacqui Villalobos; jackson cb; Nina Walsh; Schwartz Dini; Niki Young; Benita Perch; Erin Fitzgerald; Brooke McNeal; Melissa Gastellum; Edgar Cere; ill...@earthlink.net; Adrienne Stewart; Scott Brewster; Jamie Oskin; Michelle Marcoux; Krista McNicol; brent barlow; Baili Clarke; Michele Sayball; Aimee Huyck
Subject: RE: Gathering 2009 Call for Speaker and Beacon Nominations!

Will someone remind me of proposed dates, please?
Thanks and looking forward!!

Jessica L. Anderson, ND
Naturopathic Doctor
Botanica Wellness
Denver, CO
720 279 8726
www.drjessicaanderson.com

-----Original Message-----
From: William Franklin [mailto:wjfran...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sun 6/14/2009 12:24 PM
To: Elana Gelman
Cc: Katrina Stage; George Gonzales; Kelsi Ervin; Heath McAllister; Saman Rezaie; Joe Holcomb; serron wilkie; Kelly Hassberger; April Darley; Krystle Etri; Nicole Cain; Michelle Maddux; hhil...@bridgeport.edu; Cecily Schuler; nat...@googlegroups.com; Edwards Louise; Zeff Jared; K Peters; Gonzales 01 George L.; kates-chinoy sara; Deborah Epstein; Ilg Raynette; Leila Fosdick Turner; Ryan Robbins; Jessica Anderson; Chase Adrien; Joshua Lloyd; Caitlin O'Connor; Robert McElroy; aabr...@gmail.com; sharon Woodard; Pilsbury Cima; Jacqui Villalobos; jackson cb; Nina Walsh; Schwartz Dini; Niki Young; Benita Perch; Erin Fitzgerald; Brooke McNeal; Melissa Gastellum; Edgar Cere; ill...@earthlink.net; Adrienne Stewart; Scott Brewster; Jamie Oskin; Michelle Marcoux; Krista McNicol; brent barlow; Baili Clarke; Michele Sayball; Aimee Huyck
Subject: Re: Gathering 2009 Call for Speaker and Beacon Nominations!

Hello All,

Heath's list of Beacon recipients is complete.  Dr. Broadwell was great at
the first 2 Gatherings and received the 1st Beacon.  We've been trying to
get Farnsworth for several years so that would be awesome if you can get
him.  We've also had our eye on Dr. Geldner, who is now the last licensed ND
in Florida.  He has held out as the only member of the state association
until 4 yrs ago!  Perhaps a guest of honor invite?

We've also wanted to hear from Prudence Broadwell, who is an amazing doc and
often gets overlooked in favor of her husband.  And of course, the ever
illusive D'Adamo... I think it would be a great idea to start on him for a
year or two from now.

Dr. Messer has recently spoken out against continuing to have nature cure in
our curriculum at SCNM.  As you make your decisions I think that is worth
consideration.  He also gave a great talk at the 2nd Gathering and would be
someone you'll enjoy listening to.  Either way, it's your decision.

my wish list...
MC--> Francis
Speakers--> Welliver, Edwards, Rogers, Saine, Morstein, Stargrove, Joiner
Bey, P. Broadwell
Beacon--> D'Adamo, Farnsworth, Geldner

I know we only give one Beacon and that's probably too many names for
speakers... what can I say?!  Wish lists don't have to be practical do they?

I'm very excited with all the names and the energy around this next
Gathering.  NCNM's students last year were on fire to get this going and it
shows!  I'm looking forward to seeing y'all soon.


William

On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Elana Gelman <e.Ge...@scnm.edu> wrote:

> Hey guys,
>  I was just in Montreal attending one of Dr. Saine's homeopathy conferences
> and I mentioned the idea of him being nominated once again for this years
> gathering. His quick remark to me was "what else would I say?".
> In addition, he is taking a sabbatical to finish his books - one on Lippe,
> probably the most accurate homeopathic prescriber in history, and on
> homeopathy and the epidemics. He is taking off from August-January of this
> year - so his presence at that Gathering may not be possible.
>
> Just thought I would share that info with everyone.
>
>
> Thanks for everyones hard work with this. The line up is fantastic!!
>
> And if anyone needs a contact person for Dr. Messer, I would be happy to
> help out and talk to him since I see him all the time.
>
> Elana

>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Katrina Stage
>  Sent: Sat 6/13/2009 2:57 PM
> To: George Gonzales; Kelsi Ervin; Heath McAllister; Saman Rezaie; Joe
> Holcomb; serron wilkie; Kelly Hassberger; April Darley; Krystle Etri; Nicole
> Cain; Michelle Maddux; hhil...@bridgeport.edu
> Cc: Cecily Schuler; nat...@googlegroups.com;
> wil...@earthsourcenaturopathy.com; Edwards Louise; Zeff Jared; K Peters;
> Gonzales 01 George L.; kates-chinoy sara; Deborah Epstein; Ilg Raynette;
> Leila Fosdick Turner; Ryan Robbins; Jessica Anderson; Chase Adrien; Joshua
> Lloyd; Caitlin O'Connor; Robert McElroy; aabr...@gmail.com; sharon
> Woodard; Pilsbury Cima; Jacqui Villalobos; jackson cb; Nina Walsh; Schwartz
> Dini; Niki Young; Benita Perch; Erin Fitzgerald; Brooke McNeal; Melissa
> Gastellum; Edgar Cere; ill...@earthlink.net; Elana Gelman; Adrienne
> Stewart; Scott Brewster; Jamie Oskin; Michelle Marcoux; Krista McNicol;
> brent barlow; Baili Clarke; Michele Sayball; Aimee Huyck
> Subject: RE: Gathering 2009 Call for Speaker and Beacon Nominations!
>
> Hi all,
>

> I would love to have Dr Saine at the Gathering again!
>
> I am interested in Robert Broadwell, and Loeffler sounds interesting, but
> have to admit that I don't know much about the other beacon nominees.
>
> Thanks for all your work so far, I am very much looking forward to an
> amazing Gathering this fall!
>
> Katie

>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: George Gonzales [mailto:george....@student.ncnm.edu]

> Sent: Fri 6/12/2009 3:22 PM

--
William Franklin
Kinetic Energy LLC
Performance Enhancement for Sport and Life
480.232.1760

My purpose is to awaken in each moment to the truth of who I am and to
consciously live that truth.

To be awake is to be alive. I have never yet met a man who was quite awake.
How could I have looked him in the face? ~Thoreau

[George Gonzales]

Hello Everyone,

We are moving along nicely here at NCNM, but there are a couple of things to bring to the group.

1. I added some names to this email group that includes some of the NCNM students who have been working hard and should be a part of this discussion group so please use this list moving forward.

2. Adrien and Heath have a proposal about a way to use some of the funds built up from past gatherings that would involve SCNM students in creating some scholarships to get students from all the different colleges in attendance.  I'll let one of them propose the idea in more detail, but I think it is a good one. 

3. Would William or Joe be interested in providing some history background for an article that would advertise next year's event in the ndnr?  The article needs to be done asap, so if one of you could give me the best history possible that I could use in an article, or would like to write the article themselves, let us know asap.  I'm sure you are both busy but we'd love to get as much background as possible.  the article will be 500 words in length.  It would be great to put a really nice history on the website though, so that is another use for your efforts.

4.  Is anyone enjoying the summer yet!

un abrazo electronico,

Luke

-----Original Message-----
From: Jessica Anderson [mailto:Jessica....@bastyr.edu]
Sent: Sun 6/14/2009 3:34 PM
To: William Franklin; Elana Gelman

Cc: Katrina Stage; George Gonzales; Kelsi Ervin; Heath McAllister; Saman Rezaie; Joe Holcomb; serron wilkie; Kelly Hassberger; April Darley; Krystle Etri; Nicole Cain; Michelle Maddux; hhil...@bridgeport.edu; Cecily Schuler; nat...@googlegroups.com; Edwards Louise; Zeff Jared; K Peters; Gonzales 01 George L.; kates-chinoy sara; Deborah Epstein; Ilg Raynette; Leila Fosdick Turner; Ryan Robbins; Chase Adrien; Joshua Lloyd; Caitlin O'Connor; Robert McElroy; aabr...@gmail.com; sharon Woodard; Pilsbury Cima; Jacqui Villalobos; jackson cb; Nina Walsh; Schwartz Dini; Niki Young; Benita Perch; Erin Fitzgerald; Brooke McNeal; Melissa Gastellum; Edgar Cere; ill...@earthlink.net; Adrienne Stewart; Scott Brewster; Jamie Oskin; Michelle Marcoux; Krista McNicol; brent barlow; Baili Clarke; Michele Sayball; Aimee Huyck
Subject: RE: Gathering 2009 Call for Speaker and Beacon Nominations!

Will someone remind me of proposed dates, please?
Thanks and looking forward!!

