Planned medication activity throws an error for Effective time count for our test XML

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Sridevi

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Feb 13, 2017, 1:06:43 PM2/13/17
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Hello,

When we passed the test XML to the validator tool, below error was displayed

Message

The effectiveTime in a planned medication activity represents the time that the medication activity should occur. SHALL contain exactly one [1..1] effectiveTime (CONF:1098-30468).

Context

/ClinicalDocument[1]/component[1]/structuredBody[1]/component[8]/section[1]/entry[5]/substanceAdministration[1]

Test

count(cda:effectiveTime)=1


The snippet of effective time tags in Planned medication activity in the CDA displays as below

<effectiveTime xsi:type="IVL_TS">

               < low value="20170209000000" />

               < high nullFlavor="NI" />

             < /effectiveTime>

             < effectiveTime xsi:type="PIVL_TS" institutionSpecified="true" operator="A">

               < period value="1" unit="d" />

             < /effectiveTime>


Is this error a known error from the tool. From the HL7 site:

There was an errata published against base CCDA where a planned med wasn’t allowed to have a frequency (the 2nd <effectiveTime>) in order to allow it.Thus the document fails because there are 2, not just 1. It’s not looking at the precision of the value, just the count of elements.


Please let us know if this is a known error and if the tool will be updated to accept the xml and timeline if any to correct the tool.


Appreciate your help.


Regards,

Sridevi




McCaffrey, Andrew (Fed)

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Feb 13, 2017, 4:49:59 PM2/13/17
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Hi,

Thanks for pointing this out. Can you provide the link to the HL7
errata that the text is from?

Thanks,
-Andrew

On 02/13/2017 01:06 PM, Sridevi wrote:
> Hello,
>
> When we passed the test XML to the validator tool, below error was displayed
>
> Message
>
>
>
> The effectiveTime in a planned medication activity represents the time
> that the medication activity should occur. SHALL contain exactly one
> [1..1] effectiveTime (_CONF:1098-30468_ <conf:1098-30468>).
>
> Context
>
>
>
> /ClinicalDocument[1]/component[1]/structuredBody[1]/component[8]/section[1]/entry[5]/substanceAdministration[1]
>
> Test
>
>
>
> count(cda:effectiveTime)=1
>
>
> The snippet of effective time tags in Planned medication activity in the
> CDA displays as below
>
> <effectiveTimexsi:type="IVL_TS">
>
> < lowvalue="20170209000000"/>
>
> < highnullFlavor="NI"/>
>
> < /effectiveTime>
>
> <
> effectiveTimexsi:type="PIVL_TS"institutionSpecified="true"operator="A">
>
> < periodvalue="1"unit="d"/>
>
> < /effectiveTime>
>
>
> Is this error a known error from the tool. From the HL7 site:
>
> There was an errata published against base CCDA where a planned med
> wasn’t allowed to have a frequency (the 2nd <effectiveTime>) in order to
> allow it.Thus the document fails because there are 2, not just 1. It’s
> not looking at the precision of the value, just the count of elements.
>
>
> Please let us know if this is a known error and if the tool will be
> updated to accept the xml and timeline if any to correct the tool.
>
>
> Appreciate your help.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sridevi
>
>
>
>
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Sridevi

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McCaffrey, Andrew (Fed)

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Feb 15, 2017, 4:07:11 PM2/15/17
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Thanks. I've forwarded the concern and will be in touch about what will
happen with regard to the tooling.

-Andrew

On 02/14/2017 01:05 AM, Sridevi wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
>
> Here is the link:
> http://www.hl7.org/dstucomments/showdetail_comment.cfm?commentid=1045
>
> Thanks,
> Sridevi
>
>
> On Monday, February 13, 2017 at 11:36:43 PM UTC+5:30, Sridevi wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> When we passed the test XML to the validator tool, below error was
> displayed
>
> Message
>
>
>
> The effectiveTime in a planned medication activity represents the
> time that the medication activity should occur. SHALL contain
> exactly one [1..1] effectiveTime (_CONF:1098-30468_).
>
> Context
>
>
>
> /ClinicalDocument[1]/component[1]/structuredBody[1]/component[8]/section[1]/entry[5]/substanceAdministration[1]
>
> Test
>
>
>
> count(cda:effectiveTime)=1
>
>
> The snippet of effective time tags in Planned medication activity in
> the CDA displays as below
>
> <effectiveTimexsi:type="IVL_TS">
>
> < lowvalue="20170209000000"/>
>
> < highnullFlavor="NI"/>
>
> < /effectiveTime>
>
> <
> effectiveTimexsi:type="PIVL_TS"institutionSpecified="true"operator="A">
>
> < periodvalue="1"unit="d"/>
>
> < /effectiveTime>
>
>
> Is this error a known error from the tool. From the HL7 site:
>
> There was an errata published against base CCDA where a planned med
> wasn’t allowed to have a frequency (the 2nd <effectiveTime>) in
> order to allow it.Thus the document fails because there are 2, not
> just 1. It’s not looking at the precision of the value, just the
> count of elements.
>
>
> Please let us know if this is a known error and if the tool will be
> updated to accept the xml and timeline if any to correct the tool.
>
>
> Appreciate your help.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sridevi
>
>
>
>
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Sridevi