Jessica L. Anderson, ND
Naturopathic Doctor
Botanica Wellness
Denver, CO
720 279 8726
www.drjessicaanderson.com





-----Original Message-----
From: William Franklin [mailto:wjfran...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sun 6/14/2009 12:24 PM
To: Elana Gelman

Cc: Katrina Stage; George Gonzales; Kelsi Ervin; Heath McAllister; Saman Rezaie; Joe Holcomb; serron wilkie; Kelly Hassberger; April Darley; Krystle Etri; Nicole Cain; Michelle Maddux; hhil...@bridgeport.edu; Cecily Schuler; nat...@googlegroups.com; Edwards Louise; Zeff Jared; K Peters; Gonzales 01 George L.; kates-chinoy sara; Deborah Epstein; Ilg Raynette; Leila Fosdick Turner; Ryan Robbins; Jessica Anderson; Chase Adrien; Joshua Lloyd; Caitlin O'Connor; Robert McElroy; aabr...@gmail.com; sharon Woodard; Pilsbury Cima; Jacqui Villalobos; jackson cb; Nina Walsh; Schwartz Dini; Niki Young; Benita Perch; Erin Fitzgerald; Brooke McNeal; Melissa Gastellum; Edgar Cere; ill...@earthlink.net; Adrienne Stewart; Scott Brewster; Jamie Oskin; Michelle Marcoux; Krista McNicol; brent barlow; Baili Clarke; Michele Sayball; Aimee Huyck
Subject: Re: Gathering 2009 Call for Speaker and Beacon Nominations!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Katrina Stage

>  Sent: Sat 6/13/2009 2:57 PM

> To: George Gonzales; Kelsi Ervin; Heath McAllister; Saman Rezaie; Joe
> Holcomb; serron wilkie; Kelly Hassberger; April Darley; Krystle Etri; Nicole
> Cain; Michelle Maddux; hhil...@bridgeport.edu
> Cc: Cecily Schuler; nat...@googlegroups.com;
> wil...@earthsourcenaturopathy.com; Edwards Louise; Zeff Jared; K Peters;
> Gonzales 01 George L.; kates-chinoy sara; Deborah Epstein; Ilg Raynette;
> Leila Fosdick Turner; Ryan Robbins; Jessica Anderson; Chase Adrien; Joshua
> Lloyd; Caitlin O'Connor; Robert McElroy; aabr...@gmail.com; sharon
> Woodard; Pilsbury Cima; Jacqui Villalobos; jackson cb; Nina Walsh; Schwartz
> Dini; Niki Young; Benita Perch; Erin Fitzgerald; Brooke McNeal; Melissa
> Gastellum; Edgar Cere; ill...@earthlink.net; Elana Gelman; Adrienne
> Stewart; Scott Brewster; Jamie Oskin; Michelle Marcoux; Krista McNicol;
> brent barlow; Baili Clarke; Michele Sayball; Aimee Huyck
> Subject: RE: Gathering 2009 Call for Speaker and Beacon Nominations!
>
> Hi all,
>

> I would love to have Dr Saine at the Gathering again!
>
> I am interested in Robert Broadwell, and Loeffler sounds interesting, but
> have to admit that I don't know much about the other beacon nominees.
>
> Thanks for all your work so far, I am very much looking forward to an
> amazing Gathering this fall!
>
> Katie
>
>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: George Gonzales [mailto:george....@student.ncnm.edu]

> Sent: Fri 6/12/2009 3:22 PM

[Derek Andre]

Hi Kelly and everyone,

I totally agree with your sentiments regarding getting the word out to docs about The Gathering 2009 so they can "save the date."

How about we do both of your suggestions? I will work on updating the website homepage to feature information about the date, time and place of The Gathering while the rest of the site is being completed... and everyone on this list could help get the word out to doctors (and students) that they know.

Here's the details:

The Gathering 2009

Friday, November 6th - Sunday, November 8th

At National College of Natural Medicine (NCNM) in Portland, Oregon

Theme:  A Link to Tradition, A look to the Future: (Re)Discovering the Vis

Anticipated speakers include Dr. Deborah Frances, Dr. Leticia Dick, Dr. Jim Sensenig and Dr. Louise Edwards among many others. Continuing Education Credits will be available for practicing doctors. 

Thanks for the ideas.

Please spread the word to those you know!!

 Derek Andre (ND2, NCNM)

On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Kelly Hassberger <k.hass...@scnm.edu> wrote:

Hello All!

I hope everyone is doing wonderful and that the Gathering 2009 planning is going well. I had a conversation with Kim Palka, ND today who as many of you know was involved in planning the second annual Gathering that took place at SCNM. Needless to say I am adding her onto this email so that she can be in the loop on plans. I think we should maybe take a look at our email list and see if we are missing anyone else. I know that at the beginning of these conversations my entire group from last year's gathering was missing and I am assuming that most likely some other names have fallen off the list as well. Maybe we could all take a look and add anyone on that we know planned a Gathering with us and get the list up to date.

On another note (to the NCNM planning team), Kim and I were discussing that it would be a good idea to get an email out to both students and doctors giving them a heads up on the dates and location for the Gathering this year. Many students can make last minute plans, but many docs need to plan far in advance. Kim had mentioned that the website still said "coming soon", so any ND trying to find out details about the dates would not have access. I know the website is being worked on at the moment, so perhaps a message on there with the date and time would help or just a mass email to students and alumni.

Thanks again to the NCNM students who have volunteered their time for this year's gathering. I look forward to seeing you all in November!

Kelly

Kelly Hassberger
9th Quarter Student
TA Coordinator--NPlex Prep
Naturopathic Society Vice President
Southwest College of Naturopathic Medicine
k.hass...@scnm.edu
616-540-0723

-----Original Message-----
From: Heath McAllister

Sent: Thu 7/16/2009 9:52 AM
To: George Gonzales; Jessica Anderson; William Franklin; Elana Gelman; Derek Andre
Cc: Katrina Stage; Kelsi Ervin; Saman Rezaie; Joe Holcomb; serron wilkie; Kelly Hassberger; April Darley; Krystle Etri; Nicole Cain; Michelle Maddux; hhil...@bridgeport.edu; Cecily Schuler; nat...@googlegroups.com; Edwards Louise; Zeff Jared; K Peters; Gonzales 01 George L.; kates-chinoy sara; Deborah Epstein; Ilg Raynette; Leila Fosdick Turner; Ryan Robbins; Chase Adrien; Joshua Lloyd; Caitlin O'Connor; Robert McElroy; aabr...@gmail.com; sharon Woodard; Pilsbury Cima; Jacqui Villalobos; jackson cb; Nina Walsh; Schwartz Dini; Niki Young; Benita Perch; Erin Fitzgerald; Brooke McNeal; Melissa Gastellum; Edgar Cere; ill...@earthlink.net; Adrienne Stewart; Scott Brewster; Jamie Oskin; Michelle Marcoux; Krista McNicol; brent barlow; Baili Clarke; Michele Sayball; Aimee Huyck; Erika Enos; Colleen Goodwin; Jolene Hedges; Sarah Walker; Megan Golani; Erin Friedman; Renae Rogers; Robert Lee; Amy Castellano; Joy Eckmann; Elaine Meade
Subject: RE: Gathering 2009 Call for Speaker and Beacon Nominations!

Hey everyone!

So in case it's useful for future advertising, here is a link to an article I wrote for last year's Gathering. You're free to use any or all of it for this year's gathering:http://www.scnm.edu/fifth-annual-naturopathic-gathering-bringing-wisdom-and-knowledge-to-younger-generations.html

Also I wanted to share an idea with you all and see what you think. In the last email Luke refernced setting up some scholarships to help people come to the Gathering. This is an idea that a few of us at SCNM came up with last year since for the second year in a row we actually made money from the Gathering. Making money has never been the intention of the Gathering, but in considering that we did, we were interested if a fraction of it could be used as a scholarship fund that people in financial need could apply for and get. I mentioned the idea to Adrien who in turn said he liked the idea and would bring it up with the NCNM crew, since they are in charge of this year's funds.  We have a fantastic crew of motivated folks from last year's Gathering, some of whom would undoubtably help with setting the scholaship infrastructure up. I personally think its a fantastic idea and would allow more people to attend the Gathering and learn from our elders here and now, but I would love to hear what other people think.

Also, I would HIGHLY encourage some of you to take up the call that William Franklin sent out a couple weeks back about being part of the future of the Gathering. It is SOOOOOO important that we form a committee of people that can help ensure the longevity of the Gathering and to help make tricky decisions like regarding money stuff, where to host the Gathering for next year, etc. So far a true  Gathering committe has never been defined and I feel it is so important to lay that groundwork now. If you care about the Gathering and want to see it blosom into the future, this is your call to arms! Email William Franklin for more details and all of you should strongly consider joining the new Yahoo! Gathering Discussion group: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/theNDgathering/

Thank you beautiful people! I look forward to seeing you all in November :)
Heath

[George Gonzales]

Hello!

Our student contact for Dr. Broadwell was wanting a bit more background on his significance to the profession and the gathering and I couldn't do him justice.  Would anyone be willing to share some sentiments regarding dr. Broadwell?

Luke

-----Original Message-----
From: derek.a...@gmail.com on behalf of Derek Andre
Sent: Tue 8/11/2009 8:43 PM
To: Kelly Hassberger
Cc: Heath McAllister; George Gonzales; Jessica Anderson; William Franklin; Elana Gelman; kimpa...@gmail.com; Katrina Stage; Kelsi Ervin; Saman Rezaie; Joe Holcomb; serron wilkie; April Darley; Krystle Etri; Nicole Cain; Michelle Maddux; hhil...@bridgeport.edu; Cecily Schuler; nat...@googlegroups.com; Edwards Louise; Zeff Jared; K Peters; Gonzales 01 George L.; kates-chinoy sara; Deborah Epstein; Ilg Raynette; Leila Fosdick Turner; Ryan Robbins; Chase Adrien; Joshua Lloyd; Caitlin O'Connor; Robert McElroy; aabr...@gmail.com; sharon Woodard; Pilsbury Cima; Jacqui Villalobos; jackson cb; Nina Walsh; Schwartz Dini; Niki Young; Benita Perch; Erin Fitzgerald; Brooke McNeal; Melissa Gastellum; Edgar Cere; ill...@earthlink.net; Adrienne Stewart; Scott Brewster; Jamie Oskin; Michelle Marcoux; Krista McNicol; brent barlow; Baili Clarke; Michele Sayball; Aimee Huyck; Erika Enos; Colleen Goodwin; Jolene Hedges; Sarah Walker; Megan Golani; Erin Friedman; Renae Rogers; Robert Lee; Amy Castellano; Joy Eckmann; Elaine Meade
Subject: Re: Gathering 2009 Call for Speaker and Beacon Nominations!

Hi Kelly and everyone,
I totally agree with your sentiments regarding getting the word out to docs
about The Gathering 2009 so they can "save the date."

How about we do both of your suggestions? I will work on updating the
website homepage to feature information about the date, time and place of
The Gathering while the rest of the site is being completed... and everyone
on this list could help get the word out to doctors (and students) that they
know.

Here's the details:
The Gathering 2009
Friday, November 6th - Sunday, November 8th
At National College of Natural Medicine (NCNM) in Portland, Oregon

Theme:  *A Link to Tradition, A look to the Future: (Re)Discovering the Vis*

[George Gonzales]

Here's a forwarded message from Derek Andre, one of our PR committee members.  The point:  The website is up and ready!  Hurray Derek, and I'm starting to feel the excitement already.  Feel free to check it out.

Here's the forwarded message:

The new website is in working order! I won't go so far as to say that it is complete; however, it is fully functional and we can consistently update and tweak it between now and the Gathering. Big thanks to all who contributed content in this last big push to have the site ready for September. Please-please-please poke around on there and let me know if you see anything missing, misspelled, incorrect, etc.... I need your feedback.

www.naturopathicgathering.com

Also, the ticket registration via Brown Paper Tickets has been updated and is ready for action (with questions and all). Please, will some of you go through the entire process of ordering your tickets for the Gathering and give me your feedback on that experience as well. When doing so, please go through the experience in the state of mind of a student that is not from NCNM or currently living in Portland... also, consider what the experience would be like for a doctor who is not from Portland.

http://www.naturopathicgathering.com/registration.php

As for communication... as of now all questions/comments submitted by users through the website and through Brown Paper Tickets will be sent to this group, "nat...@googlegroups.com." Until someone steps up to be the point person to pass on or answer these inquiries, I thought this was the most fair solution for the time being. Let me know if you are interested in being the Gathering's Customer Service Specialist, a hugely important responsibility (you may even get a plaque with your picture on it at the end of this thing)  : )

All right, my bags are packed and I am leaving out of town for 1 week (returning 9/9). I will be hard to reach between now and then but will check my email when possible. Another good way to get a hold of me would be voicemail: 503-997-3868

Come on guys & gals, let's turn up the energy a notch and really start pouring our passion into this thing. Just remember, as with most anything in life... the more we put in, the more we will get out... I promise you that!

See you all soon. Thanks in advance for your help with this.

 Derek Andre

-----Original Message-----
From: derek.a...@gmail.com on behalf of Derek Andre
Sent: Tue 8/11/2009 8:43 PM
To: Kelly Hassberger

Cc: Heath McAllister; George Gonzales; Jessica Anderson; William Franklin; Elana Gelman; kimpa...@gmail.com; Katrina Stage; Kelsi Ervin; Saman Rezaie; Joe Holcomb; serron wilkie; April Darley; Krystle Etri; Nicole Cain; Michelle Maddux; hhil...@bridgeport.edu; Cecily Schuler; nat...@googlegroups.com; Edwards Louise; Zeff Jared; K Peters; Gonzales 01 George L.; kates-chinoy sara; Deborah Epstein; Ilg Raynette; Leila Fosdick Turner; Ryan Robbins; Chase Adrien; Joshua Lloyd; Caitlin O'Connor; Robert McElroy; aabr...@gmail.com; sharon Woodard; Pilsbury Cima; Jacqui Villalobos; jackson cb; Nina Walsh; Schwartz Dini; Niki Young; Benita Perch; Erin Fitzgerald; Brooke McNeal; Melissa Gastellum; Edgar Cere; ill...@earthlink.net; Adrienne Stewart; Scott Brewster; Jamie Oskin; Michelle Marcoux; Krista McNicol; brent barlow; Baili Clarke; Michele Sayball; Aimee Huyck; Erika Enos; Colleen Goodwin; Jolene Hedges; Sarah Walker; Megan Golani; Erin Friedman; Renae Rogers; Robert Lee; Amy Castellano; Joy Eckmann; Elaine Meade
Subject: Re: Gathering 2009 Call for Speaker and Beacon Nominations!

Hi Kelly and everyone,
I totally agree with your sentiments regarding getting the word out to docs
about The Gathering 2009 so they can "save the date."

How about we do both of your suggestions? I will work on updating the
website homepage to feature information about the date, time and place of
The Gathering while the rest of the site is being completed... and everyone
on this list could help get the word out to doctors (and students) that they
know.

Here's the details:
The Gathering 2009
Friday, November 6th - Sunday, November 8th
At National College of Natural Medicine (NCNM) in Portland, Oregon

Theme:  *A Link to Tradition, A look to the Future: (Re)Discovering the Vis*

[George Gonzales]

Thanks everyone for all the feedback.  Dr. Kim Palka's comments were very helpful and we will be making appropriate changes in the near future.  Aimee I appreciate your feedback as well.  I'll lay out our rationale for choosing the way we did and people can weigh in.  The $200 dollar fee for doctors reflects the CE credit and the cost that we will incur for having CE credit from NCNM.  Considering the number of CE credits given it seems like an incredible deal in relation to other CE opportunities.  Is this true from others perspective?
$100 dollars was the fee last year and we want to encourage people to come for the whole weekend.  The daily fee was made to be reasonable but to avoid taking away a ticket from someone who wants to attend the entire weekend.  We are thinking the event will sell out this year to capacity (~200).  But perhaps this piece deserves some rethinking.  We hadn't fully considered the Friday conundrum.  I remember single day tickets being close to the full cost in previous years but perhaps I was mistaken. 

thanks everyone!

Luke

p.s. I think it would be great to have a photo gallery of past gathering on the website if anyone has photos to contribute perhaps we could think of an efficient way to put them on there.  Let me know.

-----Original Message-----
From: Aimee Huyck [mailto:Aimee...@bastyr.edu]
Sent: Mon 8/31/2009 6:56 PM
To: Heath McAllister; Kim Palka, N.D.; George Gonzales
Cc: Derek Andre; Kelly Hassberger; Jessica Anderson; William Franklin; Elana Gelman; Katrina Stage; Kelsi Ervin; Saman Rezaie; Joe Holcomb; serron wilkie; April Darley; Krystle Etri; Nicole Cain; Michelle Maddux; hhil...@bridgeport.edu; Cecily Schuler; nat...@googlegroups.com; Edwards Louise; Zeff Jared; K Peters; Gonzales 01 George L.; kates-chinoy sara; Deborah Epstein; Ilg Raynette; Leila Fosdick Turner; Ryan Robbins; Chase Adrien; Joshua Lloyd; Caitlin O'Connor; Robert McElroy; aabr...@gmail.com; sharon Woodard; Pilsbury Cima; Jacqui Villalobos; jackson cb; Nina Walsh; Schwartz Dini; Niki Young; Benita Perch; Erin Fitzgerald; Brooke McNeal; Melissa Gastellum; Edgar Cere; ill...@earthlink.net; Adrienne Stewart; Scott Brewster; Jamie Oskin; Michelle Marcoux; Krista McNicol; brent barlow; Baili Clarke; Michele Sayball; Erika Enos; Colleen Goodwin; Jolene Hedges; Sarah Walker; Megan Golani; Erin Friedman; Renae Rogers; Robert Lee; Amy Castellano; Joy Eckmann; Elaine Meade
Subject: RE: Gathering 2009 Call for Speaker and Beacon Nominations!