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Feb 28, 2017, 12:21:36 PM2/28/17
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Hi Andrew,

Is this error from the tool a known error? When will the tool be corrected?
This could have an impact for certification with 1.0, so please let us know if this is an acceptable error or when will the tool be corrected?

Thank you for your support.
Sridevi
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McCaffrey, Andrew (Fed)

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Mar 1, 2017, 11:40:02 AM3/1/17
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Hi,

This is still being discussed. I'll let you know when a decision has
been made.

Thanks,
-Andrew

On 02/28/2017 12:21 PM, Sridevi wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
>
> Is this error from the tool a known error? When will the tool be corrected?
> This could have an impact for certification with 1.0, so please let us
> know if this is an acceptable error or when will the tool be corrected?
>
> Thank you for your support.
> Sridevi
>
> On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 2:37:11 AM UTC+5:30, Andrew McCaffrey
> wrote:
>
> Thanks. I've forwarded the concern and will be in touch about what
> will
> happen with regard to the tooling.
>
> -Andrew
>
> On 02/14/2017 01:05 AM, Sridevi wrote:
> > Hi Andrew,
> >
> > Here is the link:
> >
> http://www.hl7.org/dstucomments/showdetail_comment.cfm?commentid=1045 <http://www.hl7.org/dstucomments/showdetail_comment.cfm?commentid=1045>
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McCaffrey, Andrew (Fed)

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Mar 2, 2017, 5:44:29 PM3/2/17
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Hi,

The tool will be updated to include the errata. I'll let the group know
when the update has taken place.

Thanks for bringing that to our attention.
-Andrew

Sridevi

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Mar 3, 2017, 6:54:43 AM3/3/17
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Thank you Andrew.

Regards,
Sridevi
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Timothy Bennett

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Mar 3, 2017, 9:24:37 AM3/3/17
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Andrew, as an ATL that needs to perform a certification test for this, how shall the ATL handle this error if it encounters it during testing before the errata has been incorporated into the tool's validation logic?

McCaffrey, Andrew (Fed)

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Mar 3, 2017, 11:32:38 AM3/3/17
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Hi,

I'll have to defer any questions on the certification to ONC.

-Andrew

On 03/03/2017 09:24 AM, Timothy Bennett wrote:
> Andrew, as an ATL that needs to perform a certification test for this,
> how shall the ATL handle this error if it encounters it during testing
> before the errata has been incorporated into the tool's validation logic?
>
> On Monday, February 13, 2017 at 12:06:43 PM UTC-6, Sridevi wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> When we passed the test XML to the validator tool, below error was
> displayed
>
> Message
>
>
>
> The effectiveTime in a planned medication activity represents the
> time that the medication activity should occur. SHALL contain
> exactly one [1..1] effectiveTime (_CONF:1098-30468_).
>
> Context
>
>
>
> /ClinicalDocument[1]/component[1]/structuredBody[1]/component[8]/section[1]/entry[5]/substanceAdministration[1]
>
> Test
>
>
>
> count(cda:effectiveTime)=1
>
>
> The snippet of effective time tags in Planned medication activity in
> the CDA displays as below
>
> <effectiveTimexsi:type="IVL_TS">
>
> < lowvalue="20170209000000"/>
>
> < highnullFlavor="NI"/>
>
> < /effectiveTime>
>
> <
> effectiveTimexsi:type="PIVL_TS"institutionSpecified="true"operator="A">
>
> < periodvalue="1"unit="d"/>
>
> < /effectiveTime>
>
>
> Is this error a known error from the tool. From the HL7 site:
>
> There was an errata published against base CCDA where a planned med
> wasn’t allowed to have a frequency (the 2nd <effectiveTime>) in
> order to allow it.Thus the document fails because there are 2, not
> just 1. It’s not looking at the precision of the value, just the
> count of elements.
>
>
> Please let us know if this is a known error and if the tool will be
> updated to accept the xml and timeline if any to correct the tool.
>
>
> Appreciate your help.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sridevi
>
>
>
>
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daniel...@hhs.gov

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Please see the updated Certification Companion Guide and Test Procedure related to this tool. I believe the updates there and to the tool are sufficient to consider this item resolved. If not, feel free to respond here. 

Regards, 

Dan Chaput (ONC)
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