Hello all

I am curious about the fee structure for this years gathering. 2 years ago we charged $75 for the weekend, $25 for friday evening, $45 for saturday and $35 for sunday. it seemed reasonable though some people felt a bit shorted for the friday evening  as it was a bit short. what do you mean by a daily fee? does that include friday evening? $75 seems a bit much for a daily versus whole weekend fee. $100 for the weekend seems ok but I think that should be for all. I see no need to create a different fee schedule depending on who you are. the current fee structure makes assumptions about someone's financial status. I feel this shows adherence to some sort of convention about how fees are assigned and the gathering should not be conventional. don't we have funds from the last 2 Gatherings? If we want to have different fees I propose we create a fee range. We ask people to pay $50-$200 for the weekend and they decide what they can afford. this way we don't make assumptions or judgements about people's financial status and we end up being more inconclusive. 

be well
Aimee Huyck (was Ortiz)

The Vision of the Gathering is one of continual growth for Naturopathic Medicine as a true expression of its philosophy. The Mission remains to deepen the understanding of Naturopathic philosophy in our profession--thus informing its practice--by bringing students, doctors, and elders together in a safe, spirit-filled space for the Vis Medicatrix Naturae to work within them


________________________________

From: Heath McAllister [mailto:h.mcal...@scnm.edu]
Sent: Mon 8/31/2009 8:46 AM
To: Kim Palka, N.D.; George Gonzales
Cc: Derek Andre; Kelly Hassberger; Jessica Anderson; William Franklin; Elana Gelman; Katrina Stage; Kelsi Ervin; Saman Rezaie; Joe Holcomb; serron wilkie; April Darley; Krystle Etri; Nicole Cain; Michelle Maddux; hhil...@bridgeport.edu; Cecily Schuler; nat...@googlegroups.com; Edwards Louise; Zeff Jared; K Peters; Gonzales 01 George L.; kates-chinoy sara; Deborah Epstein; Ilg Raynette; Leila Fosdick Turner; Ryan Robbins; Chase Adrien; Joshua Lloyd; Caitlin O'Connor; Robert McElroy; aabr...@gmail.com; sharon Woodard; Pilsbury Cima; Jacqui Villalobos; jackson cb; Nina Walsh; Schwartz Dini; Niki Young; Benita Perch; Erin Fitzgerald; Brooke McNeal; Melissa Gastellum; Edgar Cere; ill...@earthlink.net; Adrienne Stewart; Scott Brewster; Jamie Oskin; Michelle Marcoux; Krista McNicol; brent barlow; Baili Clarke; Michele Sayball; Aimee Huyck; Erika Enos; Colleen Goodwin; Jolene Hedges; Sarah Walker; Megan Golani; Erin Friedman; Renae Rogers; Robert Lee; Amy Castellano; Joy Eckmann; Elaine Meade
Subject: RE: Gathering 2009 Call for Speaker and Beacon Nominations!

Great observations Kim! Thanks for taking a good hard look at things, it will definitely help out with getting things fine-tuned. I agree about the times that it would be good to list the speaker times, even a rough idea and start and stop times on the home-page. By the way, is Saine confirmed for this Gathering? Great job so far everyone!
-heath

_________________________________________________
Heath McAllister
Board Member
Naturopathic Society



-----Original Message-----
From: Kim Palka, N.D. [mailto:kimpa...@gmail.com]
Sent: Mon 8/31/2009 4:13 AM
To: George Gonzales
Cc: Derek Andre; Kelly Hassberger; Heath McAllister; Jessica Anderson; William Franklin; Elana Gelman; Katrina Stage; Kelsi Ervin; Saman Rezaie; Joe Holcomb; serron wilkie; April Darley; Krystle Etri; Nicole Cain; Michelle Maddux; hhil...@bridgeport.edu; Cecily Schuler; nat...@googlegroups.com; Edwards Louise; Zeff Jared; K Peters; Gonzales 01 George L.; kates-chinoy sara; Deborah Epstein; Ilg Raynette; Leila Fosdick Turner; Ryan Robbins; Chase Adrien; Joshua Lloyd; Caitlin O'Connor; Robert McElroy; aabr...@gmail.com; sharon Woodard; Pilsbury Cima; Jacqui Villalobos; jackson cb; Nina Walsh; Schwartz Dini; Niki Young; Benita Perch; Erin Fitzgerald; Brooke McNeal; Melissa Gastellum; Edgar Cere; ill...@earthlink.net; Adrienne Stewart; Scott Brewster; Jamie Oskin; Michelle Marcoux; Krista McNicol; brent barlow; Baili Clarke; Michele Sayball; Aimee Huyck; Erika Enos; Colleen Goodwin; Jolene Hedges; Sarah Walker; Megan Golani; Erin Friedman; Renae Rogers; Robert Lee; Amy Castellano; Joy Eckmann; Elaine Meade
Subject: Re: Gathering 2009 Call for Speaker and Beacon Nominations!

Morning,

Here's 2 cents from a not-from-Portland doc who is interested in coming to
The Gathering.  The website is great for the most part, but here's what it's
missing from my perspective.  The most important thing is times!  When I'm
needing to make flight arrangements, there is nowhere that tells me anything
about itinerary - when does it start, when does it end?  So, I thought
perhaps if I went to actually register it would tell me.  Here is another
place there is a problem.  When I click on the line that says "Click here to
purchase tickets" it goes to a general Brown Paper Tickets site and had some
other event up.  When I searched in their Search box for The Gathering,
nothing came up - by date, by event name or by place.  I went back and tried
clicking on the Brown Paper Tickets box underneath the line that says click
here and then was directed automatically to The Gathering page.  So there's
some disconnect there - at least in my experience.  Now that page does tell
me that it's from 5pm Friday to 5pm Sunday.  But it would be REALLY nice to
have some verification of that on the website itself.  With the trouble
getting to the ticket place, it doesn't inspire confidence that it's right.
Also, an itinerary would be nice if we might have to consider arriving late
or leaving early.  Is there a good break point for getting to the airport.
Speaking of airport...for us non-Portlanders, how far away is it?  Are rides
available to/from the airport?  Are taxis an option?  And how far away is
the hotel from NCNM?  Is it walking distance or do we need to rent a car?  I
assume that information will go under the Transportation page which is not
yet functional.  But it's an important piece for those of us coming from out
of town.

Nit-pick notice - on the food page, dairy has been spelled as diary.  Also,
if you really want people to bring their own table service, you need to note
that somewhere besides the last line of that food page.  I will tell you
that docs who are traveling there are probably not going to read through the
whole website - partly because if we're coming, we don't care about the food
and I'll be many won't even go to that page.  Second, if we're traveling,
the thought of packing table service isn't high on the list of what fits
into one bag anymore.  So I hope you have a Plan B for people who don't show
up with dishes.  I read through the whole site, partly because I'm coming,
but also because having planned one of these myself, I'm interested in the
whole thing!  But I really wouldn't count on everything doing so.

Okay, those are my main concerns at the moment.  Thanks for your continued
work and energy on this SO important project!  I'm looking forward to
participating once again in this fabulous event.

--
Kim Palka, ND

"Choice is the chisel with which we sculpt and shape the reality of who and
what we are."
        --The Face of Consciousness

[George Gonzales]

Hey Kim,

On the registration process there is an option to choose whether or not you would like a ride from the airport and/or housing with a student.  Clearly we need to make this more clear on the registration page! so that people will know.  Does that answer your question about the car?  Unless you want to add some early morning excursions to the gorge, you probably won't need one.  The hotel is a very easy bus ride or a fairly decent walk but we plan to have some sort of shuttle when the doctors are picked up for students as well. 

Luke

-----Original Message-----
From: Kim Palka, N.D. [mailto:kimpa...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tue 9/1/2009 5:20 AM
To: George Gonzales
Cc: Aimee Huyck; Heath McAllister; Derek Andre; Kelly Hassberger; Jessica Anderson; William Franklin; Elana Gelman; Katrina Stage; Kelsi Ervin; Saman Rezaie; Joe Holcomb; serron wilkie; April Darley; Krystle Etri; Nicole Cain; Michelle Maddux; hhil...@bridgeport.edu; Cecily Schuler; nat...@googlegroups.com; Edwards Louise; Zeff Jared; K Peters; Gonzales 01 George L.; kates-chinoy sara; Deborah Epstein; Ilg Raynette; Leila Fosdick Turner; Ryan Robbins; Chase Adrien; Joshua Lloyd; Caitlin O'Connor; Robert McElroy; aabr...@gmail.com; sharon Woodard; Pilsbury Cima; Jacqui Villalobos; jackson cb; Nina Walsh; Schwartz Dini; Niki Young; Benita Perch; Erin Fitzgerald; Brooke McNeal; Melissa Gastellum; Edgar Cere; ill...@earthlink.net; Adrienne Stewart; Scott Brewster; Jamie Oskin; Michelle Marcoux; Krista McNicol; brent barlow; Baili Clarke; Michele Sayball; Erika Enos; Colleen Goodwin; Jolene Hedges; Sarah Walker; Megan Golani; Erin Friedman; Renae Rogers; Robert Lee; Amy Castellano; Joy Eckmann; Elaine Meade
Subject: Re: Gathering 2009 Call for Speaker and Beacon Nominations!

HI everyone,

I'm glad my comments were helpful, but I was also hoping for some answers to
them!  I'm looking at flight possibilities and one of the big questions is
if I have to rent a car.  Comment on/from a financial perspective that's
been questioned here, I do think the fee is pretty reasonable from a CE
standpoint and knowing what I know from experience to be the UNQUESTIONABLE
value of this weekend, I won't quibble over paying $200.  However, when I'm
adding in a flight from 3 time zones away, hotel, 3 dinners, plus the loss
of 2 days in the office...it adds up and it would be great to not have to
add another $100 for a car that's going to sit in a parking lot 99% of the
weekend.  When I did the one in AZ, we had students doing airport runs and
hotel to SCNM runs in the mornings.

Another thought occurred to me too...any way to see if there are others
interested in sharing a hotel room?  Could there be a ride/room share board
on the site for us to access?  Maybe it's not really worth it for the
handful of the people like me coming in, but it's just another thought.  I'm
working on some colleagues already hoping they'll join me and share!

Thanks again for all your work and enjoy your day!

Kim

[Wonhee Oh]

I would like to make one suggestion about the ride situation from/to airport

the MAX (lightrail) is conveniently located at the PDX airport...  it cost is only $1.50 for students and in 30 mins you will be in downtown Portland.
This will not only minimize the travel time/gas from our end, but it will be good way to demonstrate/promote the greener side of Portland.

after quick 30 min train ride from PDX to SW 5th and Salmon...   rides can be arranged from Pioneer Sq. (which is only few blocks from NCNM)
I believe this will be fun and exciting way to experience Portland for many first time visitors.
 
please goto trimet for more info on train times:
http://trimet.org/index.shtml  

Wonhee Oh
ND2 President

[George Gonzales]

How did it work in the past for bringing a speaker guest along?  I assume last year that Dr. Saine and others who brought guests that their travel expenses were paid as well?

Luke



-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Holcomb [mailto:joenat...@gmail.com]

Sent: Wed 9/2/2009 2:14 PM
To: George Gonzales

Cc: Derek Andre; Kelly Hassberger; Heath McAllister; Jessica Anderson; William Franklin; Elana Gelman; kimpa...@gmail.com; Katrina Stage; Kelsi Ervin; Saman Rezaie; serron wilkie; April Darley; Krystle Etri; Nicole Cain; Michelle Maddux; hhil...@bridgeport.edu; Cecily Schuler; nat...@googlegroups.com; Edwards Louise; Zeff Jared; K Peters; Gonzales 01 George L.; kates-chinoy sara; Deborah Epstein; Ilg Raynette; Leila Fosdick Turner; Ryan Robbins; Chase Adrien; Joshua Lloyd; Caitlin O'Connor; Robert McElroy; aabr...@gmail.com; sharon Woodard; Pilsbury Cima; Jacqui Villalobos; jackson cb; Nina Walsh; Schwartz Dini; Niki Young; Benita Perch; Erin Fitzgerald; Brooke McNeal; Melissa Gastellum; Edgar Cere; ill...@earthlink.net; Adrienne Stewart; Scott Brewster; Jamie Oskin; Michelle Marcoux; Krista McNicol; brent barlow; Baili Clarke; Michele Sayball; Aimee Huyck; Erika Enos; Colleen Goodwin; Jolene Hedges; Sarah Walker; Megan Golani; Erin Sharman; Renae Rogers; Robert Lee; Amy Castellano; Joy Eckmann; Elaine Meade
Subject: Re: Gathering 2009 Call for Speaker and Beacon Nominations!

Hi Everyone,

The website looks great! very good job the only correction I can make is on
"the gathering" page. The Gathering is actually the brain child of Randy
Spicer and then myself and the others (Randy, Brendan McCarthy, Christina
Romero Bosch, and John Robinson fleshed out the idea a bit and then I ran
with it. Probably not a big deal the way it is currently worded I just did
not want to leave out Brendan, Christina, and John and the influence they
had on that first gathering.

As for Dr. Broadwell, if not for him, bastyr, turska and  a few others; and
their williness to teach and keep national college open at great presonal
sacrifice, Naturopathic Medicine would have loated into oblivion. it is hard
to believe now at this point but if you were to speak with him and Dr.
Sensenig and learn about that time period it was very touch and go as to
naturopathic medicine actually surviving. They all spent time in prison or
were investigated heavily, in fact an old saying is "you weren't a good
Naturopath unless you had spent time in prision or hiding"

A good read on that time period is "Divided Legacy Volume 4"  by Harris
Coulter Chapter 9 page 355

"Naturopathy in the 1920's had as many as 12 schools with about 200
students. By the early 1950's it had almost ceased to exsist but was revived
in 1956 with the establishment of the National College of Naturopathic
Medicine in Portland, OR...."

Jared Zeff describes National College of Naturopathic Medicine in the early
to mid 70's as bleak and at the low point of the profession, This is where
Dr. Broadwell was involved in keeping the profession alive.

Not sure who the contact for Dr. Broadwell is but they are extremely lucky
to be able to get to know this man and his amazing wife, please call Jared
Zeff and Jim Sensenig to get more vital information, this is an incredible
opprotunity for all of us to learn from one of the last living torch
carriers, (note: this is why we called the beacon award what we did, was
because he with his colleuges was a beacon to keep this profession alive.

I hope that is helpful.

Joe

--
Dr. Joe Holcomb N.D.

Cedar Natural Health Center
1870 N. Main St. Suite 206
Cedar City, UT 84721
435-586-4854
www.cedarnaturalhealth.com

[George Gonzales]

Hey Adrienne,

Could you elaborate about how NMSA could help accomplish this?  Thanks for the ideas.

Luke

-----Original Message-----
From: Adrienne Stewart [mailto:a.St...@scnm.edu]
Sent: Thu 9/10/2009 10:34 AM
To: George Gonzales; Joe Holcomb

Cc: Derek Andre; Kelly Hassberger; Heath McAllister; Jessica Anderson; William Franklin; Elana Gelman; kimpa...@gmail.com; Katrina Stage; Kelsi Ervin; Saman Rezaie; serron wilkie; April Darley; Krystle Etri; Nicole Cain; Michelle Maddux; hhil...@bridgeport.edu; Cecily Schuler; nat...@googlegroups.com; Edwards Louise; Zeff Jared; K Peters; Gonzales 01 George L.; kates-chinoy sara; Deborah Epstein; Ilg Raynette; Leila Fosdick Turner; Ryan Robbins; Chase Adrien; Joshua Lloyd; Caitlin O'Connor; Robert McElroy; aabr...@gmail.com; sharon Woodard; Pilsbury Cima; Jacqui Villalobos; jackson cb; Nina Walsh; Schwartz Dini; Niki Young; Benita Perch; Erin Fitzgerald; Brooke McNeal; Melissa Gastellum; Edgar Cere; ill...@earthlink.net; Scott Brewster; Jamie Oskin; Michelle Marcoux; Krista McNicol; brent barlow; Baili Clarke; Michele Sayball; Aimee Huyck; Erika Enos; Colleen Goodwin; Jolene Hedges; Sarah Walker; Megan Golani; Erin Sharman; Renae Rogers; Robert Lee; Amy Castellano; Joy Eckmann; Elaine Meade
Subject: The Gathering & NMSA

Hello everyone!  I just want to say that I LOVE the website and all the hard work everyone is putting into the Gathering. Good idea to include a Facebook group.  Someone asked a while back for a picture of last year's Gathering so I am attaching a photo. 

I know that some of us have started to have some conversations via yahoo groups but I want to put it out there again.  I want to open the conversion about where we want to take the Gathering and how it can remain a student-led organization.  This is why I am proposing that the Naturopathic Medical Student Association help out the Gathering committees by increasing communication among the schools and keeping it a student-run event.  It is hard to keep an organized and structured Gathering group with past committees and now practicing doctors.  I think NMSA is definitely a growing organization among all the schools that could help out in this way. 

I welcome any ideas or comments.

-Adrienne Stewart, SCNM   

[serron wilkie]

Sorry to be a little out of the loop guys...its been very busy this summer.  

Kim (and others)  I just wanted to remind folks on the committee that the max is a VERY easy way to get from the airport into town.  Our family does it everytime we fly into to PDX, its inexpensive (a couple $), there is NO TRAFFIC to deal with, its environmentally friendly, and it leaves every 20 minutes.  doesn't get easier than that!!!  of course having that said it is nice (during off rush hour times) to get a ride from a live person so we could put this option out there as well.

here is the website for specifics: 

http://trimet.org/max/

can't wait to see you all, 

serron

On Sep 1, 2009, at 5:20 AM, Kim Palka, N.D. wrote:

HI everyone,

I'm glad my comments were helpful, but I was also hoping for some answers to them!  I'm looking at flight possibilities and one of the big questions is if I have to rent a car.  Comment on/from a financial perspective that's been questioned here, I do think the fee is pretty reasonable from a CE standpoint and knowing what I know from experience to be the UNQUESTIONABLE value of this weekend, I won't quibble over paying $200.  However, when I'm adding in a flight from 3 time zones away, hotel, 3 dinners, plus the loss of 2 days in the office...it adds up and it would be great to not have to add another $100 for a car that's going to sit in a parking lot 99% of the weekend.  When I did the one in AZ, we had students doing airport runs and hotel to SCNM runs in the mornings. 

Another thought occurred to me too...any way to see if there are others interested in sharing a hotel room?  Could there be a ride/room share board on the site for us to access?  Maybe it's not really worth it for the handful of the people like me coming in, but it's just another thought.  I'm working on some colleagues already hoping they'll join me and share!

Thanks again for all your work and enjoy your day!

Kim

[serron wilkie]

The website looks great! 

[George Gonzales]

Thanks.  Unfortunately we made a slight error in our initial invitation to the speakers so we will have to explain to them our error.  We will be bringing Prudence Broadwell as a paid guest, along with Robertx but our other presenters we will explain that a shared room and entrance to the gathering is really the extent of our abilities for the guests.  Since we made the error, however, I do feel we should honor our word if there is a conflict. 

FYI, our crew will also be paying our way as we thought this to be a wonderful tradition.  We did have some disagreement within our group so perhaps the reasoning for this could be rehashed at some point.  Personally I feel it pays homage to the hard workers that made the event possible in the past who also paid their way. 

Luke

-----Original Message-----
From: Michelle Maddux [mailto:m.ma...@scnm.edu]
Sent: Fri 9/18/2009 5:43 PM
To: Deborah Epstein
Cc: George Gonzales; Joe Holcomb; Derek Andre; Kelly Hassberger; Heath McAllister; Jessica Anderson; William Franklin; Elana Gelman; kimpa...@gmail.com; Katrina Stage; Kelsi Ervin; Saman Rezaie; serron wilkie; April Darley; Krystle Etri; Nicole Cain; hhil...@bridgeport.edu; Cecily Schuler; nat...@googlegroups.com; Edwards Louise; Zeff Jared; K Peters; Gonzales 01 George L.; kates-chinoy sara; Ilg Raynette; Leila Fosdick Turner; Ryan Robbins; Chase Adrien; Joshua Lloyd; Caitlin O'Connor; Robert McElroy; aabr...@gmail.com; sharon Woodard; Pilsbury Cima; Jacqui Villalobos; jackson cb; Nina Walsh; Schwartz Dini; Niki Young; Benita Perch; Erin Fitzgerald; Brooke McNeal; Melissa Gastellum; Edgar Cere; ill...@earthlink.net; Adrienne Stewart; Scott Brewster; Jamie Oskin; Michelle Marcoux; Krista McNicol; brent barlow; Baili Clarke; Michele Sayball; Aimee Huyck; Erika Enos; Colleen Goodwin; Jolene Hedges; Sarah Walker; Megan Golani; Erin Sharman; Renae Rogers; Robert Lee; Amy Castellano; Joy Eckmann; Elaine Meade
Subject: Re: Gathering 2009 Call for Speaker and Beacon Nominations!

To my recollection we did not pay for the guests of the speakers last 
year either....

Michelle Maddux
m.ma...@scnm.edu





On Sep 18, 2009, at 5:25 PM, Deborah Epstein wrote:

> I couldn't tell if this particular question got answered, but at 
> Bastyr a few years ago we did not pay speakers' guests' travel 
> arrangements. We paid all travel arrangements for the speaker, only. 
> If the speaker wants to bring a guest, certainly sharing the already-
> paid-for hotel room would cover the guest's lodging expense! 
> Anything further would (and should) be that guest's responsibility. 
> Even in the corporate world one would generally not expect for the 
> guest's expenses to be paid (unless perhaps at a pharmaceutical 
> industry bribe, ahem I mean boondoggle, oops I mean "educational 
> event."). Thus, definitely not in the non-profit all-volunteer-
> driven event world! Did somebody ask about that, or were you just 
> wondering?

>
> From: George Gonzales [mailto:george....@student.ncnm.edu]
> Sent: Thu 9/10/2009 10:12 AM
> To: Joe Holcomb

> Cc: Derek Andre; Kelly Hassberger; Heath McAllister; Jessica 
> Anderson; William Franklin; Elana Gelman; kimpa...@gmail.com; 
> Katrina Stage; Kelsi Ervin; Saman Rezaie; serron wilkie; April 
> Darley; Krystle Etri; Nicole Cain; Michelle Maddux; hhil...@bridgeport.edu
> ; Cecily Schuler; nat...@googlegroups.com; Edwards Louise; Zeff 
> Jared; K Peters; Gonzales 01 George L.; kates-chinoy sara; Deborah 
> Epstein; Ilg Raynette; Leila Fosdick Turner; Ryan Robbins; Chase 
> Adrien; Joshua Lloyd; Caitlin O'Connor; Robert McElroy; aabr...@gmail.com
> ; sharon Woodard; Pilsbury Cima; Jacqui Villalobos; jackson cb; Nina 
> Walsh; Schwartz Dini; Niki Young; Benita Perch; Erin Fitzgerald; 
> Brooke McNeal; Melissa Gastellum; Edgar Cere; ill...@earthlink.net; 
> Adrienne Stewart; Scott Brewster; Jamie Oskin; Michelle Marcoux; 
> Krista McNicol; brent barlow; Baili Clarke; Michele Sayball; Aimee 
> Huyck; Erika Enos; Colleen Goodwin; Jolene Hedges; Sarah Walker; 
> Megan Golani; Erin Sharman; Renae Rogers; Robert Lee; Amy 
> Castellano; Joy Eckmann; Elaine Meade

> Subject: RE: Gathering 2009 Call for Speaker and Beacon Nominations!
>

> > > > > kpass...@yahoo.com; george.l.gonzales.
> 0...@alum.dartmouth.org;

[George Gonzales]

Thats a fantastic recap of your recollections deborah.  I like the feeling of the aspect of "chipping in for the travel expenses of our mentors".  We don't want to lose this feeling.  I think that its important information to know about the history and the present history of the gatherings purpose and sentiment.  I'm honored to be a part of it.


Luke

-----Original Message-----
From: Deborah Epstein [mailto:Deborah...@bastyr.edu]
Sent: Sat 10/3/2009 3:30 PM
To: George Gonzales; Michelle Maddux
Cc: Joe Holcomb; Derek Andre; Kelly Hassberger; Heath McAllister; Jessica Anderson; William Franklin; Elana Gelman; kimpa...@gmail.com; Katrina Stage; Kelsi Ervin; Saman Rezaie; serron wilkie; April Darley; Krystle Etri; Nicole Cain; hhil...@bridgeport.edu; Cecily Schuler; nat...@googlegroups.com; Edwards Louise; Zeff Jared; K Peters; Gonzales 01 George L.; kates-chinoy sara; Ilg Raynette; Leila Fosdick Turner; Ryan Robbins; Chase Adrien; Joshua Lloyd; Caitlin O'Connor; Robert McElroy; aabr...@gmail.com; sharon Woodard; Pilsbury Cima; Jacqui Villalobos; jackson cb; Nina Walsh; Schwartz Dini; Niki Young; Benita Perch; Erin Fitzgerald; Brooke McNeal; Melissa Gastellum; Edgar Cere; ill...@earthlink.net; Adrienne Stewart; Scott Brewster; Jamie Oskin; Michelle Marcoux; Krista McNicol; brent barlow; Baili Clarke; Michele Sayball; Aimee Huyck; Erika Enos; Colleen Goodwin; Jolene Hedges; Sarah Walker; Megan Golani; Erin Sharman; Renae Rogers; Robert Lee; Amy Castellano; Joy Eckmann; Elaine Meade
Subject: RE: Gathering 2009 Call for Speaker and Beacon Nominations!

Can't say for last year, but as for the year before at Bastyr, when Aimee and I were the primary on-site coordinators... I frankly remember nothing about the money because Aimee did all that part :).

However, if I were to retroactively impute some subconscious intentions, here are the 3 things I would offer:
1) there are a LOT of people who volunteer a good deal of time, on down the spectrum to contributing 1 or 2 highly appreciated hours, and where would the line be drawn as far as who contributes money and who doesn't? Then on a practical level...
2) up until then, the Gathering had always been a very skin-of-our-teeth adventure, and none of us guessed there would have been a little $ left over, and the larger fear was that we wouldn't cover basic travel expenses of the speakers if any of us didn't chip in and
3) in light of number 2, the idea is that this isn't a conference -- it is a grass-roots event in which we were essentially all chipping in to the travel costs of our teachers and mentors who were chipping in their time for free, and why would we not contribute to that as well? The fact that we were volunteering our time was for the love of the Gathering, and for the down-deep need for it to occur, and not essentially in trade for free admission. Anybody who needed it in trade for free admission was considered separately from a you-can-pay-less-if-you-need-to basis, and not from the sense of being paid for volunteering. And because one of the values has been to keep the costs low by not doing extraneous fancy things so that as many people as possible could afford it, it seemed pretty approachable for everyone to chip in, as it's pretty well only travel expenses, and perhaps some refreshments, that were involved. That particular year I think lunch on Saturday was included, but that was because Aimee sweet-talked the Dean to spring for it, or some such thing. It wasn't paid for by admission fees. Not sure what has happened other years...

Hope that helps.
Many blessings,
Deborah

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[serron wilkie]

Meals have already definitely been a planned part of the gathering this year if you take a look at the website you shall see they are included in the price!  Not having extravagance has also been addressed as well as the topic of making The Gathering accessible to as many as we can support.  The group understands and has embraced the intention and spirit.

The question at hand is actually very different...... its about paying for the accommodations ie flights, transportation, and housing of guest that come with our speakers ie a mentee of a doc or their wife or husband......  these types of guests.   The offer was accidently extended to speakers guests and now we do not know if the gathering can afford it. 

On Oct 5, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Aimee Huyck wrote:

Well said Deb. I thought it worked well to have the option of pay what you can afford to those who seemed to need an option.

 

a little clarification. meals have been a part of the 3 gatherings I have attended. the host school has provided lunches saturday and sunday with no extra cost I do not know what funds were used in other years but at bastyr the naturopathic department covered our food expenses. the student council also donated funds to help support the event.  because of these donations along with fees ($75/person, $45 and $35 daily rates) we were able to cover all expenses and end up in the black. I continue to feel strongly about keeping costs as low as possible to  keep the weekend as accessible as possible. 

 

 

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From: Deborah Epstein

Sent: Sat 10/3/2009 3:30 PM
To: George Gonzales; Michelle Maddux

Cc: Joe Holcomb; Derek Andre; Kelly Hassberger; Heath McAllister; Jessica Anderson; William Franklin; Elana Gelman; kimpa...@gmail.com; Katrina Stage; Kelsi Ervin; Saman Rezaie; serron wilkie; April Darley; Krystle Etri; Nicole Cain; hhil...@bridgeport.edu; Cecily Schuler; nat...@googlegroups.com; Edwards Louise; Zeff Jared; K Peters; Gonzales 01 George L.; kates-chinoy sara; Ilg Raynette; Leila Fosdick Turner; Ryan Robbins; Chase Adrien; Joshua Lloyd; Caitlin O'Connor; Robert McElroy; aabr...@gmail.com; sharon Woodard; Pilsbury Cima; Jacqui Villalobos; jackson cb; Nina Walsh; Schwartz Dini; Niki Young; Benita Perch; Erin Fitzgerald; Brooke McNeal; Melissa Gastellum; Edgar Cere; ill...@earthlink.net; Adrienne Stewart; Scott Brewster; Jamie Oskin; Michelle Marcoux; Krista McNicol; brent barlow; Baili Clarke; Michele Sayball; Aimee Huyck; Erika Enos; Colleen Goodwin; Jolene Hedges; Sarah Walker; Megan Golani; Erin Sharman; Renae Rogers; Robert Lee; Amy Castellano; Joy Eckmann; Elaine Meade

Subject: RE: Gathering 2009 Call for Speaker and Beacon Nominations!

Can't say for last year, but as for the year before at Bastyr, when Aimee and I were the primary on-site coordinators... I frankly remember nothing about the money because Aimee did all that part :).

 

However, if I were to retroactively impute some subconscious intentions, here are the 3 things I would offer:

1) there are a LOT of people who volunteer a good deal of time, on down the spectrum to contributing 1 or 2 highly appreciated hours, and where would the line be drawn as far as who contributes money and who doesn't? Then on a practical level...

2) up until then, the Gathering had always been a very skin-of-our-teeth adventure, and none of us guessed there would have been a little $ left over, and the larger fear was that we wouldn't cover basic travel expenses of the speakers if any of us didn't chip in and

3) in light of number 2, the idea is that this isn't a conference -- it is a grass-roots event in which we were essentially all chipping in to the travel costs of our teachers and mentors who were chipping in their time for free, and why would we not contribute to that as well? The fact that we were volunteering our time was for the love of the Gathering, and for the down-deep need for it to occur, and not essentially in trade for free admission. Anybody who needed it in trade for free admission was considered separately from a you-can-pay-less-if-you-need-to basis, and not from the sense of being paid for volunteering. And because one of the values has been to keep the costs low by not doing extraneous fancy things so that as many people as possible could afford it, it seemed pretty approachable for everyone to chip in, as it's pretty well only travel expenses, and perhaps some refreshments, that were involved. That particular year I think lunch on Saturday was included, but that was because Aimee sweet-talked the Dean to spring for it, or some such thing. It wasn't paid for by admission fees. Not sure what has happened other years...

 

Hope that helps.

Many blessings,

Deborah

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From: George Gonzales [mailto:george....@student.ncnm.edu]

Sent: Sat 9/19/2009 8:33 PM
To: Michelle Maddux; Deborah Epstein

Cc: Joe Holcomb; Derek Andre; Kelly Hassberger; Heath McAllister; Jessica Anderson; William Franklin; Elana Gelman; kimpa...@gmail.com; Katrina Stage; Kelsi Ervin; Saman Rezaie; serron wilkie; April Darley; Krystle Etri; Nicole Cain; hhil...@bridgeport.edu; Cecily Schuler; nat...@googlegroups.com; Edwards Louise; Zeff Jared; K Peters; Gonzales 01 George L.; kates-chinoy sara; Ilg Raynette; Leila Fosdick Turner; Ryan Robbins; Chase Adrien; Joshua Lloyd; Caitlin O'Connor; Robert McElroy; aabr...@gmail.com; sharon Woodard; Pilsbury Cima; Jacqui Villalobos; jackson cb; Nina Walsh; Schwartz Dini; Niki Young; Benita Perch; Erin Fitzgerald; Brooke McNeal; Melissa Gastellum; Edgar Cere; ill...@earthlink.net; Adrienne Stewart; Scott Brewster; Jamie Oskin; Michelle Marcoux; Krista McNicol; brent barlow; Baili Clarke; Michele Sayball; Aimee Huyck; Erika Enos; Colleen Goodwin; Jolene Hedges; Sarah Walker; Megan Golani; Erin Sharman; Renae Rogers; Robert Lee; Amy Castellano; Joy Eckmann; Elaine Meade

[George Gonzales]

We did that Heath and it looks like it should be no problem.  At least so far everyone has been fine with it.  Don't want to scare anyone!

Luke

-----Original Message-----
From: Heath McAllister [mailto:h.mcal...@scnm.edu]
Sent: Mon 10/5/2009 5:28 PM
To: serron wilkie; Aimee Huyck
Cc: Deborah Epstein; George Gonzales; Michelle Maddux; Joe Holcomb; Derek Andre; Kelly Hassberger; Jessica Anderson; William Franklin; Elana Gelman; kimpa...@gmail.com; Katrina Stage; Kelsi Ervin; Saman Rezaie; April Darley; Krystle Etri; Nicole Cain; hhil...@bridgeport.edu; Cecily Schuler; nat...@googlegroups.com; Edwards Louise; Zeff Jared; K Peters; Gonzales 01 George L.; kates-chinoy sara; Ilg Raynette; Leila Fosdick Turner; Ryan Robbins; Chase Adrien; Joshua Lloyd; Caitlin O'Connor; Robert McElroy; aabr...@gmail.com; sharon Woodard; Pilsbury Cima; Jacqui Villalobos; jackson cb; Nina Walsh; Schwartz Dini; Niki Young; Benita Perch; Erin Fitzgerald; Brooke McNeal; Melissa Gastellum; Edgar Cere; ill...@earthlink.net; Adrienne Stewart; Scott Brewster; Jamie Oskin; Michelle Marcoux; Krista McNicol; brent barlow; Baili Clarke; Michele Sayball; Erika Enos; Colleen Goodwin; Jolene Hedges; Sarah Walker; Megan Golani; Erin Sharman; Renae Rogers; Robert Lee; Amy Castellano; Joy Eckmann; Elaine Meade
Subject: RE: Gathering 2009 Call for Speaker and Beacon Nominations!

I know that last year we did NOT cover guest expenses.... I don't really think it's feasible unless we jack up the registration costs which I know none of us wants to see happen. Is there any way to admit the mistake, correct it, and move on without offending people? If need be it might be appropriate to remind everyone that this is a student run event that runs on a small budget... I'm sure most of the speakers will be understanding
-heath

[George Gonzales]

Hello everyone,

After a long bit of thought, I agree with Kelly, Aimee and William.  If it's not broken don't fix it, and the Gathering is clearly not broken.  One idea that may allow NMSA to be more effective in getting the word out is to establish a line of communication between the philosophy chair of NMSA and the gathering committee.  Perhaps the philosophy chair of NMSA can even be an actual or honorary member of some sort to keep in the loop about the gathering. 

Another question that Kelly brought up, that I think is a larger question:  As the gathering grows, how do we keep it "with the original intent".  I am curious Kelly, if you have any feedback about how this gathering could have done better in this regard for future groups.  I think its hard to be intimate with so many people, which is why we tried a smaller group sessions, as well as having more doctors overall to interact with. 

love and light,

Luke




-----Original Message-----
From: Kelly Hassberger [mailto:k.hass...@scnm.edu]
Sent: Thu 11/12/2009 12:57 PM
To: Adrienne Stewart; Aimee Huyck; serron wilkie; nat...@googlegroups.com
Cc: Derek Andre; Heath McAllister; Jessica Anderson; Franklin William; Elana Gelman; N.D. Palka Kim; Katrina Stage; Kelsi Ervin; Saman Rezaie; Holcomb Joe; April Darley; Krystle Etri; Nicole Cain; Michelle Maddux; hhil...@bridgeport.edu; Cecily Schuler; Edwards Louise; Zeff Jared; K Peters; Gonzales 01 George L.; kates-chinoy sara; Deborah Epstein; Ilg Raynette; Leila Fosdick Turner; Ryan Robbins; Chase Adrien; Joshua Lloyd; Caitlin O'Connor; Robert McElroy; aabr...@gmail.com; sharon Woodard; Pilsbury Cima; Jacqui Villalobos; jackson cb; Nina Walsh; Schwartz Dini; Niki Young; Benita Perch; Erin Fitzgerald; Brooke McNeal; Melissa Gastellum; Edgar Cere; ill...@earthlink.net; Scott Brewster; Jamie Oskin; Michelle Marcoux; Krista McNicol; brent barlow; Baili Clarke; Michele Sayball; Erika Enos; Colleen Goodwin; Jolene Hedges; Sarah Walker; Megan Golani; Erin Sharman; Renae Rogers; Robert Lee; Amy Castellano; Joy Eckmann; Elaine Meade
Subject: RE: NMSA & The Gathering

Hi Everyone.

I have to agree with AImee on this topic. One of the things that I hold dear about the Gathering is the opportunity it gives students to really connect with the doctors on a personal basis. I have some reservations about the Gathering becoming such a large event that we lose the root of why the Gathering was originally created. Over the past two years, it is obvious that the Gathering has grown and therefore clearly has a lot of student support. However, I feel personally more and more of a disconnect with the original intention of the Gathering as it moves towards a more organized, convention type of event. I think that putting the Gathering under the scope of a group such as NMSA would further bring the Gathering away from where I personally would like to see it go. For me, the moments that meant the most to me at the Gathering were those times that students are able to have conversations and interactions with the Docs as well as those opportunities to learn about personal stories from those that came before us. I would encourage the next group that takes over the Gathering to keep this is mind. Joe often mentions that he originally created the Gathering to give students an opportunity to connect with their elders and I believe that this intention should remain and be carried on from year to year. I also, do not see the efforts of the Gathering diminishing in any way. Each year very dedicated students take the gathering to new heights and I have no doubt that this will continue.

I would love to hear everyone's views on this topic. I think that as the Gathering grows year to year we need to be sure to uphold its mission and vision and I would love to hear others opinions on how we can maintain this is the future.

Kelly

Kelly Hassberger
10th Quarter Student
Naturopathic Society Board Member

Southwest College of Naturopathic Medicine
k.hass...@scnm.edu
616-540-0723



-----Original Message-----

From: Adrienne Stewart
Sent: Thu 11/12/2009 11:56 AM
To: Aimee Huyck; serron wilkie; nat...@googlegroups.com
Cc: Derek Andre; Kelly Hassberger; Heath McAllister; Jessica Anderson; Franklin William; Elana Gelman; N.D. Palka Kim; Katrina Stage; Kelsi Ervin; Saman Rezaie; Holcomb Joe; April Darley; Krystle Etri; Nicole Cain; Michelle Maddux; hhil...@bridgeport.edu; Cecily Schuler; Edwards Louise; Zeff Jared; K Peters; Gonzales 01 George L.; kates-chinoy sara; Deborah Epstein; Ilg Raynette; Leila Fosdick Turner; Ryan Robbins; Chase Adrien; Joshua Lloyd; Caitlin O'Connor; Robert McElroy; aabr...@gmail.com; sharon Woodard; Pilsbury Cima; Jacqui Villalobos; jackson cb; Nina Walsh; Schwartz Dini; Niki Young; Benita Perch; Erin Fitzgerald; Brooke McNeal; Melissa Gastellum; Edgar Cere; ill...@earthlink.net; Scott Brewster; Jamie Oskin; Michelle Marcoux; Krista McNicol; brent barlow; Baili Clarke; Michele Sayball; Erika Enos; Colleen Goodwin; Jolene Hedges; Sarah Walker; Megan Golani; Erin Friedman; Renae Rogers; Robert Lee; Amy Castellano; Joy Eckmann; Elaine Meade
Subject: RE: NMSA & The Gathering

Hi Aimee and anyone else =)!

Thanks for your thoughts on this.  My biggest intention is that we continue to keep the Gatherings alive and strong for years and years to come.  What I have noticed in several organizations is that there are some very enthusiastic students when founding or restructuring an organization and then it fades when the group of students graduate.  I see efforts being made to strengthen NMSA and I think that it might be a consistent group for students nation-wide.  I welcome more thoughts on this.

-Adrienne Stewart

-----Original Message-----
From: Aimee Huyck [mailto:Aimee...@bastyr.edu]

Sent: Thu 11/12/2009 11:08 AM
To: Adrienne Stewart; serron wilkie; nat...@googlegroups.com
Cc: Derek Andre; Kelly Hassberger; Heath McAllister; Jessica Anderson; Franklin William; Elana Gelman; N.D. Palka Kim; Katrina Stage; Kelsi Ervin; Saman Rezaie; Holcomb Joe; April Darley; Krystle Etri; Nicole Cain; Michelle Maddux; hhil...@bridgeport.edu; Cecily Schuler; Edwards Louise; Zeff Jared; K Peters; Gonzales 01 George L.; kates-chinoy sara; Deborah Epstein; Ilg Raynette; Leila Fosdick Turner; Ryan Robbins; Chase Adrien; Joshua Lloyd; Caitlin O'Connor; Robert McElroy; aabr...@gmail.com; sharon Woodard; Pilsbury Cima; Jacqui Villalobos; jackson cb; Nina Walsh; Schwartz Dini; Niki Young; Benita Perch; Erin Fitzgerald; Brooke McNeal; Melissa Gastellum; Edgar Cere; ill...@earthlink.net; Scott Brewster; Jamie Oskin; Michelle Marcoux; Krista McNicol; brent barlow; Baili Clarke; Michele Sayball; Erika Enos; Colleen Goodwin; Jolene Hedges; Sarah Walker; Megan Golani; Erin Friedman; Renae Rogers; Robert Lee; Amy Castellano; Joy Eckmann; Elaine Meade
Subject: RE: NMSA & The Gathering

Hi Adrienne

Thanks for the talking points to help clarify your thoughts on this idea of the gathering becoming a wing of the NMSA. I hear your points about having access to their resources but then we also become a link in their organizational framework which appears more bureacratic than the Gatherings. By becoming part of a larger organization much of the unique qualities of the Gathering could be lost. I also see the Gathering getting more organized each year and acquiring many of the resources you referred to. I believe the goal this year is to get some things in writing about the process of coordinating the event as well as important traditions and ceremonies we want to preserve. I think it's vital that the Gathering continue to be a distinct entity allowing it's continued evolution.

I would welcome the support of the NMSA in promoting the event but don't see why we have to be enveloped by the organization to be promoted by them. I also don't think we need their support to continue to have successful Gatherings.

take care
aimee



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From: Adrienne Stewart [mailto:a.St...@scnm.edu]

Sent: Fri 11/6/2009 2:11 PM
To: serron wilkie; nat...@googlegroups.com

Cc: Derek Andre; Kelly Hassberger; Heath McAllister; Jessica Anderson; Franklin William; Elana Gelman; N.D. Palka Kim; Katrina Stage; Kelsi Ervin; Saman Rezaie; Holcomb Joe; April Darley; Krystle Etri; Nicole Cain; Michelle Maddux; hhil...@bridgeport.edu; Cecily Schuler; Edwards Louise; Zeff Jared; K Peters; Gonzales 01 George L.; kates-chinoy sara; Deborah Epstein; Ilg Raynette; Leila Fosdick Turner; Ryan Robbins; Chase Adrien; Joshua Lloyd; Caitlin O'Connor; Robert McElroy; aabr...@gmail.com; sharon Woodard; Pilsbury Cima; Jacqui Villalobos; jackson cb; Nina Walsh; Schwartz Dini; Niki Young; Benita Perch; Erin Fitzgerald; Brooke McNeal; Melissa Gastellum; Edgar Cere; ill...@earthlink.net; Scott Brewster; Jamie Oskin; Michelle Marcoux; Krista McNicol; brent barlow; Baili Clarke; Michele Sayball; Aimee Huyck; Erika Enos; Colleen Goodwin; Jolene Hedges; Sarah Walker; Megan Golani; Erin Friedman; Renae Rogers; Robert Lee; Amy Castellano; Joy Eckmann; Elaine Meade
Subject: NMSA & The Gathering



Hello group!  A while back I mentioned NMSA & The Gathering but now I have more information for discussion.  Please read this (below) or open the attachment.  Hopefully everyone can talk about it this weekend!  =)       Sincerely, Adrienne Stewart

Ideas on NMSA helping The Gathering:

*       Not to "take over" the Gathering but to help assist the event
The aim would be to still have the organizing committee of the Gathering be independent but be "under the wing" of the NMSA so the                      NMSA can use its resources to help the event
*       To preserve the gathering as a student-run event
The gathering has traditionally been a student-run event. Having the gathering committee be under the wing of the NMSA will help ensure         that the organization of the following Gatherings can be assisted but will not be directed by non-students.
*       A central place to keep resources from past Gatherings
In the past, the Gatherings have been primarily organized by students at the school where the event has been held that year. The valuable knowledge and experience gained might not be passed on.  Having it be under the NMSA would have all the information in one place ensuring its consistency and availability to future organizing committees.
*       A philosophy chair member within NMSA to help the committee
The NMSA has the function of the Philosophy Chair, and a part of their  function could be to help the Gathering committee.
*       To help advertise and communicate with all schools (posters, website, access to listservs)
The NMSA has all the resources intact for advertizing and communicating to all the schools efficiently, which would save on resources.   This would also be updated from year to year.
*       To be a consistent organization for students and alumni to refer to or contact in the future
In the past, there have been funds left over after expenses have been paid for. Having assistance from an organization with a central infrastructure could ensure that the funds are used towards the organizing of the next year's Gathering or for functions such as providing scholarships/travel funds for students to come to the gatherings or any other functions the committee can see fit to have